New Genesis type atomizer by DID!
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Wow dspi, the beauty of your photographs never ceases to amaze me.Yes indeed, fits great on GGTS
Truly you are passionate about your quality vaping gear.
My current setup on my DID standard is really blowing me away.
I've been following this thread for a couple of months since I first started obsessing about owning a quality genesis, I would hear tales of "intense flavor", "got to cut down on the nicotine in my mixes the DID is making me nauseous, but in a good way LOL", "This DID producing overwhelming plumes of vapor" etc. etc. These are not exact quotes, but you get the picture.
Then my first DID std arrived, and the fun and games began. I have worked as a mechanic, television engineer and am always "fixing things", I thought "this will be a snap"!
Um... well no. don't get me wrong I could get a working setup going with no obvious shorts/hotspots etc, but I spent many hours and sleepless nights fiddling, recoiling making new wicks etc, in search of the fore mentioned genesis nirvana.
I researched on youtube, read every post that I could on ECF, aussievapers, vaporwall and anywhere else they were talking about ss wicks and genesis coils. again, I state I was enjoying my DID experience and had a good vape going, but I am a perfectionist to a fault and this fiddling had become an obsession the likes of which I haven't known for a long while.
Over the last month my oxidation process and coiling methods have developed through countless helpful posts of advice mainly from here, but also from the #500 mesh thread, a well visited DIDers hangout.
every setup has been that little bit better, more thought out and easier, but today the Ah ha moment well and truly occurred.
I now have "intense flavor",and I think I've "got to cut down on the nicotine in my mixes the DID is making me nauseous, but in a good way LOL" and "This DID producing overwhelming plumes of vapor".
Was it worth all the hours, lost sleep, meters of kanthal, litres of Vg use in testing new coils etc .etc./
Hell YES,
Would I do it all over again knowing what I know now?
Definitely
What was my end result after all my effort?
Truly the best flavor & vaping experience ever.
Big thanks to ALL those who listened to my struggles and tirelessly posted new and innovative methods and troubleshooting advice.
I now have 2 DID stds, and another on the way, and a DID mini, these will last me forever, and cost me less
money than I spent on smokes per month.
Thanks also to Jim for amongst other things the best customer service I've seen from any manufacturer or vendor.
I've been following this thread for a couple of months since I first started obsessing about owning a quality genesis, I would hear tales of "intense flavor", "got to cut down on the nicotine in my mixes the DID is making me nauseous, but in a good way LOL", "This DID producing overwhelming plumes of vapor" etc. etc. These are not exact quotes, but you get the picture.
Then my first DID std arrived, and the fun and games began. I have worked as a mechanic, television engineer and am always "fixing things", I thought "this will be a snap"!
Um... well no. don't get me wrong I could get a working setup going with no obvious shorts/hotspots etc, but I spent many hours and sleepless nights fiddling, recoiling making new wicks etc, in search of the fore mentioned genesis nirvana.
I researched on youtube, read every post that I could on ECF, aussievapers, vaporwall and anywhere else they were talking about ss wicks and genesis coils. again, I state I was enjoying my DID experience and had a good vape going, but I am a perfectionist to a fault and this fiddling had become an obsession the likes of which I haven't known for a long while.
Over the last month my oxidation process and coiling methods have developed through countless helpful posts of advice mainly from here, but also from the #500 mesh thread, a well visited DIDers hangout.
every setup has been that little bit better, more thought out and easier, but today the Ah ha moment well and truly occurred.
I now have "intense flavor",and I think I've "got to cut down on the nicotine in my mixes the DID is making me nauseous, but in a good way LOL" and "This DID producing overwhelming plumes of vapor".
Was it worth all the hours, lost sleep, meters of kanthal, litres of Vg use in testing new coils etc .etc./
Hell YES,
Would I do it all over again knowing what I know now?
Definitely
What was my end result after all my effort?
Truly the best flavor & vaping experience ever.
Big thanks to ALL those who listened to my struggles and tirelessly posted new and innovative methods and troubleshooting advice.
I now have 2 DID stds, and another on the way, and a DID mini, these will last me forever, and cost me less
money than I spent on smokes per month.
Thanks also to Jim for amongst other things the best customer service I've seen from any manufacturer or vendor.
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Thank you all very much 
Yes it does look very nice on the GGTS that is for darned sure I will be using this one on my Provari though so I guess I better make darned sure that I get zero hotspots or shorts from what it sounds like.
Now I have a few questions before it gets here, I use Pink Spot liquids a lot and I mix my DIY juices at 60/40 PG/VG for optimum flavor, vapor and TH for my tastes. Now my first wick I intend to be a hybrid mesh and silica combination, silica rolled up in the SS Mesh.
So with this information which mesh should I use to avoid leaks and still get proper wicking for vaping? I saw some 400 SS Mesh on Ebay for a decent price but I am totally new to this so I am not sure if it is the right kind for this application.
Sincerely;
Nate aka Darth Vapor
Yes it does look very nice on the GGTS that is for darned sure
I will be using this one on my Provari though so I guess I better make darned sure that I get zero hotspots or shorts from what it sounds like.Now I have a few questions before it gets here, I use Pink Spot liquids a lot and I mix my DIY juices at 60/40 PG/VG for optimum flavor, vapor and TH for my tastes. Now my first wick I intend to be a hybrid mesh and silica combination, silica rolled up in the SS Mesh.
So with this information which mesh should I use to avoid leaks and still get proper wicking for vaping? I saw some 400 SS Mesh on Ebay for a decent price but I am totally new to this so I am not sure if it is the right kind for this application.
Sincerely;
Nate aka Darth Vapor
<--- has never left the screw out either. Crazy how we all differ from build to build.
The three main areas to concern with are:
* Is the mesh deader than a doornail?
* Is the wick wicking?
* Is the coil heating up evenly?
* Jack Frost method pretty much covers killing the mesh.
* Seasoning the wick drives the juice into the mesh layers. (doing a dry hit also will do this, just cover the airhole in the cap and take a gentle draw without firing the button. Squonking like a Reo)
* making sure the wire isn't wrapped too tight or too loose, too low or too high, too spaced or too close, and never touching the post yet not too far away either.
* using a battery at 3.8 instead of fresh, on a mechanical mod, will insure we're not revving the engine before everything is correctly adjusted, whether it be the wicking or the coiling. If it's a VV mod, then setting it at 3.0 is the key. Once it's working flawlessly, then gradually turn the rpms up.
Too wet, it won't vaporize. Too dry it won't vaporize. (twist the body to suit so wick aims right for YOU)
When black stuff comes off on your hands, it's time to wipe it off, reinsert, rewet, and fire it up.
If nothing comes off on your hands, it's too dry and needs seasoning.
Just putting some overall thoughts out there, to hopefully simplify.
Congrats to those who hang in there and achieve their Nirvana like the others, like me. It is so worth it.
The three main areas to concern with are:
* Is the mesh deader than a doornail?
* Is the wick wicking?
* Is the coil heating up evenly?
* Jack Frost method pretty much covers killing the mesh.
* Seasoning the wick drives the juice into the mesh layers. (doing a dry hit also will do this, just cover the airhole in the cap and take a gentle draw without firing the button. Squonking like a Reo)
* making sure the wire isn't wrapped too tight or too loose, too low or too high, too spaced or too close, and never touching the post yet not too far away either.
* using a battery at 3.8 instead of fresh, on a mechanical mod, will insure we're not revving the engine before everything is correctly adjusted, whether it be the wicking or the coiling. If it's a VV mod, then setting it at 3.0 is the key. Once it's working flawlessly, then gradually turn the rpms up.
Too wet, it won't vaporize. Too dry it won't vaporize. (twist the body to suit so wick aims right for YOU)
When black stuff comes off on your hands, it's time to wipe it off, reinsert, rewet, and fire it up.
If nothing comes off on your hands, it's too dry and needs seasoning.
Just putting some overall thoughts out there, to hopefully simplify.
Congrats to those who hang in there and achieve their Nirvana like the others, like me. It is so worth it.
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Subjective question here....
Many will tell you 325 for higher VG, but I no longer use anything but 400 even for 100% VG. 325 generally equals more "throat hit".
500 mesh is all the buzz right now, but I haven't tried yet. I'm sure I will at some point, mostly to satisfy curiosity, but I've never had a problem of any kind with 400.
Personally, I'd say go for the 400 until you get comfortable with set-up. There's more variability in how you oxidize, roll, and coil when you're starting out than you'll ever notice among the different mesh..
Oh, and welcome aboard!
Many will tell you 325 for higher VG, but I no longer use anything but 400 even for 100% VG. 325 generally equals more "throat hit".
500 mesh is all the buzz right now, but I haven't tried yet. I'm sure I will at some point, mostly to satisfy curiosity, but I've never had a problem of any kind with 400.
Personally, I'd say go for the 400 until you get comfortable with set-up. There's more variability in how you oxidize, roll, and coil when you're starting out than you'll ever notice among the different mesh..
Oh, and welcome aboard!
Thank you all very much
Yes it does look very nice on the GGTS that is for darned sure
Now I have a few questions before it gets here, I use Pink Spot liquids a lot and I mix my DIY juices at 60/40 PG/VG for optimum flavor, vapor and TH for my tastes. Now my first wick I intend to be a hybrid mesh and silica combination, silica rolled up in the SS Mesh.
So with this information which mesh should I use to avoid leaks and still get proper wicking for vaping? I saw some 400 SS Mesh on Ebay for a decent price but I am totally new to this so I am not sure if it is the right kind for this application.
Sincerely;
Nate aka Darth Vapor
My current setup on my DID standard is really blowing me away.
I've been following this thread for a couple of months since I first started obsessing about owning a quality genesis, I would hear tales of "intense flavor", "got to cut down on the nicotine in my mixes the DID is making me nauseous, but in a good way LOL", "This DID producing overwhelming plumes of vapor" etc. etc. These are not exact quotes, but you get the picture.
Then my first DID std arrived, and the fun and games began. I have worked as a mechanic, television engineer and am always "fixing things", I thought "this will be a snap"!
Um... well no. don't get me wrong I could get a working setup going with no obvious shorts/hotspots etc, but I spent many hours and sleepless nights fiddling, recoiling making new wicks etc, in search of the fore mentioned genesis nirvana.
I researched on youtube, read every post that I could on ECF, aussievapers, vaporwall and anywhere else they were talking about ss wicks and genesis coils. again, I state I was enjoying my DID experience and had a good vape going, but I am a perfectionist to a fault and this fiddling had become an obsession the likes of which I haven't known for a long while.
Over the last month my oxidation process and coiling methods have developed through countless helpful posts of advice mainly from here, but also from the #500 mesh thread, a well visited DIDers hangout.
every setup has been that little bit better, more thought out and easier, but today the Ah ha moment well and truly occurred.
I now have "intense flavor",and I think I've "got to cut down on the nicotine in my mixes the DID is making me nauseous, but in a good way LOL" and "This DID producing overwhelming plumes of vapor".
Was it worth all the hours, lost sleep, meters of kanthal, litres of Vg use in testing new coils etc .etc./
Hell YES,
Would I do it all over again knowing what I know now?
Definitely
What was my end result after all my effort?
Truly the best flavor & vaping experience ever.
Big thanks to ALL those who listened to my struggles and tirelessly posted new and innovative methods and troubleshooting advice.
I now have 2 DID stds, and another on the way, and a DID mini, these will last me forever, and cost me less
money than I spent on smokes per month.
Thanks also to Jim for amongst other things the best customer service I've seen from any manufacturer or vendor.
Right on!! Congrats!!I agree, 400 should suit fine. Jim sends mesh with your order, no need to worry about purchasing extra for now. That gives you lots of time to research all the pro's and con's of various ways to build.Subjective question here....
Many will tell you 325 for higher VG, but I no longer use anything but 400 even for 100% VG. 325 generally equals more "throat hit".
500 mesh is all the buzz right now, but I haven't tried yet. I'm sure I will at some point, mostly to satisfy curiosity, but I've never had a problem of any kind with 400.
Personally, I'd say go for the 400 until you get comfortable with set-up. There's more variability in how you oxidize, roll, and coil when you're starting out than you'll ever notice among the different mesh..
Oh, and welcome aboard!
Also, I would save the cotton/rope tricks for if you have a bummer wick only. I'm sure you won't need it, and if you do find you need it with your VG, then it's still really easy to add it. (just put in on a needle and sew it in right).
Congrats on purchasing a DID!
Subjective question here....
Many will tell you 325 for higher VG, but I no longer use anything but 400 even for 100% VG. 325 generally equals more "throat hit".
500 mesh is all the buzz right now, but I haven't tried yet. I'm sure I will at some point, mostly to satisfy curiosity, but I've never had a problem of any kind with 400.
Personally, I'd say go for the 400 until you get comfortable with set-up. There's more variability in how you oxidize, roll, and coil when you're starting out than you'll ever notice among the different mesh..
Oh, and welcome aboard!
Thank you very much Vapor2112
I just saw some 400 ss mesh on ebay for 12x12 sheet at about 10 bucks or so so I figure pick some of that up and try and work with it for practice until my Gemini gets here so I can at least become proficient with rolling it properly and all.
Unless there is somewhere else where I should get it from it looks a lot like what we use
Sincerely;
Nate aka Darth Vapor
Thank you very much Uma I understand that really it takes a very small piece of the SS Mesh to actually make the wick so him sending it with the order definitely does help a lot
I am just very excited about it and want to get my hands dirty on trying to perfect this because it looks so stellar on the Provari Sincerely;
Nate aka Darth Vapor
Thank you very much Vapor2112
I just saw some 400 ss mesh on ebay for 12x12 sheet at about 10 bucks or so so I figure pick some of that up and try and work with it for practice until my Gemini gets here so I can at least become proficient with rolling it properly and all.
Unless there is somewhere else where I should get it from it looks a lot like what we use
Sincerely;
Nate aka Darth Vapor
You can get the mesh at McMaster Carr, Grainger, or the Mesh Company, all are reputable sources, it really just depends on where you'd rather buy from.
There's nothing to it really, you probably don't need any practice, my first wick / coil worked fine for a few days, till I started monkeying with it. Second wick / coil is still going a couple weeks later.
That is AWESOME News I know Mcmastercarr
I bought my inner O rings for my MAP DCT's from them, they are right up the road from here where I live so they would definitely be a good source for me for quick delivery. Just have to navigate through their HUGE list of stuff to find the right mesh Nate aka Darth Vapor
OR.... You could click here:
McMaster 400 Mesh
McMaster 400 Mesh
That is AWESOME News I know Mcmastercarr
Nate aka Darth Vapor
Eh, which part?
We've talked about a LOT of stuff, and I've learned a lot in a few short weeks from it too.
Particularly, the relax and don't stress about how hard it is to build up a device you don't even have in hand yet..
Reading all of the posts, questions, problems can make this whole process seem MUCH more daunting than it actually is...
Can't recall exactly how long I've had my DID now, but its been a while. I'm still on wick #1 and coil #2... And I use it daily.
The more you over think the process, the more likely you are to run into issues...
Give it a go and ask away if you have any problems. Plenty of experts around here.
Reading all of the posts, questions, problems can make this whole process seem MUCH more daunting than it actually is...
Can't recall exactly how long I've had my DID now, but its been a while. I'm still on wick #1 and coil #2... And I use it daily.
The more you over think the process, the more likely you are to run into issues...
Give it a go and ask away if you have any problems. Plenty of experts around here.
Eh, which part?
Particularly, the relax and don't stress about how hard it is to build up a device you don't even have in hand yet..
Reading all of the posts, questions, problems can make this whole process seem MUCH more daunting than it actually is...
Can't recall exactly how long I've had my DID now, but its been a while. I'm still on wick #1 and coil #2... And I use it daily.
The more you over think the process, the more likely you are to run into issues...
Give it a go and ask away if you have any problems. Plenty of experts around here.
Ah, well I'm must have remembered subconsciously then, as I PM'd him pretty much that very thing.
Hmm what size mesh are you using. I get good bubbles with #400 and #325 mesh, I don't roll a really thick wich though, #400 7x4cm and #325 5x4cm. I think Backing out the fill screw is about the pressure in the chamber. Are you using the tilt method to get the wicking started? also cutting an angle in the wick has helped me also.
Got an update form Jim that MMVapors is going to be stocking #500 mesh, 28g Kanthal, and 30g Kanthal! And if you're going to be ordering #400 or #325 mesh, why not just get it from Jim? Also, expect on 2 DAY SHIPPING TO THE UNITED STATES FROM GREECE for an extremely reasonable price becoming a new feature from MMV!
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