newbie in this forum, is vaping cheaper than smoking ?

[weirdofreak]

i'm sorry for any misspelling, because english is not my language.

Just started vaping about a few weeks ago in order to quit smoking, but recently seeing all the price of e-juice made me wonder whether vaping is cheaper than smoking.
Since most of e-juice 30ml costs more than 10$ , i was thinking that smoking might be cheaper in my case, because in my country black dunhill fine cut pack (16 cigarettes) costs about 1.2$. Some friends has suggested making my own juice, but i'm still unsure about that, not to mention i spend most day working and too tired spending the night making juice.
So for these few days i've been wondering whether i should continue vaping or just back to smoking.

 

[retired1]

DIY is cheap once you get the hang of it. And while smokes are dirt cheap where you're at, giving up the cigarettes and going to vaping is much healthier for you in the long run.

 

[djsvapour]

Health is priceless. Just because cigarettes are very cheap doesn't make them the healthy choice.

If the cost is really that important, you can buy e-liquid for less the $10 or make your own.

Even with $10 e-liquid, if you buy stronger liquid, vape it at lower power and keep under 3ml a day, it's still cheaper than smoking.

If I was really struggling for money (I am not) I would go back to 18mg or even 24mg if legal.

 

[gingertalk196]

Boy cigarettes are really cheap by you. With that said, I agree with the above that vaping is a much more healthy alternative.
I don't vape excessively and use a vape pen so for me it is much, much cheaper. I wish you luck in making your decision.

 

[Rickajho]

Well, you have defined your own marker on the sliding scale of costs. If it's cheaper than smoking and by how much is going to be different for everyone.

As other people are pointing out: Cheaper isn't necessarily the point either. What good is "cheaper smoking" when smoking starts impacting your health? You don't get a do-over if or when some medical implications of smoking kick in.

 

[BrotherBob]

Welcome and glad you joined.
Depends on how much a price you put on your life.

 

[Lannie]

Do your friends make their own juice? If they do, ask them to show you how, because it's really not time consuming. If you have a recipe and the flavors to go with it, along with the nic and PG/VG of course, it takes less than 5 minutes to measure out the ingredients into a bottle. ANY sized bottle. You can make a 30ml bottle or a 120ml bottle in the same amount of time. The first time will take longer, because you haven't done it before, but the second time and afterward will take very little time, and it's a good skill to have, not to mention it's much cheaper that way.

 

[vsemchik]

If you will do your own coil builds and vape DIY without nicotine and in will be one aroma liquid's I think it will be cheaper. If not it depends in what country do you live what is the price of e-liquid and what is the taxes for cigarettes.

 

[TheMike21]

If you don't mind my asking, where do you live? I ask because here in Mexico, a pack of 20 is $2.5US, and that used to last me a day, a 30ml bottle of imported liquid costs me $20US and lasts me almost a week. Yes, that is more expensive. But there are awesome Mexican made liquids for $5.5US for 30ml or $16US for 120ml. Then vaping is less expensive.

Also, if you have your one set up and your back up and just spend on liquid, cotton and wire then yes, it's cheaper. If you get into the hobby then you are probably going to spend more.

In the end, as others said before, what's the price on your well being?

 

[opticruby]

I agree with everyone else, pay the extra and vape..you cannot put a price on health and life.

Also Welcome to ECF!!!

 

[igotthevapors]

Vaping is totally cheaper than smoking, even as cheap as you're getting them. Even with those cheap prices if you just go to your favorite vape shop and get your flavors in a concentrate, you can make your own juice for next to nothing...

 

[weirdofreak]

Do your friends make their own juice? If they do, ask them to show you how, because it's really not time consuming. If you have a recipe and the flavors to go with it, along with the nic and PG/VG of course, it takes less than 5 minutes to measure out the ingredients into a bottle. ANY sized bottle. You can make a 30ml bottle or a 120ml bottle in the same amount of time. The first time will take longer, because you haven't done it before, but the second time and afterward will take very little time, and it's a good skill to have, not to mention it's much cheaper that way.

1 litre of PV and VG here each cost about 7.5$. Dunno it if it only take 5 minute to make my own liquid, then i might give it a try. thought somepeople said stepping might take a week. and i also don't have good knowledge about mixing juice, which give me a warning not to endanger myself

DIY is cheap once you get the hang of it. And while smokes are dirt cheap where you're at, giving up the cigarettes and going to vaping is much healthier for you in the long run.

well, indeed the reason why i try to quit smoking is because i've been getting these frequent headache and cough for years and doctor told me to stop smoking. been trying those nicotine patch etc and they're not working at all. Still the cost kinda alude me thought.

If you will do your own coil builds and vape DIY without nicotine and in will be one aroma liquid's I think it will be cheaper. If not it depends in what country do you live what is the price of e-liquid and what is the taxes for cigarettes.

well, i made my own coil, so the cost is not really high for coil

If you don't mind my asking, where do you live? I ask because here in Mexico, a pack of 20 is $2.5US, and that used to last me a day, a 30ml bottle of imported liquid costs me $20US and lasts me almost a week. Yes, that is more expensive. But there are awesome Mexican made liquids for $5.5US for 30ml or $16US for 120ml. Then vaping is less expensive.

Also, if you have your one set up and your back up and just spend on liquid, cotton and wire then yes, it's cheaper. If you get into the hobby then you are probably going to spend more.

In the end, as others said before, what's the price on your well being?

i'm in indonesia. and most of local liquids here cost 10$-15$ for 30ml. and yes there are some cheal local liquids here, thought in local forum there are people who said that these cheap liquid are quite dangerous, because some nasty brewers decide to add water, coffe, and whatever thing that help reduce the cost.

Health is priceless. Just because cigarettes are very cheap doesn't make them the healthy choice.

If the cost is really that important, you can buy e-liquid for less the $10 or make your own.

Even with $10 e-liquid, if you buy stronger liquid, vape it at lower power and keep under 3ml a day, it's still cheaper than smoking.

If I was really struggling for money (I am not) I would go back to 18mg or even 24mg if legal.

based on my experience using 0mg/3mg/6mg seems to reduce my headache, so i dont think i'll use 18mg and 24mg

 

[djsvapour]

based on my experience using 0mg/3mg/6mg seems to reduce my headache, so i dont think i'll use 18mg and 24mg

No, I agree with you. But if 3mg works for you and you need to keep the power down to use less juice, then use 6mg. If a vaper uses 6mg at 25 watts, then try using 12mg at 14 watts, that sort of logic.

I'm not telling you how to vape, only that the option is there to use higher strength liquid at lower power, although perhaps you can't change the power on your e-cig? If so, my apologies...

 

[Lannie]

1 litre of PV and VG here each cost about 7.5$. Dunno it if it only take 5 minute to make my own liquid, then i might give it a try. thought somepeople said stepping might take a week. and i also don't have good knowledge about mixing juice, which give me a warning not to endanger myself

As long as you don't drink the nic base straight from the bottle, or pour it into your eyes, you'll be safe. Some juices need some "steep time," but lots don't. Most fruit flavors are good right away, but custard and cream flavors take a few days to a few weeks to fully blossom into their full flavors. Doesn't mean you won't be able to vape it right away, though, just that it might taste better in a week.

If you have some bottles to mix into, and a couple of blunt-needle syringes, you can mix juice. Say for instance you wanted a fruit juice, and you have a recipe that calls for (this is just an example) 15% strawberry and 10% watermelon or something like that, and you wanted to make 30mls of it. You use your blunt-needle syringe to draw up 15% of the strawberry flavoring (15% of 30ml is 4.5ml), so you'd draw up 4.5ml of strawberry and squirt that into your bottle. Then 10% of the watermelon flavor (that would be 10% of 30ml or 3.0ml), so you draw up 3ml of the watermelon and squirt that in your bottle. If your nic base is 100mg per ml, and you want 3mg nic in your finished juice, then you'd draw up .9ml of the nic base (3% of 30ml) and squirt that in your bottle. Now you have 25% flavor in there, which are in PG, plus the small bit of nic base in whichever you choose, either PG or VG base, so if you want a juice with a finished ratio of 75% VG and 25% PG, all you have to do to finish it is pour VG into the bottle to top it off.

I'm sorry if that sounds confusing, but it's really not. You just put however much of each flavor that's in your recipe into your bottle and top it up with VG or a combination of VG and PG if you want a higher level of PG than what your flavors add up to. Anyway, your bottle is full now, so you shake it up real good, and it's ready to vape.

You don't even need a juice calculator if you get 100mg/ml nic base, because each mg of nic in your final juice is 1%. So if you want 3mg nic, you put in 3% of the total volume of juice as the nic base. And as I said, once you've done it one time, you'll see how easy it is, and you'll wonder why you ever paid for commercial juice. Also, when you make your own, you KNOW what's in it. And what's NOT in it.

 

[Alter]

My wife and I not smoking has gotten some perks over the last 3 years. Since I rebuild my coils and DIY our juice we have extra money around that we aren't spending @$600 a month to smoke ciggys, now down to less than 20 bucks a month to vape. First perk was trading our old mini van for a brand new 2012 GMC Terrain(year after release) to help offset some of the extra money we had. 2 years later of enjoying the Terrain we traded it off for a new 2015 Canyon, nice vehicle but it had a few manufacture issues with transmission and steering so after dealing with our dealer and GMC Canada we got rid of the Canyon(after 7 months) then upgraded to a 2016 Chevy Silverado that we picked up last Friday from the dealer.
There is no way we could afford such nice vehicles if we smoked cigs so YES you do save money or find another avenue to spend your cigarette money other than paying out big tobacco.

 

[Rickajho]

Oh heck if it's help with making DIY liquids you need you can get all sorts of info and assistance right here: DIY E-Liquid

 

[viking**]

i'm sorry for any misspelling, because english is not my language.

Just started vaping about a few weeks ago in order to quit smoking, but recently seeing all the price of e-juice made me wonder whether vaping is cheaper than smoking.
Since most of e-juice 30ml costs more than 10$ , i was thinking that smoking might be cheaper in my case, because in my country black dunhill fine cut pack (16 cigarettes) costs about 1.2$. Some friends has suggested making my own juice, but i'm still unsure about that, not to mention i spend most day working and too tired spending the night making juice.
So for these few days i've been wondering whether i should continue vaping or just back to smoking.

Vape unflavored juice,pick your nic level,for me ,it's as close to a cigarette as you can get and very cheap.

 

[sofarsogood]

i'm sorry for any misspelling, because english is not my language.

Just started vaping about a few weeks ago in order to quit smoking, but recently seeing all the price of e-juice made me wonder whether vaping is cheaper than smoking.
Since most of e-juice 30ml costs more than 10$ , i was thinking that smoking might be cheaper in my case, because in my country black dunhill fine cut pack (16 cigarettes) costs about 1.2$. Some friends has suggested making my own juice, but i'm still unsure about that, not to mention i spend most day working and too tired spending the night making juice.
So for these few days i've been wondering whether i should continue vaping or just back to smoking.

My DIY cost of ingredients is 1.2 cents per ml which works out to $30 a year. It takes the same amount of time to mix a batch regardless of the size. I like to mix every two weeks. The time is less than 30 minutes. A state of the art mod can be had for less than $30 and should last at least a couple of years. Vaping isn't cheap, it's free.

 

[CassiusCloud]

I spend about 60 dollars every two months..Mainly because i have 3 to 4 juices that i take with me all the time that are my daily vapes..
I hit my vapes all the time..Just can't get enough of those good tastes..I sure wish they had vaping when i was a teen..
I could'a been a contender..
lol

 

[Elvensilvan]

from a juice diy-er's point of view:

yes, making your own juice is a lot cheaper than buying commercial ones.

also, you claim you are too busy with work to make your own juice? funny you would say that because mixing your own e-juice would take just a few minutes, and if you make more than 100 ml per batch, you're making juice good for several days at the least.

personally, i mix "test juice" at around 5-10 ml, just to taste it up, and if i like it, next is making anywhere between 30 to 200 ml at a time.