New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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shoutdawg

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Congrats to all the new DID owners!!!

I have another question concerning batteries. How do I charge those itty bitty 18350's in my Pila charger? It came with 2 extender thingies, which I was able to use on the 18490's, but for the life of me, I can't make the littler guys stay in place long enough to close the lid. One extender is too short, so I tried 2 in a row, and now it pops the battery out. Any tips? Thanks!
(oh, and I assume that the flat edge goes against the negative post, which leaves the pointy edge to go against the battery, and then the battery nibble goes against the positive terminal up by the flashing red lights).

I use the 32mm spacers from here on my Pila charger: Battery Spacers (15/32mm) - Sleeves & Spacers - OVEREADY Flashlights/Torches - Control The Dark. These spacers are roughly the size of an 18350 battery and no screwing in is required.

In a bind, I think you can use a stack of quarters, nickels or dimes to make up the space difference.
 

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I don't see why not. As long as it is specc'd for 3.7v batts it should work fine.

I use the spacers from Super T Manufacturing in my Pila (scroll almost to the end of the page)
Super T Manufacturing, Innovative manufacturer of electronic cigarette products.

Aluminum Spacer
xtar WP6 Extra Spacers
-Works with WF-139 and PILA chargers to accept 16340 and 18350 size batteries
-Size: 15mm
$1.99 (each)
Great! Got them in, fit like a TEE.
Mine's a Trustfire TR-001

Thanks for the help guys! I'll go to superT and ebay both to prepare for the pila. (really like the pila, don't yet have an xTar)
 

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Most mechanical mods have a "hot spring". This means that the spring will collapse when hit with heat from the battery if there's a short. When it collapses, it removes the battery from the connection, so that it can no longer power your device. When this happens, you have to buy a new hot spring for your mod and replace it, and the atomizer or battery that caused the short, and you're good to go. A fuse will protect your spring. :) A ShortStop fuse is resettable, the 2cent one isn't. I bought the shortstop reusable fuse so that I don't have to buy a shipload of springs for my mods... I'm still a coil newbie, even though it seems like old hat already. I would recommend a fuse, the ShortStop in particular, just to save yourself the headache of having to replace a spring in your favorite mod.

Thanks Uma, I see.

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Tiger is back. Only 9 days to get my parts. Thanks Jim.
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Jim's customer service is amazing. Simply respond to the link in your order confirmation email and they'll get back to you quickly.

Yes, that is what I am saying, I had a issue with delivery, and with in hours I got a email and a PM from him and he is taking care of it. That is the beauty of working with Jim D and buying a real DID.. I will continue to purchase products from Him..

I just wanted to make a statement.. That the man Stands behind his product!!!! YOu don't see to many other places doing that..

MOK.. ;)
 

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Might also want to check that your wick is not touching bottom or center post. Some shorts (also to inside wick hole) can't be seen and don't show as hot spots. If it doesn't go away after a 1 tank break-in period, you could twist the wick out and torch it especially around where it may touch inside the the wick hole (there's a nic pic tutorial posted earlier today).

I have checked that and I am not touching any of the other parts in there. It could possibly be shorting near the wick hole.


Congratulations. Did you torch the mesh BEFORE you roll? If not, you may need a tank full of "break-in" period.

I did Jackfrost my wick before I started working wrapping my coil I also did a few juice burns to get a good layer of carbon on the wick prior to dropping it in. I may pick up some rolling paper tomorrow while I am out and try that out as well.


You're getting some sound advice on possible solutions. It may also be some residual machining oil that did not quite wash away with water. I always give my new DIDs a nice vodka bath to eliminate this possibility.

I did some pretty thorough washing so I am 100% sure that is not it either.

Thank you guys for all the help I would have to say this is one of the most comprehensive threads on ECF you guys rock!
 

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110mm? I'm assuming that's an almost solid wick for the 3.5mm standard/shortie?

Actually it still has a hole - I think more could be used(150mm or more, maybe). In theory (BJ43's theory) more mesh = better wicking. I get no dry hits and pay no attention to the angle of my device - and I chain vape for significant periods. I've only run a couple tankfuls through this mesh, but so far it's the best wick I've tried. I've been testing this at 5.6 volts to see if it dry hits.

And yes, this is on a standard DID.
 

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late but since I took the pic already

here are 2 different kind of spacer I have for pila

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I like the bigger one better, no need to screw in so quicker to work with. I believe that is from super t and the skinny one that require screw in is from provapte.
Aha! I was supposed to screw the top one in. :facepalm: Got it to fit now. A picture is worth a thousand words. Thanks Wasabi!!!
Which way do we aim the 2nd spacer thingie? With the screw facing the other spacer thingie, or with the screw end facing the battery?
 
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GP Paps has these hot springs? I do not understand, if there is a short in my DID the hot spring will collapse?
Any atty can short, any atty can hard short enough to cause a collapsed spring. If the mod has magnet button instead of spring button, then it's different. There is no connection unless the button is pushed, which means that as long as you feel the short when it shorts and let off the button, then you should be okay. (I think that's correctly remembered, but hang around for more knowledgeable replies ok).
 

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<---- Avatar can be seen now. :) The surprise is here, my Roller came in today!!!! Both sized DID's look great on it, and it's such a perfect fit for me. The button is the best I've used ever, and it's just perfect with the DID's. My avatar is a closeup pic of the pic OuttadaDark sent to show me what the inscription that Manos the Atmizoo guy came up with to surprise me. I wasn't supposed to see it... lol, but God Bless OuttadaDark, it's been taunting me for ages now. (and JIM!!! Jim saw my special made Mod and teased me too!!! Everyone got to see but me lol). I'm probably not explaining coherently, I'm too excited. I'll end my jarble with huge HUGE Thank you to both OuttadaDark and Manos for gracing me with such a beautiful gift. I will carry the PFF torch and bless someone, somewhere, somehow, someway with a PFF gift too. I love you guys.
 

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Yes it is, but this is a great option if you're on the go or don't necessarily have a torch on hand.

Actually, coil is not the problem. Wick is the one delivering e-juice to be vaporized. When wick is gunked up, especially between layers, that is where the problem is at. I would at least use a lighter if I don't have a torch with me. It would be slow though. This reminded me of those horrible "Dry Burn" glass fiber days turning the wick to pure white again.
 

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Actually, coil is not the problem. Wick is the one delivering e-juice to be vaporized. When wick is gunked up, especially between layers, that is where the problem is at. I would at least use a lighter if I don't have a torch with me. It would be slow though. This reminded me of those horrible "Dry Burn" glass fiber days turning the wick to pure white again.

Very true, though the wire is still the heat delivery system, and while a gunked up wick will still get juice to the coil, a gunked up coil won't deliver enough heat to that juice. Since i've been away, i've been doing just as you suggested, burning my wicks with a lighter and then dry burning my coil with no wick in it, and i've had pretty good results so far, though not quite as good as if I'd torched the wick and just recoiled it.
 

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There is a thin metal rod spacer for 18350 that screws into the top near the flashy Leds then into the big black nut spacer used for 18490. I got mine from provape when i bought my Pila. Ive heard pennies can work in a pinch. I'm away from my charger but can pm you a pic of what it looks like later.

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Ah didnt scroll before postin. My spacer is just like one on right in pic a few posts up. Have had no problem with batt fitting or staying down
 
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On a bad coil day I have resorted to using silica. Taste was great. I have ordered some ceramic wick and will be trying that. One of the beauties of a DID is the versatility.
Happy too with the DID ver here
Couldn't oxidize the wick...out of gaz.
So I took some 2mm silica, pulled it from the inside up, wrapped some coils around it and attached the ends to the +&-

2.0 Ohm, so one coil less will do later.
No complaints, no stress...just vapes brilliant!

I know, for Genisis-purists this must sound like horror :facepalm:
But for others, looking for something better though turning away because of the wick-trouble,
this could very well be the best step to getting comfortable with rebuilding.
I only did one recoil on a ViNo before, I can tell you, that's a lot more hassle than with the DID.
After only an hour of fiddling and finding tricks, I can now do a new wick and coil in 3 minutes.
Only backup I need now is a piece of silica and some wire...travel light ;)

Of course, I heard you...the taste with a ss-wick is even better...
Well lucky me :)
Another upgrade in quality awaits me in the near future and I don't even need another device for it. :2cool:
 

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Screw should be screwed into the first spacer.
Aha! I was supposed to screw the top one in. :facepalm: Got it to fit now. A picture is worth a thousand words. Thanks Wasabi!!!
Which way do we aim the 2nd spacer thingie? With the screw facing the other spacer thingie, or with the screw end facing the battery?
 
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