New volt sealed auto batts

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Morandir835

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Orginally posted my findings in the Smokeless image thread, but since these are kr808's figured should also have the info here in the kr808 forum.

These tests were done with 2 volt "sealed" auto shorties with a volt carto at 3.4ohms. Hope no one minds I don't do videos, trying to save as many cameras as possible from my ugly mug.

How do these batts work? Instead of having a hole in the center of the post they have two smaller holes on the side. This doesn't make them unkillable by any means, but makes them much harder to kill. A slight overfill has no affect on them, but a major one could very easily still get juice into the batt itself.

Voltage output on battery 1 was 3.57v on load, and on the second was 3.61v on load. Both right in the range of fault tolerance, and they maintained this voltage until just before the end of life, last puff recorded as 3.23 on batt 1, and 3.21 on batt 2. Average run time of the batts were 175 minutes on batt 1, and 170 on batt two with chain vaping. This is higher than most gen 2 batts I've tried, but will note this is the highest ohm horizontal coil carto I've seen to date, and that does factor in. Each carto from the pack of blanks ranged between 3.3-3.5ohms, which was why I went with 3.4. Now for the big detail...

Draw- In comparison to an unsealed auto with 4 side intake holes the draw is much tighter. Some will prefer this. This one only has two holes around the collar, but even in comparison with an unsealed auto batt with only 2 holes it's still tighter. It's much more like a manual battery. What you give up in draw you gain in protection of the batt though.

For fans of the gen 2 batts with horizontal coils that either use the condom refilling method, or have a bad habit of overfilling, these are a must addition to your collection. Think of them more as a hybrid of an auto and manual batt though. They're not completely invincible from juice, but more resistant. The cost is you lose the added air flow a completely unsealed auto provides.
 

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Orginally posted my findings in the Smokeless image thread, but since these are kr808's figured should also have the info here in the kr808 forum.

These tests were done with 2 volt "sealed" auto shorties with a volt carto at 3.4ohms. Hope no one minds I don't do videos, trying to save as many cameras as possible from my ugly mug.

How do these batts work? Instead of having a hole in the center of the post they have two smaller holes on the side. This doesn't make them unkillable by any means, but makes them much harder to kill. A slight overfill has no affect on them, but a major one could very easily still get juice into the batt itself.

Voltage output on battery 1 was 3.57v on load, and on the second was 3.61v on load. Both right in the range of fault tolerance, and they maintained this voltage until just before the end of life, last puff recorded as 3.23 on batt 1, and 3.21 on batt 2. Average run time of the batts were 175 minutes on batt 1, and 170 on batt two with chain vaping. This is higher than most gen 2 batts I've tried, but will note this is the highest ohm horizontal coil carto I've seen to date, and that does factor in. Each carto from the pack of blanks ranged between 3.3-3.5ohms, which was why I went with 3.4. Now for the big detail...

Draw- In comparison to an unsealed auto with 4 side intake holes the draw is much tighter. Some will prefer this. This one only has two holes around the collar, but even in comparison with an unsealed auto batt with only 2 holes it's still tighter. It's much more like a manual battery. What you give up in draw you gain in protection of the batt though.

For fans of the gen 2 batts with horizontal coils that either use the condom refilling method, or have a bad habit of overfilling, these are a must addition to your collection. Think of them more as a hybrid of an auto and manual batt though. They're not completely invincible from juice, but more resistant. The cost is you lose the added air flow a completely unsealed auto provides.

I'm still vaping the stash of Volt cartomizers I bought several weeks ago, so I don't know if things have recently changed, but none of mine come in past the 3ohm range, all are still at the average of 2.5ohms.

But if newer Volt cartomizers are coming in higher than 3ohms, right there is reason enough for a stiff draw, and it would happen on all Volt batteries. Past 3ohms, you won't get enough amps from Volt batteries, or any 3.6V batteries, to provide a good vape, it will seem stiff because the eliquid isn't sufficently vaporized, not as warm or flavorful either.

I do not understand comparing the vape from autos with 4 side intake holes as I've never seen a Volt battery with 4 holes. All of my Volt batteries only ever have had 2 intake air holes. So whose batteries are you comparing to with 4 holes?

I ordered the new Volt battery as soon as I saw them on the website and hopefully will get it today, hoped it would get here yesterday but no joy. When it gets here, I'll be vaping it on my stash of Volt cartomizers, that I know are on the average of 2.5 ohms. If mine vapes fine, looks like I need to order a new pack of cartomizers to see if all of a sudden SI is getting higher-ohmed cartomizers. Will report back then.
 

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Higher Ohms don't equal stiffer draw Ms. Steeljan, less airflow does. Gen 1 kr808 batts (which are what I use 90% of the time, hence the comparison) have anywhere between 3 and 4 holes depending on the batt. The draw is much looser on those in comparison to gen 2's with 2 holes. As you see though made a direct comparison to a 2 holed kr808 gen 2 batt right afterwards, that way I'm comparing a one armed ginuea pig to another one armed ginuea pig instead of to a 7 tailed gerbil. Still viable info though.

If you take a v4l batt with a cool cart (3.3ohm avg) and a wow carto (2.3ohm avg) and compare the draw on the same batt with both the draw doesn't change. What does change is th and vapor production when using the same juice on both. What affects the draw in the sealed autos from volt is you replace a larger diameter hole in the center of the post that goes straight down the battery with two small holes on the side of the post at a 90 degree angle forcing the air to change direction and restricting the airflow.
 
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I got one of the new sealed auto Volts today. I haven't had a chance to use mine much yet, but so far, it's great. I like it. I also have an auto Volt PT (recent purchase) and an unsealed auto Volt that I bought two months ago. My sealed and unsealed Volt are both the longer 78mm length and both of those as well as the PT have two tiny holes on the sides. I used the same carto and switched it between the three of them and as far as I could tell, the draw was exactly the same on all three of them.

I checked and the only battery I have that has four holes is an X-long from Vapor4Life, and the draw on that one is actually tighter than it is on the Volts with two holes.
 

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Ealisaid...is the V4L batt auto or manual? Also...how long have you had it? Reason I ask is....over time the connector gets dirty and needs a good cleaning (the holes start to get clogged). I have both Volt and V4L batts....the V4L batts have always had a lighter draw on the autos. The holes are also bigger on the V4L batts than on the Volts allowing for more air passage.

With that said, the Volts do give a little more of a ciggie feel due to the tighter draw.
 

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Morandir835 -
For me, higher ohmed cartomizers have a tighter draw, they just do. Secondly, I figured out why your Volt cartomizers are measuring a higher ohms on your Provari, it's because you are using a 510-to-808 adapter to make them fit/work on the Provari. You really had me scratching my head on this one until I ran some tests and found that most of my 510-808 adapters add resistance.
 

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Ms. Steeljan measured the same with my multimeter, and every other carto I own that I test on both comes in the same plus or minus 0.1 ohm at the max, whether it be a 510 atty or carto, 808, or 901 atty. Factored in as well on the multimeter the resistance of the wires themselves, which was why it showed 3.6 ohms originally on the 3.4 ohm carto. My wife has offered to help getting a pic of it on the multimeter to show.

The only thing that has affected the draw for me carto wise is the packing of the filler material. Tighter it is, harder the draw and looser vice versa. Other than that it's all on the battery. :)
 
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Morandir835 -
For me, higher ohmed cartomizers have a tighter draw, they just do. Secondly, I figured out why your Volt cartomizers are measuring a higher ohms on your Provari, it's because you are using a 510-to-808 adapter to make them fit/work on the Provari. You really had me scratching my head on this one until I ran some tests and found that most of my 510-808 adapters add resistance.

Thanks for posting that. I was scratching my head trying to figure out why the vape on my Go-Go was much different to the eGo/Ego Booster/510-Go-Go adapter.
 
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