So, the big island of Hawaii has prohibited all usage of electronic cigarettes where smoking is prohibited. Sad and crazy, I know. How about a new hardware idea to go around these laws. Maybe halo can make an inhaler that delivers nicotine and the juice, kinda like an inhaler that asthma sufferers use. Since it will have no battery it won't be electronic, thus not considered an electronic cigarette, thus can't be prohibited. I would definitely purchase this so I can use it indoors when I can't vape. I don't see this new law ever being overturned and I don't think we'll be the last. Do you guys think it would be too difficult to produce?
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I agree with not vaping where cigarettes are prohibited.
It's kind of flaunting it. Why poke the bear?
My mother forgot herself and put a vapor cloud over our table in a restaurant a couple weeks ago. We laughed, but now we watch her a bit closer.
It's kind of flaunting it. Why poke the bear?
My mother forgot herself and put a vapor cloud over our table in a restaurant a couple weeks ago. We laughed, but now we watch her a bit closer.
The Patch is a good idea except I'm allergic to it. Here pretty much the only place you can vape is at home or on the street, which in that case you better watch out for cars cause there's hardly any sidewalks, can't even vape in most parking lots. So if an inhaler type thing could be produced that would be great.
the problem with an inhaler is that it isnt quite efficient enough at, for lack of a better word, nebulizing liquids for this application. I had asthma when i was little and you get quite a lot of the liquid right to the back of the throat, and with a nicotine solution that sounds unpleasant. also its in a more concentrated form so you wouldnt be breathing out much of what you breathed in. so you end up with that nicotine solution sitting in your lungs. also sounds unpleasant and youd have a much grater nicotine absorption rate and might make yourself sick
I'm with Zavri and Doc, I vape where I smoked. I don't push my vaping on others. 1 exception, I will stealth vape in a bathroom where I wouldn't smoke and my work allows me to vape at my desk but I don't because although they were proud of me for quitting smoking and offered for me to vape inside being "open minded" about vaping so I wouldn't go back to smoking. I would never smoke in front of them so I don't vape in front of them, I go to the bathroom to vape. Everyone is happy.
I feel like I'm an ambassador for vaping by educating those around me and letting them see vaping as a positive. By watching me and seeing what vaping has done for me, others ask questions for their loved ones who smoke and I'm always available to answer questions or show their loved ones my gear. I don't use huge looking gear, blow vapor in everyones face or anything else that gives us a bad name.
I feel like I'm an ambassador for vaping by educating those around me and letting them see vaping as a positive. By watching me and seeing what vaping has done for me, others ask questions for their loved ones who smoke and I'm always available to answer questions or show their loved ones my gear. I don't use huge looking gear, blow vapor in everyones face or anything else that gives us a bad name.
You could use Nicotine gum between being able to vape or stealth vape in a bathroom stall.
I don't think Halo would want to get into that market. Inhalers involves a lot more regulation than the vaping industry currently has. And I don't think an inhaler can use eliquid, with some reasons stated above by wjtate02.
The vaping industry is primarily selling VG and PG. They add a bit of flavor and nicotine. The profit margins are huge, enough to offset much smaller margins on hardware.
Sorta like the largest seller of Coca-Cola. The majority of profits are from the soda. You will hardly ever see a sale on the soda. Oh, they offer other items to get you in, but number one is soda. (Yes, if you guessed McDonalds, give yourself 5 points!)
Why not just buy an inhaler? There are over the counter products.
And the gum and the mints.
The vaping industry is primarily selling VG and PG. They add a bit of flavor and nicotine. The profit margins are huge, enough to offset much smaller margins on hardware.
Sorta like the largest seller of Coca-Cola. The majority of profits are from the soda. You will hardly ever see a sale on the soda. Oh, they offer other items to get you in, but number one is soda. (Yes, if you guessed McDonalds, give yourself 5 points!)
Why not just buy an inhaler? There are over the counter products.
And the gum and the mints.
I'm not sure I can agree with this, it's equivalent to admitting that there is something wrong or even dangerous about vaping and it helps to propagate a negative attitude about it. I'm not saying that I walk around a grocery school waving my vape around blowing clouds and smoke rings into the air, but other than work, I routinely vape in public places in a discreet yet non-deceptive manner.
I started vaping in my local watering hole a year and a half ago before the backlash started, and I continue to do it even though MD has passed laws against it since. Nobody has ever asked me not to do it and nobody has ever looked at me funny or said anything to me about it other than to ask me questions because they are fascinated, interested, or impressed by the whole thing. I pretty much single-handedly normalized vaping for all of the staff and regulars there, and I have probably converted several dozen smokers along the way.
That's just my experience and opinion, take from it what you will.
My position is there is no proven health problem so let owners or propriators of public spaces decide how they want things. The government can ban what they want in the spaces they own. A bar resturant near me at first banned vaping then loosened up and go case by case. Their position is if you are discrete and nobody is bothered then okay. If someone is very discrete it's hard to detect. The several of us who vape are allowed to do it where we work out on the shop floor. This was fairly important for helping me make to the transition from dual use to zero cigs, which I got done in six weeks. The boss also likes tha we aren't stepping out for a smoke any more.
What this is really about--a busy successful vape shop can get several thousand smokers a year off cigarettes. In my state a smoker who quits stops paying about $1,000 a year in state taxes so a vape shop that gets 5 people a day to quit might cost the state several million dollars and that loss carries over year after year. If hundreds of shops are doing as well that starts to add up to some real money. My impression is this stop smoking thing is becoming a stampede and the tobacco control people are very ...... of at us for threatening their money.
What this is really about--a busy successful vape shop can get several thousand smokers a year off cigarettes. In my state a smoker who quits stops paying about $1,000 a year in state taxes so a vape shop that gets 5 people a day to quit might cost the state several million dollars and that loss carries over year after year. If hundreds of shops are doing as well that starts to add up to some real money. My impression is this stop smoking thing is becoming a stampede and the tobacco control people are very ...... of at us for threatening their money.
I'm with Zavri and Doc, I vape where I smoked. I don't push my vaping on others. 1 exception, I will stealth vape in a bathroom where I wouldn't smoke and my work allows me to vape at my desk but I don't because although they were proud of me for quitting smoking and offered for me to vape inside being "open minded" about vaping so I wouldn't go back to smoking. I would never smoke in front of them so I don't vape in front of them, I go to the bathroom to vape. Everyone is happy.
I feel like I'm an ambassador for vaping by educating those around me and letting them see vaping as a positive. By watching me and seeing what vaping has done for me, others ask questions for their loved ones who smoke and I'm always available to answer questions or show their loved ones my gear. I don't use huge looking gear, blow vapor in everyones face or anything else that gives us a bad name.
I am exactly the same - if I really need a quicky vape, I will go to the bathroom for a few calming draws. But I didn't smoke in front of people and am discreet with my e-cig as well. I will hang with the smokers and vape instead. Aside from the health benefits of switching, it does allow me to stealth vape discreetly in places I would never have been able to smoke.
It looks like smoking, so is included in smoking prohibitions; that's it. Smokers will light up if they see someone vaping in a non smoking area...
A 400mAh Triton with a carto can be palmed...
A 400mAh Triton with a carto can be palmed...
I agree that it would be a blatant slam in the face to those who want to ban Ecigs to vape in malls, restaurants and public places like that, BUT I absolutely despise that people expect me to stand in a "smoking" area outdoors to vape.
There is proven studies on second hand smoke not second hand vaping. So that's where I draw the line and will vape right outside the door of an establishment I may be at. I refuse to walk around the corner outside in the freezing cold to some ashtray thing to vape with the smokers.
There is proven studies on second hand smoke not second hand vaping. So that's where I draw the line and will vape right outside the door of an establishment I may be at. I refuse to walk around the corner outside in the freezing cold to some ashtray thing to vape with the smokers.
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