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OptimoMuffin

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Joye 510-T from Cignot. My "budget" right now is, "See how much change is in the sofa" so I was looking for inexpensive. Also didn't yet want to get too far from the "cig-a-like". I know a lot of folks don't care for them but there's a... call it "psychological" thing involved with me. Like I put an "ashtray" next to the computer where the actual ashtray used to sit. Let the Blu rest in it. It's... fooling myself? But it works. I did a lot of smoking without thinking about it much at all while working at the computer. Now when I reach half consciously for that spot, it's vapor not tobacco.

(Heh, caught myself "flicking ashes" a few times even.)

'Course, everybody's different. I started as a "pleasure smoker" and still actually like it. Even though it tuned into addiction and rote habit, I still liked it those times I got to sit and smoke (as opposed to working at the computer and using cigs as a nicotine delivery device). "Form factor" may be completely meaningless to you while it's damn near critical for me.

If "shape" don't matter, get the big batteries. Blu batteries will drive you up a wall. They're only about 90 mAh if I recall. Maybe 80. Based on the rule of thumb that 100 mAh = 1 hour (roughly), you're talking 45 minutes maybe? Try switching batteries while driving. Okay, actually, don't try switching batteries while driving. :)

I have caught myself ashing my blu and other e cigs as well haha.

But yeah the blu batteries do drive me up the wall. especially when the cartridge is getting older but still has lots to come, and you really have to prime and suck for a long time to get barely satisfctory vapor... i feel like it lasts 20 minutes sometimes. I think I'm going to head to modern vapor or hot vapes tomorrow and get an ego rip off so I can steadily rip and get a lot of vapor.
 

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I just think Blu flavors suck because it seems like they all try to emulate real tobacco and its disgusting. If i'm going to inhale something that is supposed to taste like tobacco it will be burning tobacco not tobacco flavored vapor. Blu is all about emulating cigarettes, NOT vaping. I love nicotine, not analogs, so Blu isn't my favorite.

You've tried them all yet or just the sampler with the kit or some combination?

I came to like the "Classic Tobacco" actually. And the "Java Jolt" if you could ever get one to produce ANY vapor. Sheesh. Their peach... whatever it is, I can't stand. Became surprisingly fond of their cherry ("Crush"?) and vanilla whazit. Not at first though. I smoked menthol cigs for years but came to not like menthol vaping. Go figure.
 

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There are at least a couple of vape shops in Chicago. If you can, they are a good place to visit and learn about your many options. As others have said, ego twists are a good place to start while you explore the many options.

They "let" you vape on the el, or you chose to? Either way, that's pretty cool. :)
 

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I have caught myself ashing my blu and other e cigs as well haha.

But yeah the blu batteries do drive me up the wall. especially when the cartridge is getting older but still has lots to come, and you really have to prime and suck for a long time to get barely satisfctory vapor... i feel like it lasts 20 minutes sometimes. I think I'm going to head to modern vapor or hot vapes tomorrow and get an ego rip off so I can steadily rip and get a lot of vapor.

Me, I found an inexpensive pass through for home so I could plug in and not worry about batteries. The Blu's a 510 so there's compatible stuff all over.

Except batteries. Blu has reverse polarity of just about everybody else and you could blow the battery and the charger if you use somebody else's with the Blu batteries.

(At least in the basic Blu which I believe is all Walgreen's sells. Least that's true down here.)

Except Volcano. These:

Volcano E-Cigarette Accessories

The original Volcano and the Blu are essentially the same device. Volcano told me the batteries will work with Blu chargers but that'll void the Volcano warranty. On the other hand, they're discontinuing that model and are blowing out the stock anyway. So I ordered a couple.

(Then decided to dump the Blu before they even got here. Yeah, where's that "budget" now Mark? Hmmm?)
 

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You've tried them all yet or just the sampler with the kit or some combination?

I came to like the "Classic Tobacco" actually. And the "Java Jolt" if you could ever get one to produce ANY vapor. Sheesh. Their peach... whatever it is, I can't stand. Became surprisingly fond of their cherry ("Crush"?) and vanilla whazit. Not at first though. I smoked menthol cigs for years but came to not like menthol vaping. Go figure.

I'm puffin on the Java Jolt right now, the amount of vapor is so minuscule its funny, and it drains the battery cuz i suck so long just to get a baby puff. I'm a menthol smoker and the menthol was good and had good vape. But the cherry made me want to throw up which is interesting because anyone I've talked to liked cherry. I just gave it to my roommate who loved it and ended up breaking my extra battery... The day I got it.
 

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As I mentioned before, you have a lot of cartridge options. Right now, I'm vaping Jet Apple Medley. It's an apple hookah flavor. There's not much point in ordering another cigalike, if you have a working kit.

If you want a better vaping experience at home. Move up to an ego style. I personally like the JC Vea. It blows away any mini for $60 shipped. Johnson Creek products are made in Wisconsin.
Volcano Inferno is also highly rated. I would avoid a generic kit. It may seem cheaper. But when there's problems you're out of luck.

I usually prefer non tobacco flavors. I tend to mix it up to not get bored. As an ex cigar smoker. The last thing I want, is something that tastes like a Kool or Camel.

It's worth spending $20, for a box of Peach Schnapps & Pina Colada. They are about as far from tobacco flavor as it gets.
The cartridges that came with your kit were probably stale.
Java Jolt & Vanilla are awful. I can imagine what menthol tastes like.
Classic Tobacco is really pipe tobacco. Cherry Crush also has a soft tobacco finish. I can see why you didn't like them.
The cartridges you get off the website are usually fresh.

Volcano is redesigning their cartos. Which is kudos to them because they suck. They're a good company and offer a lot of support. If you want an extra PCC or batteries. Volcano hardware is exactly the same as Blu for half the price. I use the Inferno case for my Vea and it rocks.

It seems like you want to keep things simple.
People will tell you to order separate pieces to save a few bucks.
The advantage of ordering products from a well know vendor.
Is that when something breaks or you need support.
They will back it up with a one year warranty.

My next device is going to be a 777 E Hookah.
My girlfriend is warming up to it.
Imagine how much fun our house parties will be!
 
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Welcome Paxon and best wishes for a successful vaping journey!! It's great that you'll be smoke free at such a young age. :)

My one tip of advice would be....never throw away any juice. No matter how bad it tastes to you, it may just need time to "steep", or somebody else may like it or your tastes may change and you'll end up liking it in a month or two.

Please keep us posted on what you end up getting as your next step up from the Blu. And have fun sampling juices!!
 

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Welcome Optimo !
You found the right place to hang with ECF.

ejuice has four ingredients as StacyJaxx sez: PG,VG,Flavorings and Nic.
the more VG...the bigger clouds of Vapor, more PG=more throat hit.
My tip: PG and VG are hygroscopic, they attract water= they dry you out.
Drink plenty of cold water when you vape !!!!
Plus- it helps flush out the old toxins in the ciggies from you.

Your a menthol person...the vaping transition should be easier for you.
When looking at juice's look for menthol....or Ice- which is kinda like a 'mint'...cool on the exhale.

Vaping is a little different than smoking...you inhale in the mouth and exhale through the mouth and nose.
Most of the nic is absorbed through the mouth and nose...not the deep lung blood vessels like smoking.

Glad to have ya on the big vaping wagon.
 

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I'm puffin on the Java Jolt right now, the amount of vapor is so minuscule its funny, and it drains the battery cuz i suck so long just to get a baby puff. I'm a menthol smoker and the menthol was good and had good vape. But the cherry made me want to throw up which is interesting because anyone I've talked to liked cherry. I just gave it to my roommate who loved it and ended up breaking my extra battery... The day I got it.

Yeah, Java Jolt. Liked what puff I got out of the cartridge. When I finally got it out.

Yeesh.

Lissen, being I'm still new (two weeks... ish?), I'm not an expert so my suggestion is don't "jump" to buy other stuff too fast. If you can get by with the Blu, go with it. Hang out here and learn about this "vaping" thing. The flavor options are freaking endless. But you don't want to rush from one kit to another or you'll just waste money.
 

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Welcome Paxon and best wishes for a successful vaping journey!! It's great that you'll be smoke free at such a young age. :)

My one tip of advice would be....never throw away any juice. No matter how bad it tastes to you, it may just need time to "steep", or somebody else may like it or your tastes may change and you'll end up liking it in a month or two.

Please keep us posted on what you end up getting as your next step up from the Blu. And have fun sampling juices!!

I needed to stop now since i started smoking at like 14, and I loved vaping from my first disposable e cig so I was sold.

I still have yet to buy an actual bottle of e juice, but Im getting a tank thing (?) for my blu that was suggested on this thread so I'll be trying some soon!! anyone have a first timer recommendation?
 

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I would try Mojito Mint & Apple Medley from Jet.
They just started selling juice.
You can get small bottles from them for around $5.
Their juice is made in Pennsylvania.
Their cartridges are also incredible.

Johnson Creek juices are also very good.
Since you like cherries. They have 2 juices that are naturally cherry flavored. Without a tobacco finish like Cherry Crush.
Black Cherry & Ranier are both delicious!
 

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There are 4 main delivery systems for e-cigs. I'll list a few advantages/disadvantages of each, and a brief description.

Dripping
Dripping is basically having an atomizer attached to your battery, and you drip 2-3 drops of liquid onto the atomizer. Fire up the battery and draw. Rebuildable atomizers (RBA's) are designed so that they can be easily disassembled and re-wicked and coiled (requires some research to do properly).

Advantages: Truest flavor of the juice possible, as there is nothing to interfere with the flavor aside from the atomizer itself. A very good option for testing new flavors to see if you will like them without wasting much juice filling a carto, clearo or tank.

Disadvantages: You can't drip on the go. Each 2-3 drops might produce about 5-6 decent draws then you have to drip again, rinse and repeat. Best left till you have more experience with RBA (rebuildable atomizers) and/or you do it at home when you have nothing better to do such as watching a movie or whatever. EDIT: RBA's with a tank setup negate this problem, that is related to strictly dripping directly onto the atomizer.

Cartomizer
A metal tube, filled with a polyfill batting that absorbs the nicotine juice, wrapped around a wicking material. The wicking material brings the juice to the atomizer, which is heated by the battery to vaporize the juice.

Advantages: Small, portable, pretty inexpensive. Easy to carry multiple flavors of juice with you so you can swap flavors to suit you at any time, just unscrew the other carto and attach a different one. If you don't overfill, a cartomizer will not leak as all the juice is absorbed in the polyfill batting.

Disadvantages: You don't know how much juice you have left in a cartomizer for certain. Can easily burn the wicking material or polyfill batting if you draw too hard or there is not enough juice in the cartomizer. This results in a heavy 'burnt' taste, and often will ruin the carto. They have limited refilling capacity before the atomizer burns out (if you get that far) before they have to be disposed of. Good quality cartos can often have 30mL or perhaps a bit more juice run through them before dying out, but they have to be cleaned to get that far. Cleaning is relatively simple.

Clearomizer
This is a small tank design usually, which has a wicking system. The wick can be made of several materials (cotton, silica, and a few others). Some are rebuildable, others are not. Top coil clearomizers have the atomizer at the top, and wicks hang down toward the bottom. This produces a warmer vape, but can result in wicking problems with heavier (VG = vegetable glycerin) juices. Bottom coil clearos have a much shorter wick, and the atomizer is at the bottom. This results in a cooler vape (which some prefer) and often less wicking problems as the juice is always present near the bottom.

Advantages: Often the flavor is stronger in a clearo as there is no muting from polyfill to affect the flavor. Easy to fill and clean, store a decent amount of juice. Clearos (often) aren't that big so it's easy to carry a few flavors with you, but they are still larger than cartomizers and have the potential to leak. Most are clear-ish so you know how much juice you have left, which you don't with a cartomizer. Come in some variety (mostly colored) but not overly customizable.

Disadvantages: Can leak on some models easily, there can be wicking problems especially with the heavier VG juices leading to a burnt taste. Not all clearos are designed to be rebuildable, but most have an option to replace the head. Can crack with some strong acidic juices (cinnamon is a known culprit).

Tanks
A tank, or carto tank, is basically a cartomizer surrounded by an exterior storage device so you can hold more juice. The cartomizer is punched, to allow the juice in the tank portion to slowly feed into the cartomizer and replenish it as you use it up. The tank materials can be metal, glass, polycarbonate, pyrex..etc.

Advantages: Holds more juice than any other delivery system, though there are mini tanks that are smaller than some clearomizers...generally tanks are larger. They often have better sealing systems on them so they are less prone to leak than a clearomizer given proper usage. Gives a pretty true flavor with good liquid storage. Tanks are more suitable for flavors you really enjoy so you don't have to refill as often. Come in a variety of styles and designs, easy to customize.

Disadvantages: You have the advantages and disadvantages of a cartomizer. You can still burn up a cartomizer even inside a full tank if you didn't soak the cartomizer with juice previously (called priming), or if the holes punched in the cartomizer are not suitable for the juice you are using in the tank. Heavier juices require more holes to wick enough fluid into the cartomizer so that it doesn't burn up. Requires a small bit of knowledge to use a tank properly, but not any kind of difficult. Often requires a needle fill bottle or syringe to fill some styles of tanks. If it leaks, because tanks hold more juice it's that much more mess.

This is pretty general information, but hope it helps to give you an idea of things you can work with. Welcome to ECF bud.
 
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I would try Mojito Mint & Apple Medley from Jet.
They just started selling juice.
You can get small bottles from them for around $5.
Their juice is made in Pennsylvania.
Their cartridges are also incredible.

Johnson Creek juices are also very good.
Since you like cherries. They have 2 juices that are naturally cherry flavored. Without a tobacco finish like Cherry Crush.
Black Cherry & Ranier are both delicious!

I think I'm going to order some jet juices
 

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Carto tanks and cartos should be the same category - a carto tank after all is just a clever way of putting juice into the carto. Its the carto that deliver the juice.

I think the Genesis style needs a separate category. Also there are tank systems, like the eGo-T

Except that the cartos used in tanks are punched. Some of them are flanged to lock into the tank. And not wrapped on the exterior so it's just steel which would get hotter on your lips.
 

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Except that the cartos used in tanks are punched. Some of them are flanged to lock into the tank. And not wrapped on the exterior so it's just steel which would get hotter on your lips.

None of which majorly affects the delivery process. Think about how juice is evaporated in cartos and carto tanks and you will see.
 
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