Newbie here, my new DES901, & 510, both stopped vaping?

[Rogue]

On the advice of this forum, before I became a member, I picked up both a DSE901, & a 510, from e-cigarette mart, in that order, because I couldn't decide which one would be better?
I don't know if these are authentic or clones?, both starter kits were very reasonable. Anyway after a couple days of just testing them, I get very little vapor, and find them hard to drag on. I figured they'd work right out of the box after a battery charge for me to try, so I didn't order any "juice", extra carts, or attomizers. The DES 901 had a strange burnt taste right from the beginning, and when the vaping got less, I took the cart (mouthpiece) off and found the foam was gone 8-o I guess I smoked it :O is all this normal? Next, do I have to clean the bridge, & atty somehow now? Also, I'd like to know if I can use these original carts for filling, or dripping, or if I must get a different cart, or atty?

 

[Scottbee]

Generally speaking, the 901 comes from the factory with a "dummy" mouthpiece on it. It has no filler and no e-liquid.

My guess would be that you left that cartridge on, and vaped away all of the factory primer.

Do you have ANY pre-filled carts at all? If not.... you're not vaping yet.

 

[JustJulie]

I think Scottbee is right . . . sounds like you've been vaping without a cartridge . . . just a mouthpiece.

 

[jj2]

DES 901 had a strange burnt taste right from the beginning

There's a primer on the atty and it taste pretty bad sometimes, and that is probably what you were tasting until it was gone.

vaping got less, I took the cart (mouthpiece) off and found the foam was gone

Most atty's come with an empty cart. Did you check to see if there was the foam stuff you're talking about?

 

[Rogue]

Thanks for the quick response, I think there was foam in the cart at the beginning, but I'm not positive? The rest of the carts in the box that came with it say "high", "low", or "none", and they all have foam in them, but I don't know if they're pre-filled? I thought these e-cigs were ready to use (cart, or atomizer prefilled) right out of the box, no? They vaped fine in the beginning, but the 901 was a bit odd tasting, the 510 tasted more natural. Can I just refill the atty on the 510, or cart foam on either, once I get juice?

Last night I was desperate, so I took some imitation vanilla flavoring, and put 2 drops on the bridge, and the foam, of the 901, and it started vaping again, plus it was tasty!

 

[Debra]

There was no filler in the cart. It's not possible to vape it all away. Well, maybe given enough time, but it would take a LONGGGGGGGG time.

 

[Debra]

Oh, rogue... be sure you read the ingredients on that vinilla flavoring. If it lists corn syrup, don't use it.

Open up one of those prefilled carts, slap it on there, and will get a vape.

 

[Niniane]

Thanks for the quick response, I think there was foam in the cart at the beginning, but I'm not positive? The rest of the carts in the box that came with it say "high", "low", or "none", and they all have foam in them, but I don't know if they're pre-filled? I thought these e-cigs were ready to use (cart, or atomizer prefilled) right out of the box, no?

They vaped fine in the beginning, but the 901 was a bit odd tasting, the 510 tasted more natural. Can I just refill the atty on the 510, or cart foam on either, once I get juice?

Last night I was desperate, so I took some imitation vanilla flavoring, and put 2 drops on the bridge, and the foam, of the 901, and it started vaping again, plus it was tasty!

The carts that say high, low, and none are prefilled. The one that came on your atomizer w/o foam was just there to protect the atomizer during shipping. The weird taste was probably you burning off the primer, as others said. Both 901 and 501 carts can be refilled with eliquid. In the meantime, if you don't have any eliquid yet, you can use vegetable glycerine (vg) to rewet them when they get dry. They will produce vapor, but there won't be any flavor or nicotine in the vg.

 

[Rogue]

Oh, rogue... be sure you read the ingredients on that vinilla flavoring. If it lists corn syrup, don't use it.

Corn syrup? I don't know? Is it bad for me, or the atty? or both?
There's nothing about that in the ingredients, but it does say there's sugar in it.

 

[Niniane]

Most people feel things like sugar and corn syrup will kill your atomizer, and most people try to stick to colorless or lightly colorred flavorings as well. If you need flavor, there are a bunch of threads in the DiY liquid section DIY e-liquid - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat concerning what works well.

 

[Rogue]

The carts that say high, low, and none are prefilled. The one that came on your atomizer w/o foam was just there to protect the atomizer during shipping. The weird taste was probably you burning off the primer, as others said. Both 901 and 501 carts can be refilled with eliquid. In the meantime, if you don't have any eliquid yet, you can use vegetable glycerine (vg) to rewet them when they get dry. They will produce vapor, but there won't be any flavor or nicotine in the vg.

Thanks, Is it okay to drip the bridge on both, or either one? I know the 901 has an auto battery that you must be careful of.

 

[Scottbee]

The good news is that your 510 cartridges will fit (loosely) on your 901.. and your 901 cartridges will fit (tightly) on your 510. You can mix-and-match.

 

[Camel Crush]

LOL @ imitation vanilla. That's quite crafty of you.

The things we will do in times of need...

 

[Debra]

Thanks, Is it okay to drip the bridge on both, or either one? I know the 901 has an auto battery that you must be careful of.

I've never used the 501, so I'm not sure how easily the battery can be damaged by dripping. I have dripped on my 901 and had no trouble so far, but only use 2 or 3 drops at time on the atty bridge.

 

[Rogue]

LOL @ imitation vanilla. That's quite crafty of you.

The things we will do in times of need...

The 901 never tasted so good! I may never need anything else?
But, I just ordered a 10pack of assorted flavors from Best E Ciggy, just to be sure, and I couldn't beat the price, or selection.

 

[Camel Crush]

I've never used the 501, so I'm not sure how easily the battery can be damaged by dripping. I have dripped on my 901 and had no trouble so far, but only use 2 or 3 drops at time on the atty bridge.

The 501 has a manual battery, which is sealed. No chance of damage through dripping.

Only automatic batteries, like the 901, have that problem. Automatic batteries have a hole between the battery and atomizer to detect when you are taking a drag, which activates them. Liquid can get into the battery through this hole and send the battery to a landfill.

 

[Camel Crush]

The 901 never tasted so good! I may never need anything else?
But, I just ordered a 10pack of assorted flavors from Best E Ciggy, just to be sure, and I couldn't beat the price, or selection.

Sweet.

 

[angiebi]

The 501 has a manual battery, which is sealed. No chance of damage through dripping.

Only automatic batteries, like the 901, have that problem. Automatic batteries have a hole between the battery and atomizer to detect when you are taking a drag, which activates them. Liquid can get into the battery through this hole and send the battery to a landfill.

I'm happy to read this, didn't know it......happy that I have a few cigs with manual batteries........and happy too to know I have to be carefull with the automatics...........

 

[Scottbee]

The 501 has a manual battery, which is sealed. No chance of damage through dripping.

Only automatic batteries, like the 901, have that problem. Automatic batteries have a hole between the battery and atomizer to detect when you are taking a drag, which activates them. Liquid can get into the battery through this hole and send the battery to a landfill.

Not all 510's (I'm sure you meant 510, not 501) have manual batteries and not all 901's have automatic batteries.

 

[Camel Crush]

Not all 510's (I'm sure you meant 510, not 501) have manual batteries and not all 901's have automatic batteries.

Yeah, that was a mistake on my part. All these numbers run together sometimes.

Most basic 510 kits come with manuals, most basic 901's come with autos. The kits I ordered did, anyway.