So its not like a battery for a drill where you just put it on the charger and when its full it stops charging?
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So its not like a battery for a drill where you just put it on the charger and when its full it stops charging?
In an ideal world but these aren't the highest quality of gadgets and the circuit that stops the charge can fail.
If you're talking lithium battery drills any of them can and do fail.
Well, I'm gonna toss my two cents in. Knowing what I know now, I would have started with either a KGO or a Riva. Why? They are both good solid eGo type units, but they run at a slightly higher voltage. EGos are billed as 3.7 volt devices, which is true in a way, they come off the charger at around 3.7 volts but drop down to 3.3-3.4 range. KGOs and Rivas are also billed as 3.7 volt devices but unlike the eGo they come off the charger at around 4.1 and then drop to the 3.7. Both the KGO and Riva are well made and usually around the same price and in many cases cheaper than the eGos (roughly $45 for a starter kit).
The other great thing about any eGo/KGO/Riva type device is the versatility. You can try attys, carts, cartos, tanks, single coil, dual coil, blah, blah, blah. All of the bits, parts and pieces are found easily as most vendors carry some selection of "eGo" type stuff.
I personally like Sweet-vapes.com for the KGO and Riva (don't forget the hyphen or you will go to a different site). They have a decent selection to get you started, they have good prices, and OUTSTANDING customer service. Hoosier is another good site but they stamp their name on all of their stuff in big gawdy letters that I personally find ugly, and kind of cheesy.
Once you decide on a kit, then you can have the fun of trying all the different hardware to find out what YOU enjoy. Just remember what one person swears by, may not be your thing at all, and what you like others may hate. Flavors of juice are the same way.
I saw someone suggest Madvapes for a kit. I would not suggest buying a kit from them. I have a couple of friends that had their kits completely fall apart. I love Madvapes for all of their bits, parts, and pieces though, and their prices are hard to beat.
The other great thing about any eGo/KGO/Riva type device is the versatility. You can try attys, carts, cartos, tanks, single coil, dual coil, blah, blah, blah. All of the bits, parts and pieces are found easily as most vendors carry some selection of "eGo" type stuff.
I personally like Sweet-vapes.com for the KGO and Riva (don't forget the hyphen or you will go to a different site). They have a decent selection to get you started, they have good prices, and OUTSTANDING customer service. Hoosier is another good site but they stamp their name on all of their stuff in big gawdy letters that I personally find ugly, and kind of cheesy.
Once you decide on a kit, then you can have the fun of trying all the different hardware to find out what YOU enjoy. Just remember what one person swears by, may not be your thing at all, and what you like others may hate. Flavors of juice are the same way.
I saw someone suggest Madvapes for a kit. I would not suggest buying a kit from them. I have a couple of friends that had their kits completely fall apart. I love Madvapes for all of their bits, parts, and pieces though, and their prices are hard to beat.
As a follow up, I'd like to address those that 'warn' of shorter eGo batt charge life and excess joose usage.
Besides the law of conservation of energy being a law of physics, it also applies to vaping! If ya want max vapor and flavor, then you're gonna have to pay a 'price'!
I gladly pay more for 'excess' joose usage due to the satisfaction I derive from cumulus volumes of vapor and the ability to discern and maximize the different flavors and their nuances! I also have paid the price of two packs of cigs, more than several times, to insure I have extra eGo batts available. I can charge 'em at home, in my SUV and even on my boat.
The above is why I not only recommend eGo combos, but have also converted 15 acquaintances to vaping with 3.7V eGo batts and the eMDCCS. Only one young man has dropped off my vaping radar. He likes MJ too much to G-A-S 'bout his well being.
Although I have and daily use other (re more expen$ive) PVs, I still rely on the eGo/eMDCC combo when it's to my situational advantage.
Besides the law of conservation of energy being a law of physics, it also applies to vaping! If ya want max vapor and flavor, then you're gonna have to pay a 'price'!
I gladly pay more for 'excess' joose usage due to the satisfaction I derive from cumulus volumes of vapor and the ability to discern and maximize the different flavors and their nuances! I also have paid the price of two packs of cigs, more than several times, to insure I have extra eGo batts available. I can charge 'em at home, in my SUV and even on my boat.
The above is why I not only recommend eGo combos, but have also converted 15 acquaintances to vaping with 3.7V eGo batts and the eMDCCS. Only one young man has dropped off my vaping radar. He likes MJ too much to G-A-S 'bout his well being.
Although I have and daily use other (re more expen$ive) PVs, I still rely on the eGo/eMDCC combo when it's to my situational advantage.
That 3.7/3.3-3.4v Joyetech eGo batteries is old information.
From a member here who seems to know his Joyetech stuff, "the eGo-c batts run about 3.5-3.6v" and mine come off the charger around 4v which is higher than the claim of previous eGos coming off at 3.7v so I can believe it.
There's also an eGo-C "upgrade" battery out that can be switched between the constant regulated voltage or unregulated (what they call variable).
Joyetech logo Joye eGo-C 2 upgrade 1000mAh battery - Joye eGo-C spare parts Heaven Gifts
What people don't tell you about those unregulated batteries is as the charge goes they no longer burn at the full off charger voltage. The reason for the regulated voltage is so you have a consistent vape start to finish.
From a member here who seems to know his Joyetech stuff, "the eGo-c batts run about 3.5-3.6v" and mine come off the charger around 4v which is higher than the claim of previous eGos coming off at 3.7v so I can believe it.
There's also an eGo-C "upgrade" battery out that can be switched between the constant regulated voltage or unregulated (what they call variable).
Joyetech logo Joye eGo-C 2 upgrade 1000mAh battery - Joye eGo-C spare parts Heaven Gifts
What people don't tell you about those unregulated batteries is as the charge goes they no longer burn at the full off charger voltage. The reason for the regulated voltage is so you have a consistent vape start to finish.
Congrats Iffy on one year w/o an analog!
OP, Once you've slept on it a night, some of the knowledge will have time to have settle in. There are really a lot of options, and I can almost guarantee you the setup you have at first will change before you find the perfect setup for you. Since nothing will ship tomorrow, you've got another day to look into even more options. You're close, so don't get disheartened.
OP, Once you've slept on it a night, some of the knowledge will have time to have settle in. There are really a lot of options, and I can almost guarantee you the setup you have at first will change before you find the perfect setup for you. Since nothing will ship tomorrow, you've got another day to look into even more options. You're close, so don't get disheartened.
Yes grats Iffy on the 1 year mark!
Thanks for the continued support Worutaa! I plan on sleeping on it for several nights. My goal is to take some time doing research to find a quality first buy. I'm loosing my job to a planned layoff at the end of the month so I need to make sure I make the right purchase from the get go, since money might be tight for a bit.
Kgo seems like a good fit for a kit, whats the difference in the Riva?
Thanks for the continued support Worutaa! I plan on sleeping on it for several nights. My goal is to take some time doing research to find a quality first buy. I'm loosing my job to a planned layoff at the end of the month so I need to make sure I make the right purchase from the get go, since money might be tight for a bit.
Kgo seems like a good fit for a kit, whats the difference in the Riva?
EGO-style batteries with cartomizers are hard to beat. The eGo Mega Dual Coil Cartomizers are swell once you find a juice you really dig but for trying different juices, the smaller capacity 510 cartos are a pretty good bet.
So with a kit in mind I'm onto cartomizers and tanks or no tank.
Where might be a good resource to research this?
How many drops of juice does a cartomizer need? How long will it last before I need to re-fill?
If I want something that lasts all day is a tank the best option?
Lastly and this is something I should have started with I want to buy Made in USA if at all possible. I'm not trying to get into a China/other country vs. USA debate, I would just prefer to support local/national economy if I can get a quality product and a good price point.
Where might be a good resource to research this?
How many drops of juice does a cartomizer need? How long will it last before I need to re-fill?
If I want something that lasts all day is a tank the best option?
Lastly and this is something I should have started with I want to buy Made in USA if at all possible. I'm not trying to get into a China/other country vs. USA debate, I would just prefer to support local/national economy if I can get a quality product and a good price point.
Only been vaping 26 days but thought I'd save ya some cash. Forget the cig look alikes! You'll get tired of constantly recharging your batteries fast! I started with those and quickly upgraded to the KGO which rocks. Charge lasts all day. Elite Vaporworks has a great deal that comes with boge cartomizers. The dctv2 cartomizer also rocks but make the unit larger... If u smoked reds check out northwest vapors. They have Cowboy flavor that is great!that is my all day vape. I'm probably repeating advice from others but wanted to put in my two cents.... Good luck! And welcome..
Made in the usa...limits you. You would have to skip the kgo, Riva, ego and go strait to a mod as all of the previous mentioned are made in china. there are some cheap mods out there that are made in the USA. Like the rough stack and maybe the gripper a few box mods but for the most part USA PVs are going to be up there in price.
Yeah I'm starting to see that. The Reo's (which I'm not sure are USA made) are pricey and I'm not sure the box mod is my bag, though the all in one concept really rocks. I suppose given my limited cash flow to get started I will have to start with a Kgo.
So now I'm looking at CE2 Cartomizers or Clearomizers (I guess they are called).
It looks like its a combination of a Tank and Cartomizer, but in a slimmer set up and easier fill. No poly as in traditional cartomizers, just uses wick tendrils. Anyone with experience using these vs. a tank have insight?
So I "think" I'm leaning towards a Kgo starter kit and a CE2 Cartomizer.
So I'm looking for input on brands for a CE2 and how big (ml) I would need for an all day situation, refill at night.
I found a few, but I'm not sure what the deal is with posting links here (don't want to cause problems and get booted here)?
Thanks a ton everyone, I feel like I'm in the home stretch!!
It looks like its a combination of a Tank and Cartomizer, but in a slimmer set up and easier fill. No poly as in traditional cartomizers, just uses wick tendrils. Anyone with experience using these vs. a tank have insight?
So I "think" I'm leaning towards a Kgo starter kit and a CE2 Cartomizer.
So I'm looking for input on brands for a CE2 and how big (ml) I would need for an all day situation, refill at night.
I found a few, but I'm not sure what the deal is with posting links here (don't want to cause problems and get booted here)?
Thanks a ton everyone, I feel like I'm in the home stretch!!
So the choice for the battery you linked is either run in dropped down 3.3 like the "old" eGo range or run like a Riva and KGO at 4.15-3.6 range depending on the remaining strength of the battery?
"One is the constant voltage output mode which gives constant 3.3V(when it's driving the atomizer (load added)) and is the same as the normal eGo-C battery. The other is variable voltage output mode, in this mode, the voltage will change from 4.15V to 3.6V as the lithium battery power decreases"
So why fool around with this instead of just buying a unit (again the Riva or KGO) that always runs that range and is about $5 a battery cheaper?
Choice is always better.
Because you may want consistency through the whole charge. Because not all flavors will do good with more voltage.
I haven't experienced it but what I've been reading on the forums has me thinking $5 for the choice isn't that bad of a deal since if what I'm reading is correct reliability is also better.
Been on this site and others + videos for 12 hours today, time for bed.
Thanks for the great help today everyone, will check in the morning to see if anyone had opinions about my post #54 (a few posts up).
Night.
Thanks for the great help today everyone, will check in the morning to see if anyone had opinions about my post #54 (a few posts up).
Night.
Almost everyone here is telling you to get XXX brand's battery because it pumps out higher volts. Higher volts equals hotter coil thus harsher vapor and a lot of people want throat hit.
Under strain an unregulated battery mentioned is going to start out around 3.7v. As the battery runs down so does the voltage.
That means the first drag you take on a new battery isn't the same as the last.
Joyetech regulated their eGo batteries so you would have consistency through the whole charge.
Some people don't like that so Joyetech came out with a new battery that you can switch between regulated and unregulated. But that is new so a lot of people don't know about it.
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