New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

[grabeard]

Same ohms, well almost, mine is 2.3 but who's countimg.

For full disclosure. I used a replica. The measurements shown will probably be a little off from the 2.2 ohm coil I am currently using. I'll swap them when my tank runs out and measure the differences.

I do love it. I'm such a geek.

 

[Lazerrred]

Since I'm still waiting on mine I have a few questions:

1)Is there any reason most of the pictures I have seen of everybody's setup the wick is much smaller than the one Jim uses in his "setup video".Just because it's easier or has some taste/less likely to "short"?

2)Who is using the "nuts" instead of just wrapping wire on the post?Why?

3)Who is using a wick made by one of the non-standard methods(other than heating/quenching/heating/quenching etc..).Benefits other than easier?

Me thinks there is no magic "perfect" combination other than the one that works for you. Hopefully with our playing around with set ups you can get you somewhere in the ballpark and you can tweak it to your own taste and juices from there.
(Maybe we all are a little like Darryll and like to geek it around some and have fun with it.)

 

[c623cc]

Out of sheer boredom(and the facts kids and wife driving me crazy) I decided to go back and read the entire forum thread to catch up on stuff that I had missed since it's inception.After that accomplishment I did "learn" a few things(other than my eyes are getting worse lol)and have to be thankful for buying another product that has such a large following and knowledgeable support system including the company's owner/designer.I will probably be buying another DID very shortly after this one arrives because the wife has been eyeing the videos and pictures in passing saying she likes how it looks.I was already going to order the short mode and a clear tank but,guess I will wait and see if she likes mine and wants one(of course she will $$$).

 

[Lazerrred]

Same ohms, well almost, mine is 2.3 but who's countimg.

It will probably change a little as it seasons a bit & usually nobody's count is ever the same.

 

[fuzzione]

Out of sheer boredom(and the facts kids and wife driving me crazy) I decided to go back and read the entire forum thread to catch up on stuff that I had missed since it's inception.After that accomplishment I did "learn" a few things(other than my eyes are getting worse lol)and have to be thankful for buying another product that has such a large following and knowledgeable support system including the company's owner/designer.I will probably be buying another DID very shortly after this one arrives because the wife has been eyeing the videos and pictures in passing saying she likes how it looks.I was already going to order the short mode and a clear tank but,guess I will wait and see if she likes mine and wants one(of course she will $$$).

Consider yourself lucky.
When you buy vape gear your wife wants the same.
When I buy vape gear my wife wants jewellery.

 

[johnsnhu]

Just made a new coil and mesh:

1. Oxidized Mesh before rolling. (20mm)
2. Torched kanthal 32
3. Wrapped coil around thread of screw from computer case. (4 wraps)
4. Rolled mesh, and inserted into coil for a snug but not tight fit

You all should know the rest...

What I got: 2.4ohm coil, no hot spots or shorts and vaping like a steam engine. Flavor is coming along after 1/4 tank of juice.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

 

[tybin]

well i have lots of loose gemstones if you need to get more vape gear

Consider yourself lucky.
When you buy vape gear your wife wants the same.
When I buy vape gear my wife wants jewellery.

 

[shrabela]

I still seem to be getting a hot spot and only the top coils heating up. What am I doing wrong?

 

[KickServe]

I still seem to be getting a hot spot and only the top coils heating up. What am I doing wrong?

When I do get a hot spot that's the location. Is this something to do with the bottom of the wick causing a short? May be one of the genisis gurus can shed some light for us noobs.

 

[Dougiestyle]

I'm no guru, but it's been my observation that you can follow the hotspot from the top down to where the glow dissippates and you'll more than likely find the coil is touching the wick. It's probably a short. It can be remedied by adjusting the wick until it's alleviated. I hope this helps!

 

[elfstone]

I still haven't had a chance to build my DID!!! I'll do it this weekend!

Silly question - the mesh strips that Jim sends, are they supposed to make one wick each?! Or more like two? They seem awfully large.

 

[Tarkvemada]

I already made 4 wicks from each piece. I'd probably made even 5. I like to have easy and quick access to backup.. I made totally 12 wicks and keep it in the plastic bag with some PG.

 

[dspin]

I make two with each strip - Tark makes more - so do whatever you like the best

 

[dspin]

Since I'm still waiting on mine I have a few questions:

1)Is there any reason most of the pictures I have seen of everybody's setup the wick is much smaller than the one Jim uses in his "setup video".Just because it's easier or has some taste/less likely to "short"?

2)Who is using the "nuts" instead of just wrapping wire on the post?Why?

3)Who is using a wick made by one of the non-standard methods(other than heating/quenching/heating/quenching etc..).Benefits other than easier?

1. My wick is cut off at top of screw post

2. I use both nuts to securely hold the wire. I do not like wrapping a wire around a post - reminds me of the Line - that never was properly secured IMO

3. I torch the mesh on both sides before rolling. After rolled I torch it two more times. When I say torch - its torch , not a cigarette lighter nor a stove. If you can afford a DID you can afford proper equip. After torching I put vg on mesh and light it on fire w/a lighter - I do this twice. No quenching going on here. Then I wrap the coil. I light the wire first till red w.cigarette lighter. The mesh is folded a bit on one side - the other side is rolled towards the folded side using a paper clip.

Mesh is installed w/paper clip in DID, then wire is wrapped.

I do this so when I install there are no problems and it works the first time. I dont have time to fiddle with shorts.


ALSO - people are worrying about OHMS - I never ohm my coils - makes no sense. You either like 3, 4, 5 or 6 wraps @ 3.7 as standard - who cares what the ohms are - its all about flavor and vapor

 

[dspin]

That's awesome! Is there enough space on the top cap to drill another wick hole? Thinking of getting an extra to experiment with using the filler hole screw as another terminal and dual coiling.

Make sure thats what you want. I would use DID for awhile before doing that. Lot of people try that with the Orion and find its not that great or just a PIA.

On top of that - make sure you have 5 holes. Not four - you still will need an air/filler hole


IMO - By the time you get done drilling and fiddling around - you will wonder why you did that.

 

[dspin]

Jim, what to use to isolate the wick from the hole in the atomizer to prevent it from shorting (like in a Zenisis)?
Are you going to sell this on your site?

It wont short if properly oxidized

 

[dspin]

Here's my baby!

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Beautiful pic Jasz, looks great

 

[dspin]

30mm mesh seems to be my sweet spot.

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I'm with you - I love the 30g w/5 wraps the best - airhole drilled out to 1.6 mm - My other DID I use 32G - 3 wraps - stock airhole - thats great too.

I did increase the flavor abit today on the 5/wrap by using a large Glass drip tip. That improves flavor a bit also. I'm told that you will still get a bit of metal flavor or plastic flav in other drip tips - even if you dont know it. When using glass - purer flavor comes out - since glass does not impart any flavor.

 

[outadadark]

I still seem to be getting a hot spot and only the top coils heating up. What am I doing wrong?

When I do get a hot spot that's the location. Is this something to do with the bottom of the wick causing a short? May be one of the genisis gurus can shed some light for us noobs.

I'm no guru, but it's been my observation that you can follow the hotspot from the top down to where the glow dissippates and you'll more than likely find the coil is touching the wick. It's probably a short. It can be remedied by adjusting the wick until it's alleviated. I hope this helps!

Exactly correct!!

If you pull your wick out and click your fire button, the whole coil should glow, ie no shorts.

If you reinsert your wick, wherever your coil stops glowing along the wick, it's going to negative (or glowing from the bottom up, but not to the top, it's going to positive), ie a short !!

Oxidise, reoxidise, reoxidise to clear your shorts ( , it's what I do and it works for me.

There has been a method using an unoxidised wick posted, that DOES appear to work for some. I don't understand how this works, but hey, if it works for you......

Interesting reading: The Genesis Revolution
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/newq/2811-genesis-revolution.html

..... excerpts.....

- These atties are not user friendly. Getting proficient with rebuilding this style of atomizer takes time and experience. Users must know their devices, their principles and be willing to attempt to fiddle with their atties when rebuilt for the first time.

- Lacking availability. Most genesis style atties are difficult to get. The demand is high for this new style of atomizer and they are increasingly difficult to get as more and more users become aware of the style of device. Want no more, the DID is readily available !!!

The atty does present a unique advantage in that if ever there was a shortage of atomizer or cartomizers ......... genesis users would enjoy not being bothered by the lack of equipment.

 

[Tarkvemada]

Glass and ceramic drip tips is a good idea.. I use ceramic.