You can't go wrong with a provari, I own a standard and a mini. As far as mechanical mods go I wouldn't say stay away. Maybe for a new vapor it's not a great starter but I use my brothers ggts more than my provari. Mech mods are unregulated but if you use rebuildables they are a must in my book. Especially genesis attys. personally I won't even put a genny on my provaris because of the amp limit. This of course is personal preference but a lot of people end up using mech mods after they went through all the steps. The provari is a great pv but if your trying to get your mom to use an ecig it is probably not the best option. New vapers especially women don't like to carry around a big bulky apv. For her I would suggest a cheap ego twist
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You can't go wrong with a provari, I own a standard and a mini. As far as mechanical mods go I wouldn't say stay away. Maybe for a new vapor it's not a great starter but I use my brothers ggts more than my provari. Mech mods are unregulated but if you use rebuildables they are a must in my book. Especially genesis attys. personally I won't even put a genny on my provaris because of the amp limit. This of course is personal preference but a lot of people end up using mech mods after they went through all the steps. The provari is a great pv but if your trying to get your mom to use an ecig it is probably not the best option. New vapers especially women don't like to carry around a big bulky apv. For her I would suggest a cheap ego twist
I probably sound like a broken record, but why the hype about Provaries? With the price id rather get 3-4 mods with the same functions and see who lasts longer.
If you enjoy throwing your money away by all means. Thats what youre doing when you buy a PV thats disposable. In 2 years when all of them break youre left with nothing while mine will still be going strong.
I dont need 5 pvs as backups with a Provari and I never have to worry about it leaving me high and dry and wanting a cigarette.
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Until someone has a tried and true setup, their "go to" rig as it were, they should stay away from mchanical mods and rebuildables because of 1 reason, inconsistency. I'm willing to bet the main reason people quit vaping is because it's not being "cool" all of the time. Dry hits, clogged cartos, popping coils, leaking to name a few. That harsh or burnt taste we all remember reminds me of those rings around FSC cigarettes. It's not fair to lose newbies to Big Tobacco because they couldn't get the hang out of vaping off a car battery all because a GrimmGreen video made it look cool.(exaggerating)
The silver lining here is they can't lose, even if they go back to smoking, eventually they'll revisit vaping. And we can all agree this enviornment is changing every day, the tech will have matured even more and everyone wins. The fact they're here reading this right now tells me they have what it takes to be stinky stick free.
The key is to lock in a "go to" setup before venturing into RBA's, and mechanical mods. And 99% of go to setups include a provari, someone prove me wrong. The only people who get a pass were older vapers who got into it before protected vv devices like the provari existed imo.
The silver lining here is they can't lose, even if they go back to smoking, eventually they'll revisit vaping. And we can all agree this enviornment is changing every day, the tech will have matured even more and everyone wins. The fact they're here reading this right now tells me they have what it takes to be stinky stick free.
The key is to lock in a "go to" setup before venturing into RBA's, and mechanical mods. And 99% of go to setups include a provari, someone prove me wrong. The only people who get a pass were older vapers who got into it before protected vv devices like the provari existed imo.
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What Zapped said. I challenge anyone to find a variable voltage APV that is machined as well, is as durable, is as consistant, is as safe, just plain works everytime. If you can find a better PV than the Provari, then buy it.Find me a mod made in China that can be fixed after warranty. Provape gives you a long warranty with the Provari, offers to extend that warranty more, and then offers to repair your Provari when either warranty runs out. That is what makes owning a Provari special. Peace of mind that you don't have to keep replacing your PV every 6-8 months with a new one.
Some people don't mind replacing their mods frequently. And to them, luck be with them. When you buy a PV that is made in China it's a gamble on how long it will last you. But if you get tired of that and start to want something that will last you years, or at least something that can get repaired should it break, then the Provari is the top choice.
Yeah, you'll pay more for a Provari, but it's worth it over time. Buy once, cry once. Regret it - never.
If that's the way you want to spend your money, go right ahead. I would rather have one great working mod that I can depend on every day, than have 3-4 iffy mods that might have wonky performance issues and likely won't last a year. But that's just me.Kanj.nguyen said:
I've been fortunate to be able to accumulate 5 quality mods over about 10 months since I've been vaping. The one that is my favorite, that is my "go-to" mod, the one that would be the first one that I replaced should I lose them, would be the Provari. It's been worth every penny to me.
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I respectfully disagree with the provari being the answer to a new vaper. For some it will work and work great. A lot of people don't want such a big pv. They want a thin stealthy option and the provari doesn't provide that.
And that's where REO comes in.
In all fairness, though, most ProVari owners do have eGo's or the equivalent for times when it's not practical to bring the ProVari. I have several eGo's. Of course, I've never found a time or place where a ProVari was impractical, but I still use and enjoy my eGo's and my Vamo (mainly because I switch flavors often, and it would be a pain to switch the one on the ProVari more than 5 or 6 times a day). As far as I'm concerned, stealth mode is turning the LED off on my ProVari.
EDIT: I agree, the ProVari is not for every new vaper. It's not even for most. Vaping does not work for everyone, and they need to learn this before they take the plunge. That's why an eGo twist is the most recommended PV to newbies.
But for the newbie who knows that he or she wants to commit to vaping, and wants a trouble free, long lasting, warrantied, and easy to use mod, it's almost impossible to beat the ProVari. The REO comes very close, and I would say equals the ProVari, but the ProVari has the edge in the warrenty.
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So a Mini Provari is a big PV? Compared to a what?
An eGo Twist? 
Which ones of the above will more easily fit a pocket or purse?
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I would suggest that you start off with an ego their not that expensive the batteries last a good amount of time and they work well,before trying out a mod.
I'd say get what you want. If you want a Provari, then get it. Don't waste your money with other stuff. Quality and warranty can't be beat.
As long as something is not run over by a truck, i can get it fixed for $10 or less (or free - mechanics friends are plenty) and it will be up and running in 3 days - an APV is not a rocket ship, fixing one is simple enough. With 2 backups, getting 1 fixed is a breeze. The rest of my money will go into the thing that really matters, the delivery system.
So, with very much respect to Zapped, Badtitude and others, i dont think getting a Provari is a good idea, especially for a new vaper at that.
I understand fully that the Provari is, as Pbusardo puts it, a premium device. However, my point is that in this case, the increase in price translates very little to the vape quality. Think a function with very small derivative. The increase in quality is present, but small enough that it is more suitable for a veteran looking for that next little edge.
So, with very much respect to Zapped, Badtitude and others, i dont think getting a Provari is a good idea, especially for a new vaper at that.
I understand fully that the Provari is, as Pbusardo puts it, a premium device. However, my point is that in this case, the increase in price translates very little to the vape quality. Think a function with very small derivative. The increase in quality is present, but small enough that it is more suitable for a veteran looking for that next little edge.
The pics are appreciated, Baditude. I couldn't help wondering if maybe the Provari wasn't as big as the impression of it that I was getting, and pictures of it that include human hands for reference are very useful. I was thinking it was much bigger in diameter than it is.
You're entitled to express your opinion, and I equally respect yours. However, I agree to disagree with them.
Provari's have been well known to have survived being run over by a dump truck, falling from a one story height onto concrete, being dunked into a swimming pool, and surviving an entire wash cycle in a washing machine...and all of them have continued to work fine. Hard to find another PV that is tough enough to survive all that punishment.
There are many people who will argue that their Provari's give them an appreciable better quality vape than other devices that they own, so don't discount their opinions. I can tell an appreciable difference in my five mods, and the vape quality from my Provari is hands down better than the others. I won't get into the reasons why I think that is so here, but it is my opinion.
If a new vapor does comparitive research, decides on a Provari and can financially afford one, I have no problem with them starting out with one.
Yeah, we're all waiting for Kanthal Corp. to put paid to that particular argument...er, discussion. And you forgot to mention the ProVari that fell into a cup of coffee and still worked...though that really doesn't compare to the dump truck incident.
That's one way to go about it. There's no "right way" to go about it, though. It depends upon your perspective, financial situation, and vape habits.
An eGo is not as durable as a mod that uses replaceable batteries. Their battery design allows them to be recharged an average of 250 times, and then performance drops off drastically, requiring replacement of the entire device.
Mods are much more durable because of their construction. The replaceable, rechargable batteries that they use last a year or more. When those batteries' performance dwindle, they are much cheaper to replace (less than $10) than an entire eGo. Their smaller batteries are easier to carry spares if needed to last all day. How many entire eGo's do you need to carry for an all day outing?
The other side of the coin has merit, too. The initial investment in an eGo setup is much less than one would need for a Provari setup. But if one is looking into vaping as a long term deal and can reasonably afford the Provari setup, the Provari choice seems a wiser one to me.
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I just cant justify the price of the provari. There is a local store near me that sells them for 270 with a vivi nova v1 included. But I still cant justify that much of a chunk of change. I ended up getting a Vivid variable voltage pass through battery that Im enjoying quite a bit.
Ummm... Yeah that is way overpriced. Is that a kit? Like do you get batteries? if not then yeah its 170 for the Provari and 100 for that Nova
There is no one fits all in this world. Some like one battery and some like one juice. It is all a matter of personal preference. That includes the high end devices like a provari. It is nice but is not necessary for a good vape experience.
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