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i just bought the starter kit 2 days ago from a local store i charged the battery as i was supposed to at first i got about 3 to 4 hours of use by the end of the night gettting about 2 to 3 of use of the blu ecig next day i was getting about an hour of use so i try to charge the battery for about 2 hours no luck still got an hour of use now the second day of use i get about 30 minutes of use

so i called blu customer service explaining what going on so i have to send my batteries to them im very disappointed going to cost me send the batteries to them and have to wait for the processing be two to 4 weeks not a happy customer
 
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i just bought the starter kit 2 days ago from a local store i charged the battery as i was supposed to at first i got about 3 to 4 hours of use by the end of the night gettting about 2 to 3 of use of the blu ecig next day i was getting about an hour of use so i try to charge the battery for about 2 hours no luck still got an hour of use now the second day of use i get about 30 minutes of use

so i called blu customer service explaining what going on so i have to send my batteries to them im very disappointed going to cost me send the batteries to them and have to wait for the processing be two to 4 weeks not a happy customer

i would just cut your losses on the blu and move on to something a bit better,even after getting new batterys it will still not be good enough to keep up with anyone but the most passive vaper i was lucky to get 10 or so hits off mine before it was too weak to give a hit worth taking not to mention the cartos dried out way to fast on them.
 

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Welcome and happy vaping. From one newbie to another, take the advice of the vets who have posted suggestions about going with a variable volt batt. Like you're thinking, I went with the ego-c first and after only 1 1/2 weeks of vaping (which is waaay better than cigarettes), I'm already looking for more ways to control my vaping experience. Been researching the spinner and vamo (as the provari may be a birthday gift :D). Vape on.
 

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thank you! Good info. Now what exactly does it do when i have ahigher voltage battery? Does it make it smoke better or taste better? I see alot of ppl like to be able to adjust the amperage of the battery.

You're welcome. Sorry about the info overload but I was quite sick and didn't know if I'd be posting so I just thought I throw everything up.
Higher voltage generally gives a better vape. With VV/ variable voltage you can adjust it to suit your needs. Also some juices taste remarkably better at different voltages. If I'm stressed out I have 2 ways of dealing with it- vape a higher mg/ nicotine or turn up the voltage.

ok thats another thing im clueless about, what is the ohm i keep seeing? And what is the difference between the low flow or one higher? Just let me know if I get on your nerves!! lmao

LOLLLLL. With VV it also gives us a wider choice as to the ohms of the delivery device (holds and vaporizes juice) we use. lower ohms equals a warmer and stronger vape. There's an ohms/ volts chart but I'll post that later

Take your time in choosing.
 

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Hi everyone and thank you so much for the welcomes and advice! Vapoor what would you suggest now remember I am a HEAVEY HEAVY SMOKER lol I am a gadget junkie and I am not scared of something with a little power to it hmmm... I wonder if I said that right? lol

Well, one heavy smoker (pack and half to two a day) to another, the Blu certainly won't cut it. It'll help but only some. Their version of "high" nicotine is not so high.

I'm going to a tank system and my Blu kit is going to a friend who I suggested try the disposables. I referred to the Blu as "training wheels". :) Gets you started but you won't stay with it once you start to learn.

Myself, I don't know the eGo well but I know I read a lot of good things about it around here.

The thing I wish I'd learned before I bought more than just disposables was what the nicotine levels mean. Especially because what Blu calls "high" isn't. It's more "medium". At least if you get into their kits. The disposables run 20-24mg for "Classic Tobacco" and 17-24 for "Magnificent Menthol" (the one I tried first).

But their cartomizers for the kit, the "high" is 13-16mg. Bit sneaky I would say. The disposables get you going and then you got to buy tons and tons of their cartos.

Anyway. Everybody else seems to do it in 6mg increments. From 0mg (no nicotine) to 24mg (high) with some offering 36mg (really high). It's also expressed as a percentage for bottled liquids. But it's just moving a decimal point. A 2.4% liquid corresponds to a 24mg cartomizer (more or less).

So if the "Classic Tobacco" Blu disposable is helping you, that corresponds to roughly a 2.4% e-liquid or 24mg cartridge/carto/whatever.

Since my experience was I dropped from 1.5 to 2 PAD down to maybe 3 regular cigs a day on the disposable but with the goofy Blu kit have snuck back *up* a bit (still, no higher than 5 cigs in a day, for me, that's still a "win")... I'm ordering samples of 24mg (2.4%) strength e-liquids (okay, some are 1.8% or 18mg but they're a flavor I wanna try :) ).

I started noticing that I seem to want a "real one" like I was trying to get a "jolt" of nicotine then could coast along on vaping for hours. Then need a "jolt" again. I figure I'm not getting quite the level of nicotine I'm used to. Blu's cartos are 13-16mg (or 1.3% to 1.6%) which is kinda low. More for a pack a day or less smoker (and the friend I'm passing the Blu kit on to is a half pack a day smoker, he'll probably do better on it than I did).

So my rule now is not to go below 1.8% or 18mg and preferably get 2.4% (24mg). See if that knocks out the rest of the urge to "have a real one". I don't get that urge much and it's not that strong. At least not for long periods of time. It's usually a problem first thing in the morning then after lunch.

Anyway, we'll see.

Oh and I've only been at this about two weeks so I'm still pretty new myself. There are many far, far more experienced folk about who know a thousand times more than I do. So take this as a fellow newbie's early experiences and double check with the experts. Like Vapoor who I've learned a ton from...
 

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Take your time in choosing.

Ayup.

Wish I'd found ECF before I bought my kit. I would have spent less and gotten better stuff.

But the Blu is going to a new home soon. Online friend of mine who has asthma has two smokers in the house (well, they go outside to smoke but it still causes problems for her). When she saw me talking about this amazing drop in my smoking with this funny "e-cig" widget, she asked about it. I suggested she get a Blu disposable or two. They're cheap and available all over the place. Her husband loved it.

She was going to buy him a kit but I put the brakes on hard on the idea of buying a Blu. I mean, they're okay but just so. Mediocre, overpriced and the cartos? Oh man. I'm tearing through them to beat the band. Not saving much cash. Then, again, he's a half pack guy, I was doing three times that at least.

Told her I'd just give him mine. I've got new stuff coming already. I was going to "PIF" (that the right term?) the Blu anyway. Told her Blu is rather like "training wheels". Lot of people seem to get started with them but move on and up as they gain experience. At least that's what I see around ECF when I run into people who began with Blu.

Said to her that it'll give him time to start figuring out this "vaping" thing and learn more and get oriented better. Also, the price is good: free.

(She fretted a bit about that but I said, nah. When I figure out a couple of favorite flavors and favorite suppliers, buy me a bottle or two if you want. I was going to give the Blu away anyway. And rather like that it's going to a friend and could help out with more than one health issue as she has a hard time with smokers being around even when they go outdoors and keep the smoke out of the house best they can.)

But yeah. Take your time is very, very, VERY excellent advice. So much to learn. So much information. I still sometimes get dizzy reading exchanges between long time vapers. Sometimes, it's like trying to read a foreign language. :)
 

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I spent a solid 200+ hrs researching before I bought my first PV. While en route spent another 150 hrs researching. When it arrived I was up and running in minutes. The only issue...fried my first 2 cartos. And that first PV from a yr and a half ago still looks great and fires A+. It's a mechanical Mod with separate batteries and to the guyz it looks "awesome" but the galz consider it ugly :confused:
 

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i just bought the starter kit 2 days ago from a local store i charged the battery as i was supposed to at first i got about 3 to 4 hours of use by the end of the night gettting about 2 to 3 of use of the blu ecig next day i was getting about an hour of use so i try to charge the battery for about 2 hours no luck still got an hour of use now the second day of use i get about 30 minutes of use

so i called blu customer service explaining what going on so i have to send my batteries to them im very disappointed going to cost me send the batteries to them and have to wait for the processing be two to 4 weeks not a happy customer

One thing I'm doing is getting two of these:

Volcano E-Cigarette Accessories

The Volcano batteries are compatible with the Blu case and USB charger. I confirmed this with Volcano before ordering them. However, Volcano warned me that you void the warranty using their batteries in the Blu chargers even though the base Blu starter kit (not the "Premium" ones, just the plain, original one... you know, the battery screws into the carry case to charge?) is pretty much the same thing as their Volcano. Which, by the way, they're discontinuing.

(Which makes you wonder... Blu only sells the basic, original starter through stores... are they dumping ones they mean to drop?)

Even then, that's a stop gap measure. I'm getting off Blu soon. They're mediocre and overpriced. Make decent disposables though.

(Also, I've started to have a disturbing suspicion about what they're up to with their disposables but that's another story)

I compare Blu to training wheels now. Lot of people seem to start with them but once you get going, you dump 'em.

And six flavors? Really? Got a shop not too far from me I haven't yet been to that sells 232 flavors. I'm almost afraid to go up there. Worried I'd just go nuts. :)
 

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(Also, I've started to have a disturbing suspicion about what they're up to with their disposables but that's another story)

Even before Lorillard Tobacco Company bought them out I never trusted them. Their idea of the future is:
pre filled sealed carts
max 14- 16 mg nicotine
No DIY and NO re filling of cartos, tanks, etc
Their high prices for a low end starter kit was the first red flag but they're making lottsa $$, are marketed very well and are achieving that goal.
 

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Even before Lorillard Tobacco Company bought them out I never trusted them. Their idea of the future is:
pre filled sealed carts
max 14- 16 mg nicotine
No DIY and NO re filling of cartos, tanks, etc
Their high prices for a low end starter kit was the first red flag but they're making lottsa $$, are marketed very well and are achieving that goal.

I find myself deeply suspicious now that the disposables are higher nicotine than their cartos. I tried the menthol disposable that first day and it was great. Liked the taste and did that really startling thing about just up and forgetting to light up a regular cig for hours. But that was at 20-24mg right? But when you buy their cartos, it's 13-16mg max.

Unfortunately for them, I'm a geek nerd from way back. I had a spreadsheet (and I wasn't afraid to use it!). I found at the rate I was going through cartos, I would end up spending as much as regular cigs.

So... higher dose for the intro product, lower dose for the high margin consumables.

Hm...

(So... guess who has a Joye arriving tomorrow? Hint: he is not a hobbit thankyewverymuch)
 
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