New Vs Old Atomizers

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RsL

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You guys made me curious. I just called the guy who placed our order. There were 12 of us all together. We placed 1 big order to get the best prices. Well, that was the plan anyway. My neighbor asked me for the link to Joye. I gave him the link I posted above. He said he filled out a form and would place the order as soon as they got back to him. He now says that he shopped at several places and doesn't remember where he placed our final order.

It's a shame he doesn't have an emailed invoice from who he ordered your 'new' attys from. ;)
 

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He probably does have the invoice in his email somewhere. He too is new to this. Along with about a dozen of my neighbors. We have all been putting every extra penny into supplies for our E-cigs just in case they get banned. I think I personally have placed at least 30 orders with various vendors for various supplies over the last 60 days. I don't even want to think about what I have spent. I guess the good news is what I haven't spent on analogs. We have just recently started trying to put all our orders together to try for some bulk discounts. (This was before I found out about the coupons for InnoVapor). Now I just put all my orders except for flavored juice through them. Anyway, lesson learned. Most of my parts are probably generic. So far they all work so that's all I care about.
 

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Good Evening Everyone!

I see that there are a lot of questions floating around.

I have spoken to Mark and since everyone seems to be liking the old style better we are going to be sending out orders with the SATIN BLACK ATOMIZERS (OLD STYLE)

If you would like the NEW atomizers please specify in your order that you want those instead.

The deal with the carts is as follows:

Carts fit all atomizers. If you use the carts on an OLD atomizer they will then NOT fit on the new atomizers. (new atomizers are slightly bigger)

If there are any other questions about this please email me or contact me through here.

HAPPY HAPPY vaping!!!!!

:evil:MILLS:evil:
 

mpetva

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Good Evening Everyone!

I see that there are a lot of questions floating around.

I have spoken to Mark and since everyone seems to be liking the old style better we are going to be sending out orders with the SATIN BLACK ATOMIZERS (OLD STYLE)

If you would like the NEW atomizers please specify in your order that you want those instead.

The deal with the carts is as follows:

Carts fit all atomizers. If you use the carts on an OLD atomizer they will then NOT fit on the new atomizers. (new atomizers are slightly bigger)

If there are any other questions about this please email me or contact me through here.
HAPPY HAPPY VAPING!!!!!
:evil:MILLS:evil:


I have faith in the integrity of InnoVapor ( I ordered even after reading about some of the problems), hang in there, chin up!

I sent you a PM since I can not seem to find your e-mail addy;).

Thanks,
Karen
 

jesstene

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When you order a 510, please select which atomizer you would like.

There is a drop down menu and you can select there, or put it in the comments.

This way everyone gets to personalize exactly what they would like!!!


I hope that this works for all you vapers!!

If there is anything else that I can do to help let me know


:evil:mills:evil:
 

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With everyone clamoring the way they are over someone developing "home-brewed" atomizers so we don't have to rely on products of differing qualities from overseas the thought of a new atomizer not produced by Joye was not received very well.

But only because it was/is presented as Joye hardware. If it had been presented as "third party" I doubt there'd be an issue.
 

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With everyone clamoring the way they are over someone developing "home-brewed" atomizers so we don't have to rely on products of differing qualities from overseas the thought of a new atomizer not produced by Joye was not received very well.

I never knew there were differing qualities from Joye's attys other than production variance. And from my own experience, I don't think these were home-brewed stateside. And if they were and marketed as Joye's 2nd gen atty's, I really doubt that it was produced for any other reason than a quick profit. My .02
 

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I have emailed Eastmall about my purchase and they are rectifying it by sending out replacements + 1 additional atty after receiving my return. They knew about the problems I spoke of, and is going to send me the real ones.

Though I am not sure about who makes these "new" ones, I do know that all the atty's I have received from RuyanDirect and TW fit the carts well. These new ones are ill-fitting and do leak all over the desk.



Got 6 in from Eastmall a few days ago and 3 more from innovapor a few days before that. I tried one finally and am not happy with them either. i have sent Eastmall a request to rectify the situation and will do the same with innovapor.
 
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Got 6 in from Eastmall a few days ago and 3 more from innovapor a few days before that. I tried one finally and am not happy with them either. i have sent Eastmall a request to rectify the situation and will do the same with innovapor.

I don't understand, what is that is so bad about the new attys. Is it simply the fact that we don't know if there knockoffs or not. I have old and new attys, the only bad part is that they are 0.12mm id larger than the old ones.
For all we know, they could be Joyes, but modified by inserting a washer, which would account for the bridge being more upright and whatever insertion tool they used stretched the housing. If anything, I would these cost more to produce due to the extra step of inserting the washer.
 

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soo that tells me they are the works of joye unless someone tampered with the box which is highly unlikely!! but why joye are not claiming this so-called new ones :(

I smell something fishy!! just cant put my hands on it!!
I do not dout that innovapor,eastmall where told that this are authentic joye products
but by who and where and how who got them? we might never know!!:confused:
Joye doesnt want to own up to them for what reason I DONT KNOW!!!!:yawn:
just maybe the cat was let out the bag by someone else now they want to make a priemer show and release a new style on they time!!! just a wild guess! i dout thats it im just
brainstroming from the mouth lol....lol:p
 

lela82

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I am loving the new atomizers! I really don't care where they come from or who makes them because the vapor I am getting is unreal! It shipped with carts that fit so no leaking problems, the only thing I had to change was the length of the straw in my cart since the atomizer does sit into the cart further.

I hate to hear so many people complaining about them, and hope that IV chooses to keep both on hand for customers that prefer one or the other.
 

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So i got a couple thousand carts from TW, the fit with the new attys is solid. So it may of been an issue with the last batch of carts.

Regardless we offer the classic style attys as well, we have a drop down menu for atty style on every product.

titan's getting built by Joye for us right now, we'll have those soon.

cheers,

noah
 

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I don't understand, what is that is so bad about the new attys. Is it simply the fact that we don't know if there knockoffs or not. I have old and new attys, the only bad part is that they are 0.12mm id larger than the old ones.
For all we know, they could be Joyes, but modified by inserting a washer, which would account for the bridge being more upright and whatever insertion tool they used stretched the housing. If anything, I would these cost more to produce due to the extra step of inserting the washer.
Well, I dont know about you, but i do more dripping than cart vaping and these new carts dont seem to handle dripping as well as the old ones did. Maybe the washer absorbs the heat and the atomizer is not getting as hot as it used to, not really sure.......... What i do know is the ones i recieved didn't produce well at all after 4 hours use and i spent more time swabbing up leaked juice than ever before. Not to mention that if you are a vaper who tops off carts you will find that your carts dont run as long anymore because the filling must be reduced slightly thus reducing cart storage capacity.

Eastmall has offered replacments, so has Innovapor. Thats all fine by me.
If Eastmall says they are genuine Joye attys and thats where Innovapor got em then I cant blame Innovapor for passing on what they believe to be the truth regarding the new attys and could care less as long as I get what I want and need. I will be sure to inquire before making any future purchases from any supplier to ensure I dont get any more of them.

If Joye truly has changed the atty design then soon enough it wil be all thats available and i guess i will retire my 510, but I find it interesting that Joye hasn't taken claim for these changes and formally announced to
suppliers that the new attys are going to be the norm. Just my .02¢
 

TheUltimateG

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I don't understand, what is that is so bad about the new attys. Is it simply the fact that we don't know if there knockoffs or not. I have old and new attys, the only bad part is that they are 0.12mm id larger than the old ones.
For all we know, they could be Joyes, but modified by inserting a washer, which would account for the bridge being more upright and whatever insertion tool they used stretched the housing. If anything, I would these cost more to produce due to the extra step of inserting the washer.
Well, I dont know about you, but i do more dripping than cart vaping and these new carts dont seem to handle dripping as well as the old ones did. Maybe the washer absorbs the heat and the atomizer is not getting as hot as it used to, not really sure.......... What i do know is the ones i recieved didn't produce well at all after 4 hours use and i spent more time swabbing up leaked juice than ever before. Not to mention that if you are a vaper who tops off carts you will find that your carts dont run as long anymore because the filling must be reduced slightly thus reducing cart storage capacity.

Eastmall has offered replacments, so has Innovapor. Thats all fine by me.
If Eastmall says they are genuine Joye attys and thats where Innovapor got em then I cant blame Innovapor for passing on what they believe to be the truth regarding the new attys and could care less as long as I get what I want and need. I will be sure to inquire before making any future purchases from any supplier to ensure I dont get any more of them.

If Joye truly has changed the atty design then soon enough it wil be all thats available and i guess i will retire my 510, but I find it interesting that Joye hasn't taken claim for these changes and formally announced to
suppliers that the new attys are going to be the norm. Just my .02¢
 

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This is what Joyetech told me driectly:

Dear xxxxx,

I am June. Nice to hear from you.

But I am sorry to tell you that is not true. We have not produced any new atomizer for 510. That is a rumor spread by someone.

Some manufacturer makes counterfeit products.

If you are interested in our products, you can contact us directly. Besides, any new products are ready to sell to all of you. We will certainly put them into our website at the first time.

Any other needs or problems please feel free to contact me.

Thanks in advance and best regards

June
Abroad Sales

Shenzhen Joye Technology Co., Ltd.

I don't know how it can be any more clear. If EastMall represented these as genuine Joyetech hardware, Noah should send them back and get a refund.
 

cmdrmaxwell

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I am loving the new atomizers! I really don't care where they come from or who makes them because the vapor I am getting is unreal! It shipped with carts that fit so no leaking problems, the only thing I had to change was the length of the straw in my cart since the atomizer does sit into the cart further.

I hate to hear so many people complaining about them, and hope that IV chooses to keep both on hand for customers that prefer one or the other.

:D i just got my 510 kit just this moment and since i am a newbie i dont have nothing to compare it to but as far as the cart/atty business it seems just fine. the cart is nice and snug the atty works just fine. the batts were fully charged and ready to go. i charged the extra one and it only took less than 5 min to charge telling me that both were good.

like i say right now it is great, i am totally stoked and just cant put the thing down!!! the 3ml bottles of Ecopure are alot smaller than they look on the site so hint hint, buy a .... load more!

yes i was a skeptic with the whole shipping and atty/cart business but for now i am whole heartedly convinced that i made the right decision to go with IV. i was just jonesin for the Fix everyone talks about on here and now i know!!!

if anyone from IV is reading this... great F ing job! you got my business for a long time to come!!!! thanks!:D:D:D:D
 
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