New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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Not being in the same league with you guys experience-wise, seems to me when the cap is off the vapor is magnified enormously by direct air flow across the coil. I'd speculate that it's not a pressure issue as much as a change in either boiling point or even air/vapor ratio causing expansion (e.g. thermodynamic flow from warm to colder). Might be very effective to simply drill additional small holes vertically where the existing hole is to cause additional laminar flow across a greater surface area of the coil. Just a hunch.

Who needs ecig experience when you clearly have some academic background in physics! I've played around with the same idea in my head a little, but I wouldn't be able to articulate the science behind it half as well as you did, so thank you for giving me some topics to further research :D I'm definitely going to explore your idead along with a few others brought up today.

I must say, it's pretty funnyy that mwa and I have such strong opinions on a topic that has virtually zero tangible test results in the context of PVs to make any comparisons based off! Time to break out our drills and mangle a few caps!
 

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Just saying this is Jims thread, and the DID as is is just fine as is.
If your want to have "your" discussion, open another thread for discussion. Or maybe disappear until you have your own genny atty's or whatever mods & accessories that are MWA designed . That's all.

Come on now, that's not necessary. Lets play nice guys...
No1 ever said the DID wasn't great as is, we're merely discussing ways in which we could improve upon particular aspects of its performance. I can guarantee that what was said here isn't going to hurt Jim's feelings!
 

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Who needs ecig experience when you clearly have some academic background in physics! I've played around with the same idea in my head a little, but I wouldn't be able to articulate the science behind it half as well as you did, so thank you for giving me some topics to further research :D I'm definitely going to explore your idead along with a few others brought up today.

I must say, it's pretty funnyy that mwa and I have such strong opinions on a topic that has virtually zero tangible test results in the context of PVs to make any comparisons based off! Time to break out our drills and mangle a few caps!

lol, unfortunately I've probably forgotten more than I ever learned... And before I get flamed for insulting the original design (which I happen to love - ALL PROPS to Jim), this is a new product and I think we may have an opportunity to help as a community with ideas he could easily use to get even better. I ordered an additional top cap to play with. I think I could use the drill press to add a symetrically opposed additional wick hole and use the threaded fill hole as a terminal to dual wick. Still haven't thought through how to refill after that :laugh:, but would add another breather hole for the new wick which would lighten the draw and provide a turbulent flow in the center after coming across the new wick.
 

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lol, unfortunately I've probably forgotten more than I ever learned... And before I get flamed for insulting the original design (which I happen to love - ALL PROPS to Jim), this is a new product and I think we may have an opportunity to help as a community with ideas he could easily use to get even better. I ordered an additional top cap to play with. I think I could use the drill press to add a symetrically opposed additional wick hole and use the threaded fill hole as a terminal to dual wick. Still haven't thought through how to refill after that :laugh:, but would add another breather hole for the new wick which would lighten the draw and provide a turbulent flow in the center after coming across the new wick.

Do it man! And please keep us posted throughout the process, I'd love to hear what you have to report back! I'll do likewise with my hellfire mini when I get it back, which is configured exactly how you're planning to setup your DID :D
 

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Just saying this is Jims thread, and the DID as is is just fine as is.
If your want to have "your" discussion, open another thread for discussion. Or maybe disappear until you have your own genny atty's or whatever mods & accessories that are MWA designed . That's all.

Your bullying style of post I wont fall into a trap of speaking back in the manner you do or use the verbiage either, and I wont be disappearing anytime soon. There is nothing wrong with Genesis discussion in a Genesis DID thread.
 

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Sorry all, but I must chime in. Discussions involving tricks and techniques to help me improve the operation of my DID, are very useful indeed. However hypothetical modifications of what is an excellent product, are distractions. Just my opinion, but I think there is a modders area which might be a better arena for the mutation of this excellent device. Don't mean to offend.

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That works, but sometimes you'll fill through 1 wick and the juice will be forced up through the other one if your needle fits flush in the channel of your wick. Adding a fill hole is a much better bet, as it'd also greatly improve wicking to both wicks by eliminating the chance of a vacuum building up in the tank.
Cool, will-do. It's somewhere in the USPS alternate universe struggling to get home to Papa...

hmm, now that I think of it. I don't let my wick touch bottom so maybe its 's easy as using a syringe or blunt tipped bottle to inject juice in through one of the wicks.
 

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Fair enough! Thank you for asking so politely, that's how to get sht done on the forums.
Sorry all, but I must chime in. Discussions involving tricks and techniques to help me improve the operation of my DID, are very useful indeed. However hypothetical modifications of what is an excellent product, are distractions. Just my opinion, but I think there is a modders area which might be a better arena for the mutation of this excellent device. Don't mean to offend.

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Just saying. Jim's obviously done his homework, and has come out with a great product that will probably soon become (is) in great demand as is. Theory is great to further the many genesis and other products. That said, why not open a genesis theory thread instead of doing it in this thread. That's all.
 

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Discussions of this nature suggesting substantial design changes to a product, can potentially reach a critical mass in the manufacturer's own thread. I tend to agree there are likely better venues for such topics, thus minimizing the possibility that well-meaning thoughts and suggestions as to design enhancements are misconstrued.
 

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Not to be smart Lazzered and with all do respect, So what should we discuss in this thread other then how great of a job Jim has done on the DID, which we have already done ?

Has Jim said he wasnt allowing open discussion here ? can we not put our suggestions out in this open forum and thread ? Is Jim all done here and not going to advance this or any other units ? I would listen to Jim if he said none of this is open for discussion in this thread for sure, but on the flip side great ideas come from open discussion of great minds, so in just my opinion it is all up to Jim what gets discussed here, I'll await his direction and see what Jim thinks on this to see if we are allowed Discussion of DID and Genesis style components and individual ideas in HIS thread, it hasn't seemed to be an issue to Jim so far, only you say it shouldn't be done, I'm more then willing to abide by what Jim would like his thread to be about, then chose to discuss that or not.
 
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5 wraps 1.3 ohms???? Why is my Provari saying that my DID shorty is 1.3 Ohms when I have 5 wraps? I am new to the Provari and the Did. Can someone help/ It seems to be working OK. But I read someone else that has 5 wraps and 2.6 ohms.

Also, does anyone know if the regular center pole will fit on the shorty top and bottom? I am thinking of just buying the center pole and pin to make my shorty a regular size.

thanks

Mike N
 

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5 wraps 1.3 ohms???? Why is my Provari saying that my DID shorty is 1.3 Ohms when I have 5 wraps? I am new to the Provari and the Did. Can someone help/ It seems to be working OK. But I read someone else that has 5 wraps and 2.6 ohms.

Also, does anyone know if the regular center pole will fit on the shorty top and bottom? I am thinking of just buying the center pole and pin to make my shorty a regular size.

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Mike N

Mike, it really depends on the total length of your wire, and some wicks are made fatter and some are thinner, there are so many ohms per foot of wire, this gets divided down to inches and so on, got me ? so 1 inch of wire = X amount of ohms, though I also had the same thing before happen to me on my Provari and didnt understand it either with 5 Wraps, then after a bit and a slight movement of the wire it went to somewhere around 2.5, if your not shorting out vape it a while and see if it changes maybe
 

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5 wraps 1.3 ohms???? Why is my Provari saying that my DID shorty is 1.3 Ohms when I have 5 wraps? I am new to the Provari and the Did. Can someone help/ It seems to be working OK. But I read someone else that has 5 wraps and 2.6 ohms.

Also, does anyone know if the regular center pole will fit on the shorty top and bottom? I am thinking of just buying the center pole and pin to make my shorty a regular size.

thanks

Mike N

I have a regular and got the shorty kit and the only changed parts are the tank, center post and pin. Everything else is the same.
 

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]Just saying this is Jims thread, and the DID as is is just fine as is.[/B]
If your want to have "your" discussion, open another thread for discussion. Or maybe disappear until you have your own genny atty's or whatever mods & accessories that are MWA designed . That's all.


did anyone say it wasn't fine? trying to improve things is what most of us do to some extent, its part of the personality that gets into vaping in the first place

and does ECF really need another great product/forum filled with fanboy zealotry?
 
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