I have the Gob mini and run it single coil with AFC closed off (most of the time) and love the flavor so good to hear that Bellus is better or equal with GM since I'm a flavor junkie
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I have the Gob mini and run it single coil with AFC closed off (most of the time) and love the flavor so good to hear that Bellus is better or equal with GM since I'm a flavor junkie
Gee, my Bellus is my favorite atty but I never say much here so here goes.
At first I didn't see anything all that great till I figured out what I was doing kind of on the wrong side.
I was trying to fit my usual 2.6 mm id contact coils in there. To get them to clear the chamber and not contact the positive block the coil needed to be raised up. Also if I centered it with the air intake it was so close to the intake that it restricted the air flow.
I now build 2 mm id coils and they almost touch the deck, it performs fantastic.
Most of the builds pictured here are way to high (just my opinion though).
My coils are dead on with the air slits (if the AC ring is off)
At first I didn't see anything all that great till I figured out what I was doing kind of on the wrong side.
I was trying to fit my usual 2.6 mm id contact coils in there. To get them to clear the chamber and not contact the positive block the coil needed to be raised up. Also if I centered it with the air intake it was so close to the intake that it restricted the air flow.
I now build 2 mm id coils and they almost touch the deck, it performs fantastic.
Most of the builds pictured here are way to high (just my opinion though).
My coils are dead on with the air slits (if the AC ring is off)
Gee, my Bellus is my favorite atty but I never say much here so here goes.
At first I didn't see anything all that great till I figured out what I was doing kind of on the wrong side.
I was trying to fit my usual 2.6 mm id contact coils in there. To get them to clear the chamber and not contact the positive block the coil needed to be raised up. Also if I centered it with the air intake it was so close to the intake that it restricted the air flow.
I now build 2 mm id coils and they almost touch the deck, it performs fantastic.
Most of the builds pictured here are way to high (just my opinion though).
My coils are dead on with the air slits (if the AC ring is off)
What gauge, ohm, etc? Any tips? You like MTL or LH?
It's a great RTA, I've not used another RTA since buying the Bellus, which is saying something as I've got several other great RTA's that were in my rotation.
I'll be buying at least one more of these.
I'll be buying at least one more of these.
The best part about it is that you don't need to throw a shat ton of watts at it. This RTA is proof what a small deck, small builds, and small chamber can produce. Dense, thick, flavorful clouds that fall to the floor.
I'd have to say, after several months of usage, the Bellus is my favorite atomizer of 2015, and I've owned quite a few of the "contenders" to that title, including the Aromamizer and Crius (haven't tried a Griffon yet, and don't feel any compelling need to at this point).
The secret, as most of you know, is building for the Bellus, not just transplanting your "favorite" large diameter RDA/RTA build into it and then being unhappy with the results.
The secret, as most of you know, is building for the Bellus, not just transplanting your "favorite" large diameter RDA/RTA build into it and then being unhappy with the results.
I have 2mm coils on one build and 2.5mm coils in the other. For me, raising the coils gave me superb flavor, but of course YMMV. Mine are sitting so the bottom third is showing in the air slots.
Hey everybody, so I picked up a bellus from my local b&m recently and have got a dual vertical ss316l build in it and it vape like a champ. The only problem I have is that it leaks like a mo fo! Can anybody give me an idea what I'm doing wrong? It's my first rta build so it is most definitely user error!
Your wicks are way too long. All the wick your thumb is covering in that second pic needs to go away, and maybe a bit more. There's a "step" in the juice channel, you really don't want your wick extending down past that point, and you want to make sure that it does cover the width of the channel with no gaps side-to-side or front-to-back (looks like you've got that part covered already).
Once I figured out that The chamber's bottom edge sat in that "step" and didn't go over it I figured out why my coils keep hitting the sides of the chamber (In the beginning)....LOL
I've had my Bellus for a week. It's my first RTA. Also got some 26ga Ti wire at the same to to fiddle with TC for the first time. Started with 2.4mm ID dual contact coils. They were okay, but just drank my liquid... More so than any of my RDA setups. I've tried a few other builds and settled on an eight wrap 2.2mm ID single spaced coil. Flavor for days, easy on the juice consumption, and seems to work way better in TC mode. Wicking this thing is a breeze. I just trim each side about 1/4" past the coil and stuff the ends down into each channel so they just touch the bottom. Been using 80% VG and haven't had a dry hit.
Edit: Just after posting this the vapor gods sent a smite my way. Had a horrible dry hit. Go figure.
Edit: Just after posting this the vapor gods sent a smite my way. Had a horrible dry hit. Go figure.
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The Bellus can be a finicky beast when it comes to wicking. Too much or too little can and will cause problems, but once you get down the exact length, the leaking disappears and there's nary a dry hit. It is a juice guzzler, but is also hands-down my most used RTA.
Interesting go at the vertical coils, though. I may have to give that one a shot soon.
Ok like I thought a major case of user error! I couldn't find any YouTube vids showing verticals on the bellus so I kind of winged it ( you can probably tell!) but the guy at my local b&m suggested verticals were the way to go on a smaller tape deck. It does vape like nothing else that I own - almost on par with my mutation X. I will re-wick later on and report back with my findings.
Thanks for the heads up Croak
Thanks for the heads up Croak
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I'd go with horizontals on the Bellus. It's a great RTA and I personally don't see any great advantage to be had with verticals.
I've got a vertical setup in my Aromamiser to counter the indirect airflow, but with the Bellus I'd go with horizontals.
I'd go with horizontals on the Bellus. It's a great RTA and I personally don't see any great advantage to be had with verticals.
I've got a vertical setup in my Aromamiser to counter the indirect airflow, but with the Bellus I'd go with horizontals.
Have 2 of these and really dig everything about them 
Easy to disassemble, clean, build, reassemble, fill, and a joy to vape with on every APV I own. Very reliable and rock-steady for Ti TC. Holds enough Juice to run most all day out and about or at work (sometimes topping off toward the end of the work day). Size and Aesthetics are nice (IMO).
Perfect (as I "wish" they were) ? No. But, quite close enough. Never a Dry-Hit. Very very limited "seepage" from the AF (typically only a tad every now and then after a re-fill) but no "leakage". The Flavor is Amazing (only beaten by my Tengu) and YES,,, it takes ample Liquid vaporizing to make "great Flavor" same as it takes ample Fuel to produce big Horsepower. If you think the Bellus drinks the Juice, you should try a Tengu.
I build them in single-Coil Config (to get desired @ 0.26 R using Ti) with 26ga Ti, slightly spaced 6 wrap on a 2.38mm I.D. horizontal and position the Coils toward the top to a tad above the AF Intake as suggested by others here. I have built centered on the AF as well and have found, at least IMO and in all my experiences, slightly to the top and above the AF to be superior to centered for Flavor. I use all 70/30 or 80/20 mix Liquids.
It is tight to get that Build in there properly but not a real Issue.
Wicking isn't difficult once you consider the Design of the Deck/Base and how it all comes together and is meant to work. As Croak said, not too much, not too little and not all the way down to the Base but terminating at the Build-Deck "Step". Just enough side-to-side to cover that Step Area but not "stuffing" it or packed tight. I have also experimented with leaving a little longer "tail" (very light in material) in the middle of the Wick "Brush" that extends down onto the lower Juice Slot at the Base covering about 1/2 of that. Takes more time and effort but once I did that, it seemed to reduce the "seepage" after re-fill with no negative effects on Juice feed or decrease in Flavor or propensity to lean-hit.
Also, a much forgotten aspect of Wicking (it seems) is the proper amount/diameter of Wicking inside the Coil itself. Especially taking into consideration the Material you use. I use OC and get it just barely enough (diameter of Wick) to provide some resistance when sliding back and forth through the Coil to be sufficient knowing it will "swell" when soaked. Too much/packed and it will become "choked-off" backing up Juice into the Chimney/Chamber area leading to flooding and lean/dry hits. Too little and it (that portion of the Wick) will burn through prematurely and/or waste Juice by leaking or getting sucked up into the vapor tube (spit-back).
Vaping is quite similar to Internal Combustion Engine Dynamic in that it takes optimal Air-Fuel/Juice mix Tuning, Design, and Delivery to achieve the maximum in performance from any Rig.
As for Vertical vs. Horizontal Coils,,, to Each-their own. Personally on the Bellus, I see absolutely zero reason or advantage to Verticals and will stick to Horizontal. Then again, the Single Horizontal 2.38mm I.D. 6 wrap 26 ga Ti Builds I use and prefer perform great with zero Issue or Negative for my tastes and purposes. Others may use and prefer different Wire, Resistances, etc. that may necessitate a Vertical to fit.
That's just the way I do things on my Bellus(s) and what comes from it. Your "mileage" may vary and that's cool
For some reason, have never taken Pics of the Steps during my Build Process on the Bellus as have with other RTAs or would post some.
Easy to disassemble, clean, build, reassemble, fill, and a joy to vape with on every APV I own. Very reliable and rock-steady for Ti TC. Holds enough Juice to run most all day out and about or at work (sometimes topping off toward the end of the work day). Size and Aesthetics are nice (IMO).Perfect (as I "wish" they were) ? No. But, quite close enough. Never a Dry-Hit. Very very limited "seepage" from the AF (typically only a tad every now and then after a re-fill) but no "leakage". The Flavor is Amazing (only beaten by my Tengu) and YES,,, it takes ample Liquid vaporizing to make "great Flavor" same as it takes ample Fuel to produce big Horsepower. If you think the Bellus drinks the Juice, you should try a Tengu.
I build them in single-Coil Config (to get desired @ 0.26 R using Ti) with 26ga Ti, slightly spaced 6 wrap on a 2.38mm I.D. horizontal and position the Coils toward the top to a tad above the AF Intake as suggested by others here. I have built centered on the AF as well and have found, at least IMO and in all my experiences, slightly to the top and above the AF to be superior to centered for Flavor. I use all 70/30 or 80/20 mix Liquids.
It is tight to get that Build in there properly but not a real Issue.
Wicking isn't difficult once you consider the Design of the Deck/Base and how it all comes together and is meant to work. As Croak said, not too much, not too little and not all the way down to the Base but terminating at the Build-Deck "Step". Just enough side-to-side to cover that Step Area but not "stuffing" it or packed tight. I have also experimented with leaving a little longer "tail" (very light in material) in the middle of the Wick "Brush" that extends down onto the lower Juice Slot at the Base covering about 1/2 of that. Takes more time and effort but once I did that, it seemed to reduce the "seepage" after re-fill with no negative effects on Juice feed or decrease in Flavor or propensity to lean-hit.
Also, a much forgotten aspect of Wicking (it seems) is the proper amount/diameter of Wicking inside the Coil itself. Especially taking into consideration the Material you use. I use OC and get it just barely enough (diameter of Wick) to provide some resistance when sliding back and forth through the Coil to be sufficient knowing it will "swell" when soaked. Too much/packed and it will become "choked-off" backing up Juice into the Chimney/Chamber area leading to flooding and lean/dry hits. Too little and it (that portion of the Wick) will burn through prematurely and/or waste Juice by leaking or getting sucked up into the vapor tube (spit-back).
Vaping is quite similar to Internal Combustion Engine Dynamic in that it takes optimal Air-Fuel/Juice mix Tuning, Design, and Delivery to achieve the maximum in performance from any Rig.
As for Vertical vs. Horizontal Coils,,, to Each-their own. Personally on the Bellus, I see absolutely zero reason or advantage to Verticals and will stick to Horizontal. Then again, the Single Horizontal 2.38mm I.D. 6 wrap 26 ga Ti Builds I use and prefer perform great with zero Issue or Negative for my tastes and purposes. Others may use and prefer different Wire, Resistances, etc. that may necessitate a Vertical to fit.
That's just the way I do things on my Bellus(s) and what comes from it. Your "mileage" may vary and that's cool
For some reason, have never taken Pics of the Steps during my Build Process on the Bellus as have with other RTAs or would post some.
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