New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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Cloud Wizard

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Thanks for the pointers CW. Even with the paper my wrap is still to tight to twist. Guess I should rethink my set up. Brian reminded me about the method of using the drill bit and pushing the wick in the coil. Think I should try that. My worry has always been wrapping to loose and getting that burnt hit of death. Will see how it works out once I need to change this set out. Once I do change it then your advice will help more so :toast:

Good advice from Brian. I never wrap on my wick anymore. I've also found that (at least for me) twisted wire shorts/hot spots a lot less (I use twisted 34awg KA-1 to get 1.8ohm-2.2ohm). And I've seen a bunch of methods that aren't oxidizing anymore, but I still do (at least 3x + quench and 3x juice burn). When you twist the coil on a tool (I have a Home Depot pick that is about the same size as the wick hole) you can do a clean resistance check without the wick installed. Helps me to see where I'm supposed to be. When I twist in the wick I'm Usually within ~0.3ohm of that baseline so I vape it till it settles in (and do a couple light burns with juice dripped straight on the coil).

Good luck dude.
 

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I just purchased a Wizards Apprentice and need to de-shine my did to match. Can anyone spell out what I need to buy and how to do it. I have satin mini ordered but the regular DID is exactly the same diameter as the wizard and looks awesome on it.
Take a look at post 4263. It might not match perfect. but will "satinize" (sp) it for sure.
 

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Striker, have a look at this. Screw out the wick, burn the coil, re insert the wick, your good to go. That said, the burn and cold tap water does good too. Oh, and sometimes a good dry burn and blow hard works too. (ok, I'm an old blowhard) :)

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Thanks for the pointers CW. Even with the paper my wrao pushing the wick in the coil. Think I should try that. My worry has always been wrapping to loose and getting that burnt hit of death. Will see how it works out once I need to change this set out. Once I do change it then your advice will help more so :toast:

Keep at it bud.

Provari provides the best vape with the DID on it IMHO, as much as I love my P+s... With the coil sticking to the wick, I do a dry burn and dunk the coil or stick it under the faucet to clear the gunk 2 or three times til the coil is cleaned up a bit. As for the E1 errors, it's shorting someplace... My wick is about 2.5mm so there is some space in the wick hole, when it's rubbing up against the whole diameter of the wick hole, there's that much of a higher chance that it'll ground out through the wick.

The E2 errors also indicate a short. If you know your coil is around 1.5 and your voltage is 4.2v, it's shorting out somewhere and you're surpassing the amp limit. I usually start at 3v and just sort out all the shorts and then bump the voltage up where it needs to be.

Don't sell the Provari, but definitely pick up a P+... sometimes if the Provari is pissing me off, I build it on the P+ (or any other mech device) and then move it over to the Provari after I work out the shorts.

Hope you get it going man, take care.
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Striker, Do not sell the Provari or you will be getting rid of perhaps the best and safest device to use the DID on. If you are constantly getting the E1 and E2 codes, it due to the Provari detecting that there is something wrong. Putting the DID on a device that lets you vape through those errors, is just masking the issue and could potentially lead to a hard short/spring collapse on the fully mechanical mods. Not something you want to happen. The safety features on the Provari are there for a reason.

Now, moving on to the "train the trainer section" of my post. I've learned so much about using the DID from your videos, but I've managed to glean some valuable information from others too. Wrapping the coil separately on a screw that is just slightly larger than the wick hole. Dry burn and test the wick on the DID to check ohms and then insert the quenched wick into it. This method has worked very well for me, and it highlighted any issues that may have crept up into my coil or wick process. If the coil tested ok, and I get E1 or E2 errors after inserting the wick, then that is where the problem lies, and I can take steps towards it, either by isolating it from the bottom or oxidizing it again and running it through the quenching/burning process. Doing this ensures that I eliminate any shorts etc that may take place.

As for separating the wick from the centre nuts, I just use a tooth-pick to break any gummed up sections between the coils and centre nuts. Since my coil was already in place, and does not shift any closer to the nuts, I have no fear of breaking the connective oxidized juice between the wick and nuts, or on the wick itself. :)

Hope this helps in some way. :)




I was ...... off at a Provari tonight for the first time in months of using one. All the problems are from using the DID. E1, & E2 codes out the .... I finally fixed the e1 code. But bumping the coil takes you to the menu and that is an annoyance in itself. As far as the e2 code goes I just keep having to turn it down till it is happy. I have some high drains that push 20 watts coming for the Orion though. So I think I would do good to get a precise + for the DID rather then keeping the Provari. I need more power and less aggravation.

Part of me says to keep it for when I leave with a carto tank or vision stone. Though it will be getting messed up then, and my Lava Tube works fine for that. Guess I need to give it some more time and see if the lava tube I just listed sells or not. I hope it does so I have no choice but to keep the Provari but for what it seems best for, is not what I vape with very much at all. Since I sold my V1 ProV I have changed my style and its sad but its just not fitting very well now.

I can say that it does push more power then the Lava Tube but it comes with a price. Cash, and more aggravation. How Did I fix the e1 code? The wire starts to stick to the mesh and burns into the oxidation after a day or two from the gunk on the coil. It may have just been a bad day but every sq mm of that wire needs to be bumped to make sure its not stuck. Even in the back of the mesh in the areas that its hard to get to.

What do you guys do when the wire sticks to the mesh? I thought about changing the wire out but is some att needed for the mesh? Maybe a soft tooth brush? In the past I would just change the wire out when it got a lot of build up on it. But that same thing happens to the mesh. Gunk all over it.
 

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I HAVE MY POST!!!! HALLELUJAH!

(oh and it looks SWEET in SS)

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I am doing happy dances all around my livingroom while vaping heavy on my DID!
And no i had not lost my coil building touch yet because 5 minutes after i kissed the postman i had put the DID back together and made a perfect 1.9 ohm coil with no hotspots! 1/3 of a tank empty already (yes starting to get a headrush!)

THANK YOU JIM! :toast:
 

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Thanks for the pointers CW. Even with the paper my wrap is still to tight to twist. Guess I should rethink my set up. Brian reminded me about the method of using the drill bit and pushing the wick in the coil. Think I should try that. My worry has always been wrapping to loose and getting that burnt hit of death. Will see how it works out once I need to change this set out. Once I do change it then your advice will help more so :toast:

What seems to work for me most of the time is just building the coil on the wick while its already in the DID. No paper trick or anything. If its too tight after everything is locked in, slowly work the wick counter to the direction its wrapped in so it doesn't snag, keep turning it. The grip from the coils will actually tighten it up some and eventually the wick will be able to freely rotate. Then you're good to go.

+1 on wrapping too loose. When I first started with mesh the concern was always avoiding shorts at all costs. Now its avoiding any areas where the coil is seeing air. The latter is the difference between a functioning wick without shorts and a perfect wick/coil that will never give you an off taste no matter how you hold your PV.

EDIT: You can actually gently pull and push the wick up and down while doing this to more evenly tighten it up. It doesn't take much!
 
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What seems to work for me most of the time is just building the coil on the wick while its already in the DID. No paper trick or anything. If its too tight after everything is locked in, slowly work the wick counter to the direction its wrapped in so it doesn't snag, keep turning it. The grip from the coils will actually tighten it up some and eventually the wick will be able to freely rotate. Then you're good to go.

+1 on wrapping too loose. When I first started with mesh the concern was always avoiding shorts at all costs. Now its avoiding any areas where the coil is seeing air. The latter is the difference between a functioning wick without shorts and a perfect wick/coil that will never give you an off taste no matter how you hold your PV.
That's brilliant Cyrus. That should give the coils even tension.
 

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I HAVE MY POST!!!! HALLELUJAH!

(oh and it looks SWEET in SS)

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I am doing happy dances all around my livingroom while vaping heavy on my DID!
And no i had not lost my coil building touch yet because 5 minutes after i kissed the postman i had put the DID back together and made a perfect 1.9 ohm coil with no hotspots! 1/3 of a tank empty already (yes starting to get a headrush!)

THANK YOU JIM! :toast:


That's awesome, glad you're back in the happy zone (but I'm jealous...). I woulda broke all my pins if I'd known that's what the replacements would like.
 

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I've also wrestled with the coil stuck to wick by gunk problem. With my juice, the coil seems to need cleaning every 2-3 days and if I remember to do it on day 2 I can still twist the wick out ok but if I forget or get lazy, the next day the coil is hopelessly stuck. I did find that the cigarette paper trick increases the gunk on my coil so I don't do that any more.

What I do to unstick the coil/wick is to take off the top nut and start loosening the stuck last coil wrap, then with a toothpick carefully pry the rest of the coils loose so you can twist out the wick, then dry burn the coil after attaching it to the post again.

Wick then goes back in; the coil needs a little tightening after all this but I've done it 3 times so far to the same coil and it's still working fine.
 

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Thanks for that, I hate through a ton of pages for answers. I can't wait for those to go up on the site!!!
the screws are also different. not on the site yet, hopefully I can add those to my mini shipment. (but I think Jim posted, mini 15th ish and SS 20th ish?)

edit: Jim posted on August 4 that SS parts will be available end of the week. hopefully site will be updated with the new parts when he gets back.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...enesis-type-atomizer-did-372.html#post6867858
 
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