New Variable Voltage device from smoktech?
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Dont like them myself, only use tanks with SC or DC. But then I know there are others who love feeders.
Until now my DC tanks I mainly used on some VV box mods, because other VV´s just couldn´t get the power out I wanted, nomather what PV, Buzz and Darwin people said.
Hope and know for sure this changes now with the Vmax. Some people I know got one and this thing is just terrific. lolol. But still have to wait another 10 days more to get mine. Right now they are making changes in the electronic and button at the factory because there where some problems.
All VVmax shipped from next week on from China will be version 1.1 with these problems fixed.
Until now my DC tanks I mainly used on some VV box mods, because other VV´s just couldn´t get the power out I wanted, nomather what PV, Buzz and Darwin people said.
Hope and know for sure this changes now with the Vmax. Some people I know got one and this thing is just terrific. lolol. But still have to wait another 10 days more to get mine. Right now they are making changes in the electronic and button at the factory because there where some problems.
All VVmax shipped from next week on from China will be version 1.1 with these problems fixed.
Someone new has two main problems. They don't even know whether vaping is what they want and it's not for everybody. In addition, they don't know how to vape. What they need is the simplest way to get an acceptable vape at the lowest cost. If they say cigarette sized, all you can do is recommend a Volt and let them know there's an alternative with more battery life. If they are willing to go up to an ego style, that's where they need to be. As far as simple goes, it's some cartos, some atomizers for sampling and a drip tip. No VV. No mega/CE/fluxo/clearo stuff. No bottom feeders either. All of that is for people that want something more. There are probably many more people out there satisfied with 808s and egos than there are using VV.
How do you know this? Can you please share a link for further info? What were the electronics/button problems?
Its information given by the factory to sellers in Europe. The problem where that in some units far more voltage was delivered then displayed. The button wasn´t fixed well at many units. No links, this was just information given why they didn´t ship for the last few days, because they where working to fix these problems. They are supposed to ship again in the next few days.
Many thanks fsroq, very useful info for me; I was just about to jump on one but will wait for v1. I wonder if there is any way of distinguishing the difference between the two versions, no doubt vendors will be trying to get rid of the first batch.
So in other words, the reason people say it hits harder than units like the Provari?
I concur. Having vaped for 11 days now and despite considering myself a little more technically adept than the average noob, I could not be happier with my 1st uncomplicated hardware purchase selection. I've remained analog free since day one (40 yr PAD addict). I opted for the new Smokeless Image X2 batteries and X2 clearomizers, essentially 808 threaded Stardusts. I made the mistake of also ordering and initially using XL cartomizers, also from SI. Well let me tell you, between my carto-filling/maintaining learning curve and the fact that I received what turned out to be some faulty cartos, I almost gave up the 1st day. Had vv variables been added to this mix I don't honestly know if I would have stuck with this. I endured vape after vape of bad, burnt, horrid tastes trying to figure out what was wrong or if in fact this was 'normal.' Thankfully I threw out the cartos, used the clearomizers instead and never looked back.
Another point is that is that you MUST have a decent backup in case of equipment failure. One of 2 batteries I ordered was faulty (SI immediately replaced it no fuss) and I would have been back on analogs during this early and sensitive period, had it been the only battery at hand. I'm not sure if someone starting out would want to spend the money for 2 vv devices off the bat to ensure a reliable backup. I know I wouldn't, before understanding if vaping was something I'd even take to. Going the volt/ego route provides for decent back-up cost options.
I'm already planning my next mod and indeed it will be a vv device. Do I consider the money already spent as 'thrown away?' Not in the least. The X2's will always serve as very decent/backup devices. I've essentially lived on ECF during the last 2 weeks in my quest to acquire more knowledge and I feel I'm pretty well versed now given the time I've spent researching. I would not have done anything differently had I known then what I know now, in respect to my initial purchases.
One more thing....I was fortunate enough to have attended a local vape meet recently where I got to sample some pretty fine mods and flavors. Where some that I tried 'better' than my setup? Yes. Were they THAT much better as to render my setup something less than a 'good vape?' Nope. In fact, I was surprised to see how well my lil' X2/clearomizer setup compared to the more expensive mods out there. Yes, I'm now at a point that I can appreciate the 'extra' that VV can provide an already good vape; I just don't think this difference is very significant to someone first starting out and can in fact complicate matters as the individual struggles to adapt, particularly if there's a problem with their vape.
Just to be clear, there would be no difference between this unit and the Buzz/Infinity Pro then as far as the vape goes?
I dont own a Buzz pro, but AFAIK they have less calibrated circuitry, and a lower amp limit, and work with lower amp batterys.
Dont want to enter in one of the many discutions I have seen here before, but think every details changed will make for another result.
You could take a LT, and put a BDL IMR 1400 Mah. bat in it, and compare it to the same LT with a AW IMR 2000, and it vapes completely diferent.
You take a madvapes box mod with TF flames and compare it to the same with IMR bats, and again the winner is the one with IMR bats.
But then, you take a Krimson evercool with IMR bats, and compare it with the madvapes with simple Flames bats, and madvapes 30$ box is the winner.
All metered with volt meter under load. same voltage, same carto but diferent vapor.
Now somebody will come and tell me it is all rubish I am talking about, Ohms law and themore, but this is what I personally found.
Dont want to enter in one of the many discutions I have seen here before, but think every details changed will make for another result.
You could take a LT, and put a BDL IMR 1400 Mah. bat in it, and compare it to the same LT with a AW IMR 2000, and it vapes completely diferent.
You take a madvapes box mod with TF flames and compare it to the same with IMR bats, and again the winner is the one with IMR bats.
But then, you take a Krimson evercool with IMR bats, and compare it with the madvapes with simple Flames bats, and madvapes 30$ box is the winner.
All metered with volt meter under load. same voltage, same carto but diferent vapor.
Now somebody will come and tell me it is all rubish I am talking about, Ohms law and themore, but this is what I personally found.
I do own a buzz pro. They have a very good regulator, excellent run time, maintain voltage right up until it is recharge time. I go through about 6.5 ml of eliquid between battery changes, using a 2.5 ohm carto at 4.5v.
Max power is 15w. The original provari v1 could reach that, but only at 6v. The new provari v2 traded a little total power at 6v in order to reach 14.5w capability over a wider range (a positive move); buzz pro can still take a 1.5 ohm to slightly higher voltage (higher current) but effectively the same.
Buzz ruggedness is famous.
The two batteries in a buzz pro are indeed smaller than the single large 18650 in boost vv, but the regulator is very efficient. Notcigs invented production vv, had it well before the other companies
Max power is 15w. The original provari v1 could reach that, but only at 6v. The new provari v2 traded a little total power at 6v in order to reach 14.5w capability over a wider range (a positive move); buzz pro can still take a 1.5 ohm to slightly higher voltage (higher current) but effectively the same.
Buzz ruggedness is famous.
The two batteries in a buzz pro are indeed smaller than the single large 18650 in boost vv, but the regulator is very efficient. Notcigs invented production vv, had it well before the other companies
Why is "lowest cost" such a critical factor for people who have been spending thousands of dollars a year on cigarettes?
Fair point. I'm also a huge believer in backup. I tend to recommend one of the lower cost Riva kits, or 808, depending on what a new person describes as their smoking pattern and wants.
I've been using vv mods a decent length of time, but still keep a little sd key ring as my own backup/stealth/hands-free, and sure as heck would not recommend my vvpv as a new person unit; keep the variables down, make things simple.
I've been using vv mods a decent length of time, but still keep a little sd key ring as my own backup/stealth/hands-free, and sure as heck would not recommend my vvpv as a new person unit; keep the variables down, make things simple.
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