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Daniel@P.S.

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sorry guys and gals no news from the release of the shipment through customs once that happens we will all have our great news to share!
Looks like it should be going out on monday but still waiting..
Trust me I want to tell you.... but the Bossman says... NO so I have to do what the bossman says...I will reveal it as soon as he gives me the green light!
 

HK45

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Not trying to be rude but if you don't start answering emails, constantly being out of stock, and always blaming customs (what's up with that), you may start having more time on your hands. Especially newbies, like me, maybe get frustrated and discourared more easily than more experienced customers. Especially when you and other sites have their money already but don't seem to be able to support the system after the first purchase. Out-of- stock day after day.
Nothing personal. Seems like a general trend in the business which is making me rethink my decision.
 

CaSHMeRe

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Not trying to be rude but if you don't start answering emails, constantly being out of stock, and always blaming customs (what's up with that), you may start having more time on your hands. Especially newbies, like me, maybe get frustrated and discourared more easily than more experienced customers. Especially when you and other sites have their money already but don't seem to be able to support the system after the first purchase. Out-of- stock day after day.
Nothing personal. Seems like a general trend in the business which is making me rethink my decision.


1. Answering Emails ... If you can read, which I feel you can, try looking at several posts within this sub-forum. We have been away for the past 3 days trying to better PS, and put PS in more of a position to handle much more business.

2. Imagine 300+ orders DAILY my friend, with multiple units PER transaction. If I could keep hundreds of thousands of units in stock knowing each and every one would make it here from China, I would have zero issues doing so.

3. Every try importing thousands of units that carry a NICOTINE/POISON cartridge or even thousands of bottles of liquid poison? Ever lose $20,000+ on a single shipment confiscated? My guess would be no, so excuse the fact we have had customs issues.

We try our best HK ... If its not good enough for you, I'm sorry. We NEVER take someone's money and backorder their shipment, and in the rare chance we do (maybe 5-6 over the past couple of months) we make sure to notify the customer and give them the option of another product or a full and complete refund.

We try our best to keep what we can in stock at all times. The CNY really through us off, not to mention an order that was completely seized ....
 
I think HK was " trying" not to be rude.. but when you have to state that you are not " trying to be rude".. you kinda know your post likely will be. Words on a monitor show a different expression then said verbally. I like to use a :) before and after my statement to let the person know i am smiling in a good way.. cause i could say this with to without a smiley and you can read it differently.

but then again HK came out throwing punches instead of a :)
 

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In my opinion, what stood out most in your reply was your arrogance. Not to mention another round of excuses. If you can read, which I think you can, google "Business Plans". For now I'll give you something simple, my friend, "No Sale".

Best Wishes,
HK45

I can't thank you enough for not ordering from us, and I sincerely wish, whoever you do order from, the best of luck, because you sound like a miserable client.

A ROUND OF EXCUSES?

Its Called *HARD FACTS* my friend. What does a business plan have to do with anything of the above mentioned? You're a newbie, you admitted it yourself; learn about ecigs/the in's and out's/ and the border problems ALL SUPPLIERs face before popping off.
 

lintz69

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HK,

Most of the suppliers on here are good to deal with. PureSmoker sets the bar high for competitors. I have ordered quite a bit from him and have had a few items go bad. (Common on these items no matter who you order from) Steve was quick to replace them. Even sent me the replacements before I sent the bad items back. Out of stock? Go to his website when he gets stock in, and try to order 1000 of an item. It will show you the true number he has in stock. Then check back the next day or 2. They are all almost gone or ARE gone. To move as many items as he does AND keep decent/good customer service is beyond me how he does it.

So no sale from you? No problem. There are HUNDREDS of us that will buy the supplies you passed up.

So thank you.
 

breakfastchef

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I can't thank you enough for not ordering from us, and I sincerely wish, whoever you do order from, the best of luck, because you sound like a miserable client.

A ROUND OF EXCUSES?

Its Called *HARD FACTS* my friend.

I understand you are very busy, your business is on the cusp of the next 'big leap' to another level, and you are under a lot of stress wanting to fill orders, often without any product in hand. Your earlier and last responses to HK45 were a bit harsh. I would like for Puresmoker.com to keep up a professional appearance at all times. If you are totally stressed out, let Joanna and Daniel reply to some of these accusatory posts that appear on this forum. BTW, my second Puresmoker order should hit my mailbox this week so you know I am a puresmoker supporter.
 

HK45

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The Way I See It (and also my last post on the subject):

@lintz69 - If you went into an actual brick and mortar store and voiced a complaint or dissatisfaction with something in a reasonable manner and the owner or manager responded to you the way Steve did to me, would you find that acceptable? While not trying to put words in your mouth I don't think you would. So why is this any different?

To Everyone Else: I reread my initial post and think that it was rather benign. I have a right to voice my opinion if I think a business isn't treating me correctly and that is what I did. I even tried to soften it by stating it was nothing personal and not meant to be rude. I even told PureSmoker in one of my unanswered emails that I chose them because of the positive comments I have read about them and hoped to do business with them exclusively. But then, Steve went off on the most spectacular display of unprofessional behavior I have ever seen. He not only became arrogant and condescending but brought it down to personal insults. What was I to think or do?
I do know a little more now about how he might be stressed out but customer service certainly isn't his forte. Maybe Daniel will take up the slack in this area.
Bottom line is it wasn't my intention to stomp on someone's fragile ego, just to get my supplies so that I could try to lose analog's. I've just been diagnosed with emphysema which has me stressed out a little too.
So, everyone think and say what you may and we'll all go along our merry way!

HK45
 

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Its sad to see what can/can't be misinterpreted over the internet! I wish you the best of luck in your esmoking adventures. My fight stops here as well ... :)

I do apologize for coming off *rather hot headed*, I just tend to get very defensive when I interpret disrespect ... I hope you will look past the pettiness of this conversation and make amends with us as a whole. We were out of town for 3 days and I'm very sorry that your emails were not answered as quickly as we would have liked them to have been.

I hope you enjoy the order you placed a couple days ago, and will even include a freebie :)
 
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CaSHMeRe

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dan ... get a pic of sadie and bandit in there with you ... Sher holding bandit ofcourse (haha) and you will top them.

gotta get Jo in to the gym so she can hold kaylee for all of 2 seconds for a picture ...

Here is Jo's last successful pickup of Kaylee ... when she was all of 35 lbs.
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Now she gets the task of trying to get this lump of love in to the air !!! (and yes ... that is a full size door for comparison ... o, and yes, she is supposed to be guarding the packages going out :) )

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Faethe

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Its sad to see what can/can't be misinterpreted over the internet! I wish you the best of luck in your esmoking adventures. My fight stops here as well ... :)

I do apologize for coming off *rather hot headed*, I just tend to get very defensive when I interpret disrespect ... I hope you will look past the pettiness of this conversation and make amends with us as a whole. We were out of town for 3 days and I'm very sorry that your emails were not answered as quickly as we would have liked them to have been.

I hope you enjoy the order you placed a couple days ago, and will even include a freebie :)

Well, you know - it's a new industry? I think people know absolutely nothing about ecigs but really want to get into it. I read about you here, went and watched your videos and ordered a 901. Brilliant :) I burned out an atomizer myself by furiously smoking burnt up stuffing (which is why I didn't turn it in for warranty - I know I did it :rolleyes:).

So next, I read here about how to wash out the atomizer. The replacements I bought are fine and my stuffing is no longer burned. This is mostly because I learned to drip and fill without going manic trying to suck up a cartons worth of nicotine in two minutes time. Joanna also answered a mail for me about how to wash out the stuffing which I found very helpful.

It's a new thing and no one knows what's going on. It's not a buy it and fly sort of thing at the moment, which probably equates with a lot of liability for you. Johnson Creek also - Oh my God what nightmares they must have had when they released that bad batch last year!

So it's a learning process. BTW I just got my two pilots and there are positively brilliant. I'm set to go outside and smoke in public, now. So I quit cigarettes altogether three days ago. Filthy, nasty things they are. You just don't know until you have an alternative?

Your doing a good job. Perhaps there is a way that you could announce - I have no idea how - that this all involves a learning curve? You have to know how to take care of the devices, you have to be a bit curious about it, and you have good reading comprehension?

I know this is why you likely helped found this forum. If I were you, I would seriously link to an appropriate segment in each of the items you sell. Like a warning to purchase additional atomizers if you don't feel especially clever (I wasn't), how to wash out your atomizers, etc.

I know some of this may entail some liability for you, but I am sure you could find a way to get around it? Because some idiot will obviously fin a way to drown an atomizer, and some idiot will blame it on you, certainly. But as this is developing, I think it's important to stress that individual participation is crucial to getting these things to work consistently.

Everything else is brilliant. You are an outstanding sales person who has taken quite a bit of my money so far, and no doubt shall see quite a bit more! I just have a lot of empathy for your situation because all this is so new.

I was one of the first people to sell books and RPGs at Amazon.com back in the 90s. OH MY GOD what a learning curve!!!!!!!! I did get better at it! I'm quite good at it now but ohhh that hurt for a while. So i can understand your frustration with people who have nary a clue.

All you need to do to smoke a cigarette is stick it in your mouth, light it, and inhale. People do screw that up in spectacular fashion. This is a tiny bit more complicated. God help anyone trying to drip into a cartridge whilst drunk, or driving!

It will work itself out :) Your doing a great job ;)
 
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