New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

[wasabi5858]

6 wraps 32ga kanthal on a good size wick measuring at 1.4ohm seems too low... pull wick up a little bit? it is probably shorting somewhere.

I have had wicks that are wicking great but flavor was not as intense as I liked. I determine it seem to be too saturated and pinch the top slightly which greatly increase the flavor.

 

[overall]

To only have 1.4 ohms with a 6 wrap 32 awg on a fat which leads me to be fairly certain that you have a short going on. Should be having 2.5+ ohms with 6 wraps. It may be shorting on the body or bottom somewhere if you aren't seeing a hot spot. Once you figure out where your short is the flavor will be back for you.
I used to be a torch and quench fanatic until recently. Now I torch the flat piece of mesh with propane torch for a few seconds both sides. Then roll the wick making sure to fold over the long edge which will be in contact with the coil. I soak with juice and burn with lighter 2 or 3 times. No more torching or quenching. Then wrap the coil. Right now I am playing with low resistance so am using two twisted strands of 33 way 3/2 wrap to give me 0.8 to 1.0 ohm coil for my gifts. I can use on my provari as well but only at max 3.4 volts.

Hey folks been, reading this thread avidly for last couple of months, finally got to posting my newbie five to be able to post here.
I have been very impressed with the generosity and kindness of this thread's contributors, I already feel like I know you all quite well, It's been like watching a soap opera about the Golden (or silver) child that is the DID, Big respect to Jim also, who seems like the most caring father to all us DIDers.
I love my DID std, I have read all the set-up posts (yes all twenty seven million nine hundred and seven), watched all the videos and I'm very grateful for the info and wisdom, but I am still having flavor/taste strength issues. Great Vapor though and no bunt or metallic taste
I have a great stable coil (even 6 wrap 32g twisted kanthal 1.4Ohms no shorts or hotspots), great wick ( snug but not tight in the hole, 55m rolled with small center hole and large outer wall, ( rolled first part tight then second part larger, kind of like a dual wick small in large set-up, but all rolled in one piece.) well oxidized, quenched ( the quenching was the key for me, regards getting no shorts) bunt with e-liquid etc.
I am vaping "Vapeking" tobacco flavors , VK5, Royal BLEND, Virginia Flue cured.
I just can't seem to get the flavor strength from the DID I do from my 'Cotton wool pad wicked' CC Kanger 2.4ml SR.
I have read rave reviews on "great flavor,So intense, too intense,ROBUST with flavor.
I have read that too much flavor can equal no flavor & that cartos mute flavor so an over flavored juice comes through well, but in my Kanger cotton wool wick set-up ?
I have read thin wall wicks have better flavor, dual wicks have better flavor, more wraps have better flavor, more watts gets better flavor.
My head is spinning, and I feel I am a tenacious student
Have read that the position of the top brass nut will affect flavor, the higher, or closer to the mouthpiece hole
it is the more vapor, the lower on the post it is more flavor (too intense was mentioned, due to juice globule splatter into the mouth!)
I have read about members not using tobacco juices in their DID's but Scott (and others) seems happy with his RY4 or His other tobacco juice in the video.
I am not ready to put my DID aside for desert and fruit juices, which I'm not keen on yet.
I have read that people get "great" flavor with the Line by Van, and wondered if the smaller chamber or more direct airflow from the wick to the mouthpiece are the answer, but I keep hearing how great the flavor is on the DID and am feeling like I MUST be missing out
I love tinkering,and love the DID, but I am putting my life on hold to get this thing sorted, and there seems no end in sight.
Please help.

 

[IraSurefire]

You just have to work it out for yourself. Technical information will only take you so far. I have been vaping for a year now and for me the DID is the best means of juice delivery I have found. That doesn't mean it will be your best. As much as many are glad to be rid of cartos that might not be the case for everyone. There is a time and place for different delivery systems. Find the thing or combination of things that work for you and roll with it.

 

[evilfrog]

Well first off I can tell you your coil is not right. 6 wraps should be about 3 ohms. 1.4 ohms is more like a 3 wrap coil. This is probably due to poor oxidation of the wick. It might also be cause by the wick touching the center post or the top cap when the cap is on, or you just have a bad spot on the coil that needs adjusting. Try giving the wick a half turn inside the coil.
If the flavor is not better then a carto then I'm afraid it needs more work. I suggest trying some of the methods in this thread (check the index linked from the first post).

I have a great stable coil (even 6 wrap 32g twisted kanthal 1.4Ohms no shorts or hotspots), great wick ( snug but not tight in the hole, 55m rolled with small center hole and large outer wall, ( rolled first part tight then second part larger, kind of like a dual wick small in large set-up, but all rolled in one piece.) well oxidized, quenched ( the quenching was the key for me, regards getting no shorts) bunt with e-liquid etc.

Please help.

Quenching is to stiffen the wick so that when you coil it you don't strangle it - I'm not positive it actually helps in the oxidizing process, but I could certainly be wrong.
I wouldn't mess around with weird wicks like double wicks or extra fat (or thin) wicks or twisted coils until you get a basic wick working well. Just keep working on basic 4 wrap coils on mesh somewhere between 20 and 40mm until the ohms come out to something close to 2Ohms.
It really is worth it once you get it going right, so please don't give up!! I'm sure people better at helping then me will be along shortly

 

[evilfrog]

I used to be a torch and quench fanatic until recently. Now I torch the flat piece of mesh with propane torch for a few seconds both sides. Then roll the wick making sure to fold over the long edge which will be in contact with the coil. I soak with juice and burn with lighter 2 or 3 times. No more torching or quenching. Then wrap the coil. Right now I am playing with low resistance so am using two twisted strands of 33 way 3/2 wrap to give me 0.8 to 1.0 ohm coil for my gifts. I can use on my provari as well but only at max 3.4 volts.

I find even the liquid soak and burn unnecessary. Just Jack Frost and coil.

 

[studiovap]

Thank-you for all the replies,
I thought I mentioned my coil was 6 wrap 32g "TWISTED", as in double the wire on the coil. I have Made many single strand, untwisted 5 wrap coils that came in at 2.4 Ohms,also tried 4 & 3 wrap. I have had burning taste, hotspots and shorting in the beginning, but have got past those issues.
I have tried ALL reported methods of wick oxidization, and have found what works for me at the moment I think, but I always give any new suggestions a go.
I always pull my wick ~1mm up off the bottom of the tank and know that is not the issue.
Does anyone with a DID mini & a DID std notice any flavor strength difference?

 

[chieftechnicalwizard]

Order placed

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[barqs]

is there a way to bookmark these threads as u go away for a bit and damn there is just too much to get through. I just found out that some one the gemini!!

 

[nosferatu2412]

Its the Omega.

 

[nosferatu2412]

What mod is that?

Its the Omega.

 

[icucme2]

ETA for the serial number caps ??

Thanks to u denali, i found this thread....

 

[icucme2]

Im thinking about going for the "short DID" because i have the big provari. Is the only difference is its size? Or has anyone had a provlem with the shorter version?? Do u go thru 3mls of juice fast with the DID?? Im going to be pulling the triggr very soon, just want some info

 

[Bizrad8381]

is there a way to bookmark these threads as u go away for a bit and damn there is just too much to get through. I just found out that some one the gemini!!

Then you can go to settings at the top and if there is any new activity it will show there.

 

[dspin]

That's what I've been using until I can get some Shark Hide that dpsin recommended I try. Works pretty well, got the scuffs out of my other tubes/attys, and shined them right up! Take quite a bit of elbow grease, but well worth it. Now I don't want to touch any of the things I polished

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Looks good Ty, but sharkhide rules - you will see.

 

[emonty]

I know I have seen it somewhere: There is a vendor who can change the finish to satin etc...but I forgot the name, appreciated if you have it, thxs!

 

[dspin]

My wick is touching bottom of tank and I have no problem.

This is true, as long as wick is properly oxidized it can touch bottom of tank and sides of wick hole.

 

[dspin]

I'd say try diff setups till you find what you like. I use 100 vg or 70 vg and 400 mesh. I like the taste of that best. I dont care for 325 - yes I can tell the difference. I also use a thick walled mesh as you call it. We are all diff in our tastes - not one setup is better than another if you like a particular one best.

Hey guys, I have a question about ss mesh in general, so here goes:

say I use ~50/50 pg/vg, and i want it to wick best way possible (without flipping the tank)
Whats best: Thick walled (many layers of ss mesh) or a thin walled with a wide hole, or a thin walled with a thin hole?

I cant seem to find any information about this anywhere

edit: also what would wick the liquid upwards best: 325 or 400 mesh?

 

[dspin]

Read this. I tried his method on my 400 mesh. Wicks fantastic now. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/330407-500-ss-mesh.html

Hey thanks Jimi - up until now I had not heard about 500 mesh - Thats for me for sure. I can taste it now 500 mesh with THICK wick. 100 VG

 

[dspin]

And the winner for the Gemini is............................
1142 and that means plerskine
GOOD VAPES TO YOU Plerskine!





Congrats Pler

 

[dspin]

Congrats to the winner, and thank you for the contest Jim. I scored a Short Mode last night and ordered the SS nuts and thumbscrews to upgrade mine without needing tools to tote around.

I'll be hitting this thread up once it comes in. Even though I've had a Line for a month, I was never able to perfect my wick/coil setup due to hotspots and burning. I have no doubt that with the easier to use DID, I won't have those issues being able to secure the wire, not wrapping around a silver wire.

Congrats L7D, no comparison with DID and Line. My 2 Lines were sold soon after receiving them, just sayin.