New Youde RTA the Bellus
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Thanks. I'll take a pic next time I open it up.
I just rewicked and filled again, I'm now using significantly more wick than in your picture on page 12. Still, some liquid seeped out of the airholes right after filling. To me the only acceptable amount of seeping right after a fill is none.
If I've been following the temperature forum closely enough, I believe he's building with a nickel free type of stainless steel. The temperature curve is far different than titanium or nickel, but because the titanium mode on the evic VTC is calibrated too cool it works for stainless steel coils as well, just barely. It might be set at 230, but it's probably more like a 450 degree vape.
Anyone put claptons on yet? My meager skills couldn't make it work. Not enough room.
I've not tried yet, it is on my todo list, I will say getting .22 gauge 2.5mm coils in place took some manipulation, and not much room to spare.
Some pictures, hoping for feedback!
Picture A: Wicked the way I've wicked every similar tank, including the extremely similar Goliath. Performs great without leaking during use, but juice seeps out the air holes right after I fill it. I don't think I'm using any less wick than petabread's image.
Picture B: Put in a ridiculous amount of wick. Channels are stuffed and the edges compressed a little after putting the tank on. Get dry hits eventually which is what I would expect from using this much wick. But it STILL weeped out the airholes right after filling.
Is it possible this isn't a wick issue? Some other trick to using a top fill tank without getting seepage from the air holes after a fill?
I close my airflow off when I fill it and tilt it to the side slightly while filling..... I only fill about 75% full and once I screw the top back on I turn it upside down forms second and slowlymtiltmit back up right side I get no leaking and very minimal gurgling
Do you open the airflow again while its upside down, or after righting it?
Try doing it without the airflow closed. Usually if it leaks with it open, it leaks with it closed too.
I've used the same method while in a rush to fill without closing my airflow and I get the same results. I don't get any leaking just very minimal gurgling
Top fill tanks with screw on fill caps usually trap air when you screw them closed. The trapped air pressurizes when you tighten, forcing juice up through the juice channels and onto the deck. (Bottom fill screws don't have this problem.)
Try the old air hole clearing method after filling: Hold the atty upside down so there is no juice covering the juice channels, cover the air holes with a paper towel, and blow steadily through the drip tip until you have cleared all the residual juice. Take a few good hits right side up to reestablish vacuum, and you should be okay for the rest of the tank.
Your Goliath style wicking in A looks good to me, if a little farther down the channels than necessary.
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I've sed this in another thread. I'm guessing closing off the afc is just to keep things neat. Cause even if you close off your afc, your chimney, chimney shaft, drip tip are still open. Like putting your hand on one end of a pipe and not the other side expecting an air tight seal.
I still get slight leaking out of the afc when filling, regardless of my wicking. Unless I'm super fast with filling. Ex. Dumping it in in less than 5 seconds. Then turning the tank upside down while tightening the top cap.
That's why I love my goliath V1, juice control, no leaking.
I still get slight leaking out of the afc when filling, regardless of my wicking. Unless I'm super fast with filling. Ex. Dumping it in in less than 5 seconds. Then turning the tank upside down while tightening the top cap.
That's why I love my goliath V1, juice control, no leaking.
Thank you.
That's definitely what's happening.
I'll also add that what I'm calling seeping / leaking isn't a geyser of juice, but it's noticeable- perhaps it's what others are calling just the gurgle. My expectations might be too high.
So strange to me that the goliath 2 could lock off the juice flow, but it was bottom fill and unnecessary. Wish they had put that feature on this tank, because I'm really liking the side air flow. If my next attempt doesn't go better I'll resign myself to bottom filling this goliath style - only problem with that is getting the deck in and out could be a lot easier.
Fair points. Personally I don't mind clearing the chamber after filling, but I do it at home not on the road. I also do it with any of these kinds of tanks if they've been sitting unused for awhile. I'm sure you'll sort it out.
Good to hear you like the side air. I'm still waiting for my Bellus, and I'm not expecting a different vape than the Goliath, which is already excellent. If the side air makes it a bit better that's just gravy.
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WRT to the Airflow, it's smoother than the Goliath 2, which I like - and also never whistles (my Goliath whistles unless it's nearly wide open.)
With a combination of filling quickly, inverting, and some other tips, I did get a fill with pretty minimal seepage. But that little rain dance took me longer and required more attention than any bottom fill atty I have. Plus I'm enjoying a side-by-side mod so I really wanted something I could fill cleanly without removing it from the mod. If the bellus had a closeable juice flow and a tighter, non-spinning airflow ring it would be perfect for me.
I'm going on a camping trip this weekend and I was imagining this atty would be great for on-the-go refills, now I don't think so.
Also theWestPole- I see we're lurking on some similar threads- especially after this discussion I'm going to be trying the Crius tank- just gonna wait for their announced update with a better drip tip port and larger post holes.
Yeah, the Crius fill style could be just the thing. No pressure on close. Lemo 2 filling was a breeze, too bad I didn't like the
vape.
Ok, don't have Bellus yet, but this is how I top fill everything else:
Close airflow
Close juice control if it has it.
Fill.
Put on top cap and flip for last half turn or part of pushing on press fit cap.
Open afc while inverted. Hold inverted 10 seconds.
I never get leaking.
Close airflow
Close juice control if it has it.
Fill.
Put on top cap and flip for last half turn or part of pushing on press fit cap.
Open afc while inverted. Hold inverted 10 seconds.
I never get leaking.
Well, after loving the performance of the Goliath V2, I'm a bit disappointed by the Bellus.
With identical coils, wicks, juice, and mod, compared side-by-side, the Bellus produces less flavor, vapor, and airflow than the Goliath V2.
I think the Bellus' weakest link is also it's largest selling point.... side airflow.
From a physics and engineering viewpoint, side airflow is far less efficient at bathing the entire coil in airflow when compared to bottom airflow.
In the Bellus, the airstream hits the front of the coil and makes a 90 degree turn upward to exhaust through the chimney, only efficiently flowing over 1/4 of the coil. This leaves 3/4 of the coil with a far reduced amount of airflow.
On the positive side of things, the top fill works great and so does the deck access.
If Youde designs the Bellus V2 with bottom airflow, it would be the perfect tank.
With identical coils, wicks, juice, and mod, compared side-by-side, the Bellus produces less flavor, vapor, and airflow than the Goliath V2.
I think the Bellus' weakest link is also it's largest selling point.... side airflow.
From a physics and engineering viewpoint, side airflow is far less efficient at bathing the entire coil in airflow when compared to bottom airflow.
In the Bellus, the airstream hits the front of the coil and makes a 90 degree turn upward to exhaust through the chimney, only efficiently flowing over 1/4 of the coil. This leaves 3/4 of the coil with a far reduced amount of airflow.
On the positive side of things, the top fill works great and so does the deck access.
If Youde designs the Bellus V2 with bottom airflow, it would be the perfect tank.
I'm going to agree, especially with my coils right in the middle of the air channel like they are now. Next wicking I'm going to try to raise the coils a bit and see if that helps things.
Also, the Bellus is louder than the G2. The airholes whistle through the cheese grater afc ring. It is much quieter with the afc ring removed, so the noise must be coming from the cheese graters.
What a shame. I had such high hopes for the Bellus. I would gladly trade it for a Goliath V2.
What a shame. I had such high hopes for the Bellus. I would gladly trade it for a Goliath V2.
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