got my new redesigned saphires. tried one. really like how these things vape (when they work) It really is a nicer vape than the CE2's. But i've been through 1 1/2 tankfuls and blown them out twice already. i'm using a riva battery that is not regulated and yet the liquid still ends up unburned and puddling in the atomizer chamber. now I could understand having to unscrew and blow through the thread end to blow the excess liquid out every 5 tankfuls, but every tankful?
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The box that they come in labels them "Sapphire". But seems as if I have seen "Saphire" in other places as well. What do you mean by puddling in the atomizer chamber? Perhaps you mean can not be vaped "dry". Some liquid at bottom of tank may be necessary to allow for wicking action. Note how wick is exposed in tank. I would have concern about blowing through them too much as it seems to cause deterioration of wick. My experience with them is based on 3 ohm type. Same type for you and causing the comment?
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Ive noticed them leaking now also. I think the wick has changed for faster flow...but getting a little too fast. The positive is you can clean them and get the wick back in now. So, Im torn. I think Id prefer no leaking, and no ability to clean. They work well for 2-3 weeks, so kinda hard to complain at all at that price. 
Noticed some leaking as well but have not been able to spot source of leak. Fit at base seems very tight. Wondering if it might be condensate in airway channel.
Nah..Im talking serious leaking here, not just a drop or two. Condensation I just blow out, but takes a couple days for that to build up. My new batch are just wicking to fast to vape up....well, its been a 50/50 shot. half work fine, half dont, and I cant spot any differences that would set them apart so far. Ill assume it was a test run for possible permanent changes. But Im thinking the previous batch were just more reliable, and really had no issues with performance. The wicks were all seperate strands so once you tore em apart, there was no getting them back together and working. This batch looks like a braided wick, so you can tear em apart and put back together. But I'll take no cleaning over leaking issues myself..call me lazy. I never liked cleaning anyhow. For under 4 bucks a pop..Ill just keep a fresh saphire going. Even if I only get a week, i got my monies worth.
Serious leaking in some cases here too. But source? Just don't think it's at the plastic to threaded fitting joint. Laying on side seems to solve leaking issue - I think.
I noticed the leaking after about the 2nd or 3rd fill. I had my husband put superglue around the outside on the bottom. I haven't tried them since then...........I guess I should so that I can post an update.
So, Robl45.........they are leaking directly through the bottom of the atty? & not through the sides? I wondered about that myself since they seem like a tight fit, & I always screw on/unscrew with my fingers firmly placed around the bottom of the sapphire to be sure I don't make it loose.
So, Robl45.........they are leaking directly through the bottom of the atty? & not through the sides? I wondered about that myself since they seem like a tight fit, & I always screw on/unscrew with my fingers firmly placed around the bottom of the sapphire to be sure I don't make it loose.
I have the same problem as you with the Saphires I have. I have 3 boxes of them sitting on my counter. Either they wick too well and juice ends up in the atty chamber and goes up the air chamber (doesn't make it to my mouth) or don't wick well enough and have to be primed and before the tank is empty the juice left in the juice side of the tank starts to turn brown. I have spent almost $50 (7 boxes) on Saphires since they were released. Some worked good for 4-6 fills and the others didn't work well even on the 1st fill. I am sure Chris/Dan will take care of me once the Saphires are truely fixed as they both are good people but until then I am not spending a penny more. I am back to dripping using my BE112 atties and the dual coils as they both work consistently.
It amazes me how these Chinese factories don't do their research and really test their products well before releasing them. They instead rely on venders like GotVapes and us vapers to find ways of fixing what never should have been relased for sale in the 1st place. Chris/Dan have been great taking the time and time=money to get the Saphires and other cartos improved but in the end these factories are getting their products perfected for free and that is not right or fair. I would love to see an American or European company start making e-cigg products that are throughly tested and quality built that work perfectly out of the box. Yea they will cost more but to have products that work and last is worth it. Spending almost $50 to get a product that doesn't work well out of the box is certainly not cost effective. I am done ranting.
I don't know if this will be of any help with the over-wicking issue, but it seems like the seal of the little plug could be a factor. One time I forgot to put the little plug back in at all, and the first hit resulted in nearly all the juice going up the air tube and then draining out the bottom. Perhaps when they're over-wicking or leaking out the bottom the little plug isn't completely seated. Just a thought. I haven't experimented with it, since I'm not fond of the sapphires anyway. Mine are working fine, but they fall short in vapor and flavor compared to the CE2s.
As far as I can tell, these saphires are an all in one tank ATTY. Once perfected, if still at that cost..its unbeatable for those that like the "T" type vapor, as far as value. But I was certain all was good and perfected on my last batch. Until I got these. Now, Im not going to give up on them, as I think they will be back in business once the wicking thing is cured and the factory has found its sweet spot. I'm convinced thats all it is, just inconsistant or over flowing wick. The system itself is a pretty darn good little setup when its working right. I dont care much for being a test rat...but its common practice it seems. I just dont get why they changed the last batch. They worked great. I couldnt tinker with them at all without destroying them, but they worked great, and I was content with em as is.
well first new sapphire appears almost done, i been blowing it out, but now it just clogs up very quick, just too much hassle to have to pull these apart and dryburn them every 3 tank fuls. plus i lost one of the rubber stoppers which everyone laughed at me when i said that was a problem. i don't lose any in the other cartomizers, but then they aren't clear little pieces of rubber that bounce out of your hands.
Hate to be dense about this but for a Sapphire I see no atomizer. I see a metal fitting that screws to batt. I see plastic type tube. I see a joint of types where the metal and plastic type material come together. I see no heating coil that some might call an atomizer. I see within the plastic type tube liquid that I placed there. It is unvaped. I don't know, maybe that is a big puddle as I start. So - are you saying that you see leaking from between the plastic tube and the metal (that has within it the heating coil) at the bottom of the Sapphire? I find - sometimes, but not always - liquid on the metal of the battery that is "below" (if in vertical position with Sapphire on top and battery on bottom) the joint of the plastic type material of the Sapphire. But when I see the sometime leak situations and unscrew the Sapphire and look at the metal and plastic joint of Sapphire - I see not clear evidence of leak at that joint. My question - how did that liquid observed on batt get there presuming it did not come from the joint between the plastic tube and the metal fitting/atomizer of the Sapphire?
A step further - presume there is leaking. What (specifically) does one fix to prevent leaking?
Odd at times - it seems to me - individuals end up being individual. On CE2s vs Sapphires, I, individually, come to the opposite conclusion. That is, CE2s fall short in vapor and flavor compared to the Sapphires!
Go figure!
Okay, so I just retested a CE2 and a sapphire with the same juice. The difference in vapor production is actually negligible. But the flavor for me is definitely better with the CE2. I think it's the warmth of the vapor that adds to the sensation of taste for me.
Okay, so I just retested a CE2 and a sapphire with the same juice. The difference in vapor production is actually negligible. But the flavor for me is definitely better with the CE2. I think it's the warmth of the vapor that adds to the sensation of taste for me.
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Just about every Atty on the market, and Carto will have a small drop or two that can come out from the bottom hole of the center pin, ! not a big deal it happens. Show me one Atty that has 2,4 slots on the bottom and a center hole that doesn't leak when eliquid settles ? there isn't one that I know of, and really there cant be how there built, they must breath and with that you will get a drop or two at times where the Atty/Carto meet the batt connector. I believe that's all that's happening here. unscrew Atty/carto, wipe clean re-install, done deal.
Just about every Atty on the market, and Carto will have a small drop or two that can come out from the bottom hole of the center pin, ! not a big deal it happens. Show me one Atty that has 2,4 slots on the bottom and a center hole that doesn't leak when eliquid settles ? there isn't one that I know of, and really there cant be how there built, they must breath and with that you will get a drop or two at times where the Atty/Carto meet the batt connector. I believe that's all that's happening here. unscrew Atty/carto, wipe clean re-install, done deal.
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the metal thing on the bottom is the atomizer, if you took it apart you would see the coil.
liquid goes through the wick to the coil where it gets vaporized and then comes up the side tube as vapor. if the liquid doesn't get all vaporized it puddles up in the bottom metal area and leaks out. you can tell its going to leak if you look at the air side of the tube, you will see liquid starting to come up there. not long after that it will leak out. further, I find it very very hard for someone to get liquid in that side tube, its almost always going to come up from the bottom after not getting vaporized.
liquid goes through the wick to the coil where it gets vaporized and then comes up the side tube as vapor. if the liquid doesn't get all vaporized it puddles up in the bottom metal area and leaks out. you can tell its going to leak if you look at the air side of the tube, you will see liquid starting to come up there. not long after that it will leak out. further, I find it very very hard for someone to get liquid in that side tube, its almost always going to come up from the bottom after not getting vaporized.
nope sorry, this is liquid dripping down the battery onto your fingers, over the switch, onto the dog, etc. Okay, exaggerated a little, it hasn't got on the dog yet.
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