New UFS Leaking?

[imeothanasis]

you dont need 1x2 but 2x1 o-ring aruga

UFS o-rings are the same as GGTS's o-rings inside connectors. The prossedure you follow with your wife was the right one but you need 1 more o-ring.

I cant post a link for o-rings because I dont know any link like this aruga, sorry. But someone here will help you soon, no worries

 

[aruga]

Thanks Imeo. Glad we did it correctly. Is there an easier way. I
t is really hard to stretch the O ring around the firing pin since it down a bit in the main base???

Should I pull the pin from the GGTS and use the) rings in the UFS?
Is that my best move at this point?
Also can you use 3 O rings three instead of two just to be sure.

Thank again

 

[fright88]

Hello
Imeo and thanks for the fast response. Really appreciate it! Nice to meet you.
To answer your question.......
I replaced the small 0 ring (2mmX1mm) with the help of my wife. We used a small pin too stretch it around the firing pin then slid it down to the base. So I am only using 1 O ring. Could that be the problem? I mean it leaks alot, just drips down the firing pin.
Looking at the SS GG TS I am scared to pull out the firing pin. It looks like the 0 ring inside the GGTS firing pin is a larger size.?
Am i incorrect? I am not very good at these things but
i try my best.
Also to confirm would these be the right replacement 0 rings?
1mm X 2 mm V75 Viton O-ring Black [V1.00X002] : The O-ring Store - Where you can find a huge selection of o-rings, hydraulic seals, o-ring kits and accessories!, We make placing your o-ring order and getting o-rings as easy as possible! Get the o-rin

If not could you post a link to the correct ones s I will probably order the incorrect O rings.

I really appreciate the responses so fast. Thank you. I am really lost and out alot of $$ I was sooo excited to recieve my UFS and its heart stopping that I cant use it. I even registered the serial on the wiki

Any more advice or tips?

Thanks again
Chris

Here are instructions on how to replace the mini 2mmx1mm o rings copied from another thread.

Take the whole pin assembly and plastic piece out. Take it all apart. There should be 3 o-rings, 1 larger and 2 tiny orings. Clean, inspect, and lube the orings. Start with the pin, put on the larger o-ring, then the flat metal nut, and then the 2 tiny o-rings. After you push those to the base of the pin, put on the plastic piece. You may have to work it past the tiny o-rings. Screw the plastic piece and the flat metal nut hand tight as hard as you can without stripping. There should now be resistance on the pin, but it should still slide up and down. Now screw the whole unit into the UFS and you should be good to go.

The assembly of the GGTS connector cap is pretty much the same thing however if you don't want to risk it you can order some 2mmx1mm o rings I ordered a 25 pack here
McMaster-Carr

 

[aruga]

Hello again all

I did what was advised and did a test and it still leaked out through the firing pin. I attached some pics to make sure I am doing this correctly. I used 2 O rings and definitely noticed a difference in the feel of the firing pin but is still all leaked out. The pin was dripping liquid
When I recieved the UFS today the plastic piece was in the position it is now and the O rings were on top. The first pic shows where I have the O rings and the next pic is when they are pressed down.
The 3rd and 4th pic show a Joye 510 LR atty attached.
And the 5th is the base unit.

I have tried other attys and carts as I mentioned before all with the same result. I even used the 1.25 LR carto that Bruce gave me with the UFS today and it leaks with everything I use.

I could cry. What is going wrong.

Look forward to some responses because I have no clue what to do?

 

[Zoranth]

You need to put the 2x 2mm x 1mm o-ring like I show them in this illustration as Item #4

 

[keduco]

You are putting the two o-rings in the wrong place. The silver hex shaped piece and the plastic piece need to be unscrewed...the o-rings go in between these two pieces...then screw the pieces together....then screw the whole assembly into the connector. Here is a good diagram which shows the correct orientation of the parts - UFS EXPLODED VIEW

 

[aruga]

Thank you.

I am trying that now. Bruce sent it to me the way I showed in the pics. Thats why I thought it was correct...

I am having difficulty unscrewing the plastic and hexagonal piece. It feels like they are glued together.

Even my wife thinks they are glued. Is there an easy way to unscrew them. I hate to sound dumb but I have cranked and cranked and they wont budge?

I will keep trying. I am going to email and PM Bruce aswell.

Look foward on advice on how to unscrew this plastic piece.

Thanks all.

 

[Zoranth]

They are not glued together.

You need 2 things. A 10mm Socket and a Rubber Band.

Wrap the rubber band around the Black Plastic part, this will give you something to grab a hold of.
Use the 10mm socket (by hand) and turn the Center Post Hex Nut (Item 3) counter clockwise to loosen. If you are still having a problem, carefully use a pair of pliers on the portion of the plastic part you wrapped with the rubber band to hold onto it while turning the socket counter clockwise.

 

[aruga]

got it.. It was just on super tight.. Am trying now.. Will post results in a few...
this thing was sent to me all messed up.

 

[aruga]

You guys are great.

Its working.. Well not leaking.. I have some gurgling and tasting some fluid going on but the problem is fixed.
I am now going to do some research and how to fine tune this thing.

To recap since I took apart my GGTS firing pin I will need too get O rings because 2 go on there aswell correct?

Thanks again everyone. I would not have had a chance without you !!!!
Sincerely
Chris

 

[Zoranth]

Yes, as illustrated in the drawing. The assembly order is pretty much the same for the GGTS except it probably will not have the one listed as Item #2 in the drawing as it is not needed for just the GGTS

 

[Major]

Be assured there is no reason to feel "dumb" over being new to a GG product. As you see, we have a wealth of experience and knowledge of users ready and capable of helping with almost any issue.

I still find it amazing how through text only, 99% of the issues users face can be diagnosed and resolved with the talent the GG foums have. Amazing stuff guys!

 

[aruga]

I just wanted to thank everyone again for helping me out with my problem. With the 2 O rings in the correct place there has not been any more leaking.
This forum is the best I have seen and the GG users really are amazing helpful as Major just stated. I am glad I am a GG owner.

Now I just need to figure out how to use the UFS. I have watched all the videos and read all about "flooding" and every time I use it I flood it. I know it takes a bit of getting use to but I must ask. From a beginner UFS user, is it easier to learn with a carto or atty. I have flooded both, equal amounts of times. Any advice would really be appreciated.

What is making me frustrated is that I fill the tank with the air ring completely closed, and the juice control totally closed. Then I turn the juice control a notch at a time, and as soon as I hear the atty/carto engage I stop and try it and it floods.

Last question. When I flood an atty, I have noticed the easiest way to fix that is to blow the liquid out the top mouth piece through the 4 holes on the air ring. But when a carto is flooded what is the easiest way to un-flood it?

I will keep researching, reading, watching videos and practicing but I am hoping I may get a response here that puts things in place. As of now I can only use my Alpha Mod because I have a belly ache from sucking down liquid. I have probably wasted 15 ml so far, and I am not filling the tank up much at all. Just so may flooded attempts I lost track.

Thanks again everyone.
Aruga

 

[fright88]

One of the easiest things IMHO to do wrong with the UFS is the filling/assembly if you mess up there it almost always turns out bad so here is some advice.

When you attach the atty or carto either loosen the battery on the GGTS or remove the ufs completely. If the battery is tight it will push the pin up to far and the atty will not connect all the way.

Once the battery is lose or UFS is removed pull pin out slightly and open the juice controll all the way (turn clockwise.) Screw atomizer or carto down completely and fairly tight.

Once the atomizer or carto is on close juice controll completely (counter clockwise). Also push the pin in to make contact with the atty and at this stage I normally also double check that air controll is completely closed.

Assemble UFS the rest of the way if it isn't already minus the top cap and top metal piece.

With the juice and air controlls fully closed fill the tank.

Once tank is filled put on the top piece then the o ring then the top cap. Tighten top cap snug then back it off and lightly screw it back. Once it meets resistance is when I stop.

Now that you are assembled put the UFS on the GGTS.

Once I have it completely assembled I open the juice conroll about 1/4 to half a turn and take a couple primer puffs to see if any juice is getting in. If not I open the juice controll about 1/8 a turn and try again. If juice gets in at this point vape like normal. If you come across frequent dry hits open the juice controll a tiny bit and keep adjusting untill you no longer get dry hits. However if you start flooding the atty back it back off.

Hope this helps. If you find that you are flooding the atty using this assembly methos even with the juice controll fully closed you might try another atty or carto. I will usually tear mine down and verify there is no visable gaps between the atty and juice controll.


One thing to note for me with cartos for some reason if I flood and try to blow juice out even with the juice controll completely closed I end up draining the tank. I think this happens because even with the juice controll completely closed juice can still leak into the atty or carto. So instead I ue a q tip. If I flood the carto I pop off my drip tip and use a q tip to soak up the extra juice pooled at the top. Because of the nature of the design you may have to do this multiple times since excess juice can and will run back into the overflow tank.

 

[aruga]

Thank you. I will try that and make sure the firing pin is not blocking my atty. I need an 510 extension for theses short attys. I hope Bruce sells them. Anyone know where else to get them so its GG compatible.

Thanks again for the tips fright88
Aruga

 

[fright88]

Thank you. I will try that and make sure the firing pin is not blocking my atty. I need an 510 extension for theses short attys. I hope Bruce sells them. Anyone know where else to get them so its GG compatible.

Thanks again for the tips fright88
Aruga

Bruce is out of atty extenders. Unless you want to make one like the one Para made or try a universal you might just have to use the UFS in small mode for now. The ones Bruce had in the past also required the screw on mouth piece though.

Also Imeo is working on a new atty extender and mouthpiece that will be a little more adjustable so you might want to hold off on buying anything if you can handle short mode for a month or 2.

 

[aruga]

Thanks for the response. Not wanted I wanted to hear. I am not technical enough to make my own unfortunately.
I vape at high volts so I made need to make some battery orders bc 2 Rc123a 3.2 or 3.7 wont fit in short mode right? What is the highest volt battery that can be used in short mode?

Anyone else know where to get a 510 atty extender that is GG compatible? Right now i am using a tip that is reaching the atty, I just cant turn it upside down or it will leak

And for some good news I have finally stopped flooding the attys and have started to enjoy the UFS. Thanks to you all for getting it working and getting me working. I cant say thank you enough!!!

Now one last quest to conquer on an atty extender and I will be set.
Aruga

 

[aruga]

Would this work?
510 Battery Extension

 

[fright88]

When I said short mode I was referring to the ufs not ggts.

If you look at your ufs above the window piece are 3 metal pieces. One piece threads onto the window one piece goes on top of that and the last piece is the small ring that goes over the o ring. To get small mode you remove the above the window and screw the next piece directly o to the window. That makes the ufs short enough to accommodate a standard length atomizer.

Thanks for the response. Not wanted I wanted to hear. I am not technical enough to make my own unfortunately.
I vape at high volts so I made need to make some battery orders bc 2 Rc123a 3.2 or 3.7 wont fit in short mode right? What is the highest volt battery that can be used in short mode?

Anyone else know where to get a 510 atty extender that is GG compatible? Right now i am using a tip that is reaching the atty, I just cant turn it upside down or it will leak

And for some good news I have finally stopped flooding the attys and have started to enjoy the UFS. Thanks to you all for getting it working and getting me working. I cant say thank you enough!!!

Now one last quest to conquer on an atty extender and I will be set.
Aruga

 

[aruga]

Brilliant!!. This thing is great and I keep learning new things it can do every day. I did what you advised and works perfectly. Now I can turn it anyway I want and want drop fluid.
Thank you so much!!! I really appreciate your wisdom.

I really want an extender and am hoping someone will confirm my link or suggest another.
Aruga