New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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Agree. I always see people complain about hot spots/shorts. I try to give them the same simple advice. But no that have to listen to the fancy answers.

Burn the crap out of the wick. You can even do it with a lighter. :) put juice on it burn it some more. If it looks like it's old and black. Ready for use. :).


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Hey everyone. /\ /\ /\ /\+1 I was having a lot of issues with shorts also. After listening to ppl on these threads I decided to heat the wick before I roll and then burn off juice after its rolled, (burned the heck out of it). I was always afraid that I would burn it to much and break down the ss mesh but now I have found the ways. Burn it good and tweak the coils. lol
 

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I actually find less is more when it comes to wick preparation. I torch the flat piece of mesh for a couple of seconds only on both sides. Then roll and do a juice burn x 2 or 3. My wicks are dull grey. This has given me much less issues with the mesh causing shorts. Mine rests on the bottom too. When I used to torch my wicks until black i found they became brittle.
Agree. I always see people complain about hot spots/shorts. I try to give them the same simple advice. But no that have to listen to the fancy answers.

Burn the crap out of the wick. You can even do it with a lighter. :) put juice on it burn it some more. If it looks like it's old and black. Ready for use. :).


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OK today I tore down 4 of my DIDs and the mini and the orion. I torched and rolled the 500 mesh thick tight coil with minimal center hole. For Uma I did the 30 awg coil. With a 3/4 wrap clocked in at 1.3 to 1.5 ohms. For my other coils I used the twisted 33awg. That one came in at 1.1 ohms.
The 500 mesh is super soft and soooo smooth. I did my usual quickie flash through the torch. To stiffen the coil just a bit I did 1 quench after the juice burn. I have to say the 500 mesh wicks extremely well. The flavor is really good. My white peach ....which I would drink if I could tasted better than ever....I didn't think that was even possible. The 500 mesh is very short free. Just a tiny bit of coil tinkering and life was good.I did also try the twisted 32 awg but this wire is just too thick and inflexible to provide a stable coil.
As I had the tanks torn down I decided to use the stainless steel parts. I LOVE the spacer, that seems to make coils much easier to make. I kept the old screw for the negative wire....if feels tighter than the new type. But I love the new screws for the fill holes.
I did finally get the mini DID running well....for some reason the mini gave me all kinds of issues and I went to a silica wick. Now it is running with the 500 mesh happily.
In celebration I whipped up some new juices.... lemon meringue pie, Irish coffee, pinacolada, chocolate toffee, chocolate strawberry, vanilla cream, and cinnamon roll.
 

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OK today I tore down 4 of my DIDs and the mini and the orion. I torched and rolled the 500 mesh thick tight coil with minimal center hole. For Uma I did the 30 awg coil. With a 3/4 wrap clocked in at 1.3 to 1.5 ohms. For my other coils I used the twisted 33awg. That one came in at 1.1 ohms.
The 500 mesh is super soft and soooo smooth. I did my usual quickie flash through the torch. To stiffen the coil just a bit I did 1 quench after the juice burn. I have to say the 500 mesh wicks extremely well. The flavor is really good. My white peach ....which I would drink if I could tasted better than ever....I didn't think that was even possible. The 500 mesh is very short free. Just a tiny bit of coil tinkering and life was good.I did also try the twisted 32 awg but this wire is just too thick and inflexible to provide a stable coil.
As I had the tanks torn down I decided to use the stainless steel parts. I LOVE the spacer, that seems to make coils much easier to make. I kept the old screw for the negative wire....if feels tighter than the new type. But I love the new screws for the fill holes.
I did finally get the mini DID running well....for some reason the mini gave me all kinds of issues and I went to a silica wick. Now it is running with the 500 mesh happily.
In celebration I whipped up some new juices.... lemon meringue pie, Irish coffee, pinacolada, chocolate toffee, chocolate strawberry, vanilla cream, and cinnamon roll.

How do you twist your 33 awg, if you don't mind sharing. I have a bunch, and I'd love to start using it.

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How do you twist your 33 awg, if you don't mind sharing. I have a bunch, and I'd love to start using it.

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I read on another post someone is using a Dremell, bend a 2 meter length piece and clamp the bend in the chuck then short bursts on the dremell.
 
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I cut off about 6 feet (or so). I fold it in 2. The end with the loop I hook over my dining room chair (has wood that sticks up). Then the 2 cut ends I put in a drill and use a screwdriver bit that I tighten nice and tight. This holds the wire nice and tight. Then I step back putting a bit of tension on the wire I want to twist. Crank the drill. I twist until the twists are about 1mm apart. Make sure the twists are tight the whole way. I unhook it from my dining room chair first. Support the twist a bit because it will twist a bit when first unhooked. Then free it from the drill and voila you have a gorgeous twisted 33awg wire. I cut mine after coiling into the size of pieces that I use to make a coil.
How do you twist your 33 awg, if you don't mind sharing. I have a bunch, and I'd love to start using it.

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If this helps anyone, a diagram of the coil path I use on my DID to reduce the gap between the contacts and the wick (not to scale).
CoilWrap.gif
 

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First, I don't want anyone to think I've been playing chickensht here by not posting in Jim's defense, but I'm on a backpacking trip in Europe with my girlfriend and haven't been able to get on the computer since I left 3 weeks ago, but anyways, I should hope that the respect I have for Jim and his work transcends a meager forum posts.

Lookout, I'm on a roll now. This sort of thing infuriates me. Truth be told, it should infuriate all Jims friends and loyal customers. Then it should irriate all other vapers too. Here we have Jim, putting his money into this venture and the Chinese come swooping in to steal his design and sell for on the cheap. Everyone on all forums talk about not wanting to buy chinese attys anymore. Well what do you call this.

Futher more, its not just the Chinese, its alot of countries too like Korea, Japan, etc.

IMO - anyone with any kind of integrity would not buy these types - ripoffs - attys. I dont want to hear how people dont have alot of money and they cant afford a DID. Well they certainly afforded cigarettes and I know what those cost.

Not only is it happening to Jim, GG's are even worse. Lots of people are copying Imeos designs and selling on the cheap. Yes we know who is buying same as Jim knows from reading threads. I hope all the people that put money in the pockets in the knock off artists are happy. They certainly wouldn't like it if it was them that had a product and was being copied.

GG's aren't going to be lifetime guaranteed anymore unless original owner and can prove they bought it from a supplier. There is someone even on UKVapers making GG parts and selling them. Yes people from ECF and are customers of GG are filling his pockets for the rip-offs.

No integrity anymore that I see. Now I've vented. It's truly a shame. Whats really a shame is there are people on this forum that will run over to that site and buy one. I just hope it falls apart after they get it. Same as that other that is being sold in a co-op in another thread.


AND while I'm at it, I have been accused of having alot of mods, so I must have alot of money and can afford these things. Well, I work two jobs so I can afford these things and my dogs too. If I did not work two jobs I would have 1 DID and probably 1 PV to put it on. and 1 dog instead of 4. So by working 64 hrs a week, thats how I do it.

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Right on Brig



All I can say is - I see two distinct groups of people on this thread. Those who defend Jim and the outright theft of his name - The DID and the copying of his design. The other group defends the thief and copier making excuses for him and reasons for people to buy it.


A thief is a thief. If you steal 10 cents - 10 million or a name - your still a thief. Giving money to said thief is ---------------

I don't want everyone to spark up this fire again, but I just wanted to repost Dspin's posts to remind everyone here on the DID thread of the general sentiment. But again, enough of that. What needed to be said was said.

With awg 30 and 2-3 wrap. Its safe if your PV can push it. The Provari V2 was 3-3.1V. So I sold it.
Damn glad to hear that you're having good results with the 30g! Dropping the electronic mod in exchange for a solid 3.7v mechanical mod with an MNKE really takes things to a new level.
If this helps anyone, a diagram of the coil path I use on my DID to reduce the gap between the contacts and the wick (not to scale).
CoilWrap.gif
WOW! Great contribution! This should go in the DID forum index Jim quotes to in post #1. Thank you for this, it'll be a great asset to those struggling with their DIDs :D


Here is my long awaited video review that I should have done a long time ago!! Better late then never!!

Damn thorough review, thanks for taking the time to put it together.
 

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I cut off about 6 feet (or so). I fold it in 2. The end with the loop I hook over my dining room chair (has wood that sticks up). Then the 2 cut ends I put in a drill and use a screwdriver bit that I tighten nice and tight. This holds the wire nice and tight. Then I step back putting a bit of tension on the wire I want to twist. Crank the drill. I twist until the twists are about 1mm apart. Make sure the twists are tight the whole way. I unhook it from my dining room chair first. Support the twist a bit because it will twist a bit when first unhooked. Then free it from the drill and voila you have a gorgeous twisted 33awg wire. I cut mine after coiling into the size of pieces that I use to make a coil.


That is the same way I used to twist lead came for small stained glass panels...except I used a vise at one end.
 

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OK today I tore down 4 of my DIDs and the mini and the orion. I torched and rolled the 500 mesh thick tight coil with minimal center hole. For Uma I did the 30 awg coil. With a 3/4 wrap clocked in at 1.3 to 1.5 ohms. For my other coils I used the twisted 33awg. That one came in at 1.1 ohms.
The 500 mesh is super soft and soooo smooth. I did my usual quickie flash through the torch. To stiffen the coil just a bit I did 1 quench after the juice burn. I have to say the 500 mesh wicks extremely well. The flavor is really good. My white peach ....which I would drink if I could tasted better than ever....I didn't think that was even possible. The 500 mesh is very short free. Just a tiny bit of coil tinkering and life was good.I did also try the twisted 32 awg but this wire is just too thick and inflexible to provide a stable coil.
As I had the tanks torn down I decided to use the stainless steel parts. I LOVE the spacer, that seems to make coils much easier to make. I kept the old screw for the negative wire....if feels tighter than the new type. But I love the new screws for the fill holes.
I did finally get the mini DID running well....for some reason the mini gave me all kinds of issues and I went to a silica wick. Now it is running with the 500 mesh happily.
In celebration I whipped up some new juices.... lemon meringue pie, Irish coffee, pinacolada, chocolate toffee, chocolate strawberry, vanilla cream, and cinnamon roll.
SWEEEEEET!!!! I love you guys (and gals!!). This is such great news, all around! We can now dial in our meshes to match our flavors.
Did it flood overnight??? That would be my big concern, because, like I mentioned in another post, mine wicks fantastically and doesn't leak or flood ever (nor are there ever any dry hits). I worry a bit about flooding and leaking overnight with the 500/30. But if it does, I can always set it in an egg carton with a condom on the threads.
I'm so excited to try this for the not so strong flavors like Vanilla, etc. I think I'll leave the Pink Spot flavors at 400/32... oh and the AltCigs Irish Cream at 400/32 (it already makes me giddy with delight lol), but there certainly are flavors out there that can use a punch up. I love this. You all ROCK!!!!!

I cut off about 6 feet (or so). I fold it in 2. The end with the loop I hook over my dining room chair (has wood that sticks up). Then the 2 cut ends I put in a drill and use a screwdriver bit that I tighten nice and tight. This holds the wire nice and tight. Then I step back putting a bit of tension on the wire I want to twist. Crank the drill. I twist until the twists are about 1mm apart. Make sure the twists are tight the whole way. I unhook it from my dining room chair first. Support the twist a bit because it will twist a bit when first unhooked. Then free it from the drill and voila you have a gorgeous twisted 33awg wire. I cut mine after coiling into the size of pieces that I use to make a coil.
Very detailed and easy to imagine/follow description of the twisting method. Thanks! This is yet another experiment I have on my wish list.
(somehow I keep getting behinder and behinder on my to-do list.... I wonder what they put in that Irish Cream??)

If this helps anyone, a diagram of the coil path I use on my DID to reduce the gap between the contacts and the wick (not to scale).
CoilWrap.gif
Excellent graphic!!! I agree with Rick, this needs to be in the Index!!! I hope someone with know-how will step up to the plate and add it. (please don't look at me, I would totally mess up the entire index. I *know* me).



Here is my long awaited video review that I should have done a long time ago!! Better late then never!!

Very nice! A big thanks for this, you even included the o-rings placements and hot coils tinkering. Well done!!!
I can't help myself here, sorry!, but ... psssst, try Scorching the mesh before the fold and roll and I bet it leaves the hot spot in the dust. (Jack Frost method).
But, I'm glad you did it this way, because it lets the viewer play with those hot spots right along with you. :)
 
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Update on the 500 mesh.
Uma there was no leakage overnight and I had them all laying on their sides....but I also did the thick wick with almost no center hole. I switched all of them over to the 500 mesh this morning. I have some really thick juices and they are all wicking great. My 200 and 270 mesh is going to get retired I think. I have to wrap that mesh with silica strands because they are impossible (for me) to oxidize well without making them crispy. I will make up some 270 wicks with the silica thread for travelling as they are idiot-proof to set up.
 

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First, I don't want anyone to think I've been playing chickensht here by not posting in Jim's defense, but I'm on a backpacking trip in Europe with my girlfriend and haven't been able to get on the computer since I left 3 weeks ago, but anyways, I should hope that the respect I have for Jim and his work transcends a meager forum posts.
Your trip brings back happy memories of my youth. I grew up in england and spent many weeks hitchhiking through Europe ( it was a safer world back then). Hope you are having fun.
 

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Excellent graphic!!! I agree with Rick, this needs to be in the Index!!! I hope someone with know-how will step up to the plate and add it. (please don't look at me, I would totally mess up the entire index. I *know* me).


Thanks Uma....

I was helping someone out on a UK thread today and quickly made up that graphic... I then had to teardown a perfectly good coil to wrap a new one and take a photo to show them what it should look like.... I then vaped a full tank of my fav juice with it, and then took a second photo of the coil dryburning, to show even glow without hotspots.

I attach them here if it helps anyone.... please excuse the wet and dirty state of the DID, but it is in use constantly, also the second pic is a bit blurred as it's hard to focus and take the pic with one hand and fire the coil with the other.

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Glowingcoil.jpg
 

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If this helps anyone, a diagram of the coil path I use on my DID to reduce the gap between the contacts and the wick (not to scale).
CoilWrap.gif

This is spot on and the best way. Picture tells a 1000 words and you have done just that. Thanks for sharing. Perhaps we should call this the MMT method. The mickey mouse termination! Looks like his ears!!
 

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Thanks Uma....

I was helping someone out on a UK thread today and quickly made up that graphic... I then had to teardown a perfectly good coil to wrap a new one and take a photo to show them what it should look like.... I then vaped a full tank of my fav juice with it, and then took a second photo of the coil dryburning, to show even glow without hotspots.

I attach them here if it helps anyone.... please excuse the wet and dirty state of the DID, but it is in use constantly, also the second pic is a bit blurred as it's hard to focus and take the pic with one hand and fire the coil with the other.

coil.jpg


Glowingcoil.jpg
Great looking coil and wick.
 
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