New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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That's a 2.5mm OD tube. I want to wrap unoxidized #500 around the outside and have the insides sealed. That way you could have all different resistance "tubes" and swap them out really fast and easy. I also think the coil would last a lot longer if it never gets wet.

I think it would also work better to have a 2.51mm hole in the tank base to insert the (-) end with some tension. I lost 0.2-0.4ohms from baseline and could get it back by applying downward pressure on the tube so assuming it was from contact pressure at the bottom.

Two things occur to me.
1. Why have such a long tube?(the wick below the tube will support itself, will it not?)
2. If you had a shorter tube you could bring the wire back up to the top plate and clamp it with the ground screw or wedge it in the wick hole.
just my :2c:

Good to see you are working on this CW, will keep my eyes open for your results.
 

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You would only need the bottom sealed wouldn't you? How about wax. If you get the plain old candles drip a drop or 2 in there. Or you could do a clay. I think the brand is fimo not toxic oven cure. I used to make all kinds of crap with that stuff when I was a young in. Interested to see if the mesh can wick enough. I actually have a tiny coil rolled for exactly the same purpose, I rolled 30awg around a needle. Need to add the NR. Can you solder the joint by melting the silver?
It's not completed yet, but here's my first protoype of a pyrex encapsulated coil on a Standard DID (let me know if the link doesn't work): http://s1341.photobucket.com/albums/o750/Cloud_Wizard/Pyrex and Coil/?albumview=slideshow

Anyone know what I can use to sell the ends? I was going to melt in some silver NR wire, but it would take about 10 feet per end (I melted a few inches of 32awg 0.999 pure Silver down it it all but disappeared...)
 

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Two things occur to me.
1. Why have such a long tube?(the wick below the tube will support itself, will it not?)
2. If you had a shorter tube you could bring the wire back up to the top plate and clamp it with the ground screw or wedge it in the wick hole.
just my :2c:

Good to see you are working on this CW, will keep my eyes open for your results.

I believe the wick is going to wrap around the glass and not in it. The NR wire would have to be fed through the mesh somehow if he shortened the tube. In his current model it is using the bottom of the tank for the ground.
 

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Wow, lot's of interest and good questions/suggestions.

Two things occur to me.
1. Why have such a long tube?(the wick below the tube will support itself, will it not?)
2. If you had a shorter tube you could bring the wire back up to the top plate and clamp it with the ground screw or wedge it in the wick hole.
just my :2c:

Good to see you are working on this CW, will keep my eyes open for your results.

1. I am using the bottom of the tank as a ground.
2. I am going to wrap the outside with SS mesh for an unoxidized wick. The original idea from Scubatadan was trying to eliminate oxidation and be easy to replace.


You would only need the bottom sealed wouldn't you? How about wax. If you get the plain old candles drip a drop or 2 in there. Or you could do a clay. I think the brand is fimo not toxic oven cure. I used to make all kinds of crap with that stuff when I was a young in. Interested to see if the mesh can wick enough. I actually have a tiny coil rolled for exactly the same purpose, I rolled 30awg around a needle. Need to add the NR. Can you solder the joint by melting the silver?

I could seal just the bottom for now but one issue folks are having with the wick inside glass tube is horrendous burnt tastes when condensation gets to the exposed coil. I wanted to encapsulate the coil so that it is completely isolated from all current issue causes (but of course I'm probably just introducing new ones...). I would love to figure out how they make the "Ready Wires" for ODY/Pene. I tried to solder some silver onto Kanthal and it always comes back off :( If you figure that one out let me know as I have a terrible time with the twisting method (but always seem to get it eventually)

Why not just heat up the tube with your torch and then pinch the molten glass together? You'll need to get it pretty damn hot, but it's doable.

I tried on a couple test pieces and granted my torching skills are more geared towards BBQ, bondfires and fireworks but every time I tried the melted glass also severed the NR wires. I may try Nickel NR wire to see if it is a higher melting point instead of silver.

I believe the wick is going to wrap around the glass and not in it. The NR wire would have to be fed through the mesh somehow if he shortened the tube. In his current model it is using the bottom of the tank for the ground.

Yep, haven't figured out hoe to get the bottom wire back up to the top without touching mesh. I may try pulling it up through the fill hole instead but this was easier for prototyping.

If you seal in the coil completely I would think there would be pressure build up generated by the glowing coil producing heat and expansion/contraction of the coil. I think over time this would weaken the glass tube.

I though about this too. I could make a vacumm chamber out of a large pickle jar and a shop vac. It would be a pain ot the "a" to work that way but I think if the top was already sealed I could pretty easily stage a drop of goo to seal the bottom (in the jar) with a shish-ma-bob stick through the top. I think I may be able to create a little vacumm by simply heating the glass when I seal the second end. That way any internal air would already be at least partially expanded so may reduce any risk of it popping later.

Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I have no idea where this'll go. Really hoping someone with glass/manufacturing skills/capabilities will do the fully embedded version. Would be really cool to simply have a 1mm rod with a coil in it and just wrap mesh and go.
 

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Denture cleaning tablets work a treat. I use equate version of the polident 3 minute soak. Put 1 tablet in 4 oz water leave for 10 minutes or so and voila shiny clean.

Learn something new every day I always say. Yup. There's my new for the day. Now, where is that pharmacy? :)

LOL Yankeebobo, that was precisely what I was thinking!


I've been thinking about buying an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner, to pop my dids into for a clean. Opinions? Do these work? Like the idea of denture tablets.

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I have an ultrasonic cleaner and my DID gets taken apart about once a month for a nice bath in there.
My glasses I put in there once a week, and my drip tips get a bath once a week too since I use a clean one every day to keep things nice and clean, I mean I wash my coffee mug every day too....
I love the sonic cleaner, I may now try and combine the denture tablets with the sonic cleaner ;-) I mean how bad can those tablets be when their purpose is to clean something that is in your mouth all day?

On a different note though, my SS nuts have never gone black... so I am wondering what that is all about.
 

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Interesting idea Cloud. I like your overall concept. I question weather or not you will have enough mesh material to wick well enough. If my math is right you will only be able to wrap the tube 6 times max before you exceed 3.5mm OD. But then again, maybe by the fact the mesh is up against the tube it might help the capillary action. idk.

Do you have any silicon plugs kicking around that you could use to cap off the ends? Also, what if you used something like a needle instead of the actual wire when you heat/melt the glass and pinch shut. Perhaps a slightly over sized hole would allow internal gases expand and vent and yet still prevent condensation from entering the coil chamber?
 

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Thx Vapspaz.

I think 5-6 wraps of #500 should wick. If not I can go to a 2mm tube (the coil would fit).

I may try the needle thing if I can't figure out how to solder. Someone also suggested heating a blob of Silver solder and then smushing the end of the heated tube into it. I also thought about the silicone plug thing, maybe some carto condum or a chunk out of a silicone cookie sheet (think she'd notice?).

Plenty of room for improvements and learning, keep the ideas flowing.
 

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I know I shouldn't post this but it just gets me so mad! Here is a thread titled http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...54372-genisis-atty-did-5-4-wrap-6-7-wrap.html The person is using a DUD, CHID, call it whatever but DON'T call it a DID! I know, I know, leave it alone ........... I just get so .......:mad::mad::mad:
I feel the same way. haha, in fact, I just finished ripping someone a new one the other day (on a different forum) for doing the same thing. Ridiculous!

Denture cleaning tablets work a treat. I use equate version of the polident 3 minute soak. Put 1 tablet in 4 oz water leave for 10 minutes or so and voila shiny clean.
Nice tip! As is the Baking Soda and Vinegar tip. Just like Bobo, I learn something new every day. Love it!

LOL Yankeebobo, that was precisely what I was thinking!

I have an ultrasonic cleaner and my DID gets taken apart about once a month for a nice bath in there.
My glasses I put in there once a week, and my drip tips get a bath once a week too since I use a clean one every day to keep things nice and clean, I mean I wash my coffee mug every day too....
I love the sonic cleaner, I may now try and combine the denture tablets with the sonic cleaner ;-) I mean how bad can those tablets be when their purpose is to clean something that is in your mouth all day?

On a different note though, my SS nuts have never gone black... so I am wondering what that is all about.
I have so got to get me one of those UltraSonic cleaner thingies. and Polident!
I do have the baking soda and vinegar, but my oven would never know that lol.
 

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It's not completed yet, but here's my first protoype of a pyrex encapsulated coil on a Standard DID (let me know if the link doesn't work): http://s1341.photobucket.com/albums/o750/Cloud_Wizard/Pyrex and Coil/?albumview=slideshow

Anyone know what I can use to sell the ends? I was going to melt in some silver NR wire, but it would take about 10 feet per end (I melted a few inches of 32awg 0.999 pure Silver down it it all but disappeared...)
This is so exciting! You da man, CW!!
I had to stop reading that thread, I'm nowhere smart enough to know a bad no no from a so so no no and let's just say, it's best I stay away for my own good. I truely admire you adventurous souls!
 

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Sweet! Added mine, and hope to add more soon.

I'm not sure, but I think post #17 was skipped? Can someone fix?

Not enough bright light for much solar energy today, have to shut down as soon as the phone is charged. :(

Hey Jim, are there any 28mm Atty's in the works? :)
 
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