Newbies need help with TPA recipes...

[Kyle&Ann]

We have ordered a few flavors from TPA and are about to embark on our first attempts at DIY. We are in need of some advice from those much more experienced than us...

Our best friend (who is a chemist) and I went up to his lab and mixed 200ml of a nicotine base 40/60 (PG/VG) at approximately 24mg/ml strength. Our target nicotine level is 16-20 mg.

The favors we have are: Green Apple, Strawberry, Kiwi (double), Cinnamon Sugar Cookie, Red Bull & Blueberry (extra). The following are the juices we would like to create:

1. Green Apple
2. Strawberry-Kiwi
3. Cinnamon Sugar Cookie
4. Sweet Tart

We already have a recipe for Sweet Tart but we would love to have some help with the others. We are assuming they will be very simple recipes but have had little luck finding the %'s to use with these favors. We apologize if these are posted somewhere already and for our lack of success of finding them. Please excuse our newbie-ness!

I forgot to mention that we also have a supply of sucralose if needed. Thanks so much for your time and help.

 

[Kyle&Ann]

I probably need to add this information...

The 200ml base we mixed today was made with 100mg VG based nicotine from RTSVapes along with PG &VG. In other words...all we should have to do is add flavoring s in the recommended percentages to obtain our desired recipes. I hope this makes sense.

 

[FACE MEAT]

I bookmarked the thread that this list appeared in. I refer to it often. Hope this helps...

Absinthe: 10%
Almond Amaretto: 5-10%, 5/5
Apple: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Banana Cream 10%-15%
Banana Nut Bread: 5-7% (Great for mixing)
Bavarian Cream 5%-15%
Belgium Waffle 8-!2% 4/5
Bittersweet (Choc): 10-15%, 4/5
Black Cherry: 5-15%, 5/5
Black Honey tobacco: 3-5%
Blackberry: 6%
Black Tea 12 % 3/5 needs a little steeping
Blueberry: 15%
Blueberry Extra: 6/5 10-13%
Brown Sugar 15-20%
Bubblegum: 10%>
Butterscotch: 12%
Caramel: 10-15%, 5/5
Caramel Candy: 15-20%, 5/5
Caramel Cappuccino: 1 drop in 10ml base 4/5
Chai Tea: 10% 5/5 Very Unique, a must try
Cheesecake: 5-15%, 2/5
Cherry Blossom; 15%
Chocolate: 10-15%, 5/5
Chocolate Mint: 10% (more chocolate than mint)
Cinnamon Red Hots: 5-10%, 5/5
Cinnamon Sugar Cookie: 5%-15%
Clove: 2-3%
Coconut Extra: ~10%, 5/5
Cotton Candy: 10-20%, 5/5
DK Tab 555: 2%-5%
Dragon Fruit: 5-12%
Double Chocolate (Clear) 10-12% 4/5
Dulce de Leche: <10%> - overpowering at 20% - good for combining
Earl Grey: 5% (This is a strong Tea)
French Vanilla: 10% (For me: Gets chemical/perfume tones over 5%)
Graham Cracker: 10-15%, 5/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Grape: 12%
Green Apple: 12%
Green Tea: 10-15% 4/5
Hazelnut 16% 5/5
Hazelnut Praline: 5%, 2/5
Honey: 5% (Very present at this %)
Honeysuckle: 10- 15% - very good but FYI will crack a tank
Horchata: 5%, 5/5
Irish Cream: 10 - 12%
Juicy Peach 5%- 17%
Key Lime Pie 12%
Kona Coffee: 1drop/10ml, 4/5
Lemon/Lime 5% 4/5
Licorice 5/5 10% needs a few weeks to steep
Lime (oil-based): 1-5%, 4/5
Lychee: 5-7%
M-type Tobacco- 1% for starters... It requires a loooong steep!
Malted Milk: 5% (best mixed with other others)
Mango: 13%
Marachino Cherry: 5%, 4/5
Menthol Liquid (PG): 2-5%
Milk Chocolate: 20%, 4/5
Mint Candy: 12%, 4.5/5
Mt. Dew 10%-20%
Orange Cream: 5-10% 5/5 (To note, I am using all vg. So, I use it at higher %'s)
Papaya: 10% 5-5 (Very Fragrant)
Peach (not juicy) 12-15%
Peach (juicy): 5-7% 5/5
Peanut Butter: 10-15%, 5/5
Pear: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Peppermint: 15%
Pie Crust 12% 2/5
Pineapple: 15% 4.5/5 ( authentic flavor, I used 5% EM to sweeten)
Pizza: ~5%, 5/5
Plum: 5-10%, 4/5
Pomegranate: 7.5%-14%
Popcorn: 13%-15%
Raisin: 1-3% (Powerful)
Raspberry: 10%
Red Bull: 10%
RY4 Double- 15%
RY4 Asian: 10-15%
Smooth 2 drops per 5 ml
Spearmint: <5% Very strong start small
Strawberry: 3%-15%
Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5
Strawberries & Cream: 10-12% (good on its own, better with 3-5% EM)
Sweet Cream: 5-10%, 4/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Sweet Tart: 10%, 5/5 - Tastes more like Smarties
Tangerine (oil-based): 1-5%, 5/5
Tiramisu-- 8%-15% Over 15% tastes like burned coffee
Tobacco Blend Alcohol: 2.5%
Toasted Marshmallow: 10-15%
Toasted Almond: 15%
Tobbaco Absolute (TA): <1%
Tutti Frutti: 10-15%, 4.5/5 (closer to 15% the more VG I use)
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream: 4-8%, 4/5 (excellent mixer)
Vanilla Bourbon: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Vanilla Cupcake: 20%
Vanilla Swirl: 10%
Violet Candy: 10 - 12% (one of my favorite vapes)
Waffle: 20%, 5/5
Watermelon: 15% 4/5
Whipped Cream 14% 3/5
White Chocolate: 10% (note: mine had sugar as ingredient)
Wintergreen: 20%, 5/5
PA Sucralose Sweetener: 2%+, 4.5/5

 

[Kyle&Ann]

Wow! Thanks so much for that list. I do have a question....

Let's say I am going to make 10 ml of green apple. The list states Green Apple 12%. Does that mean I use 1.2 ml of the flavor & 8.8 ml of the premixed nicotine base that we mixed up today?

Also... Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5 what is the 1/5?

Thanks again!

 

[FACE MEAT]

Wow! Thanks so much for that list. I do have a question....


Let's say I am going to make 10 ml of green apple. The list states Green Apple 12%. Does that mean I use 1.2 ml of the flavor & 8.8 ml of the premixed nicotine base that we mixed up today?

Yes.

Also... Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5 what is the 1/5?

It's a rating that somebody (not me) gave the flavor. I haven't tried Strawberry Kiwi, so I can't give you any feedback on it. Whoever rated it was apparently a tad underwhelmed. Taste is subjective, though. You may end up loving it.

 

[Kyle&Ann]

Thanks Face Meat...you have helped us a great deal. We appreciate it a ton!

 

[Kyle&Ann]

I bookmarked the thread that this list appeared in. I refer to it often. Hope this helps...

Could you please post a link to this thread?

 

[FACE MEAT]

My pleasure. Keep us posted on how everything turns out.

I read this somewhere and forget who's to credit for this amazing piece of sage wisdom: Creating a great e-liquid is an art. Replicating it is a science.

In other words, write down everything that went into a mixture and write down tasting notes. Creating an awful e-liquid isn't nearly as frustrating as creating something sublime and not being able to recreate it.

 

[FACE MEAT]

Could you please post a link to this thread?

Here it is: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/419748-first-time-diyer-question-recipe.html

This list is constantly evolving as others add to it and tweak it. I have it saved on my computer as a document so I can add my own tweaks and changes.

 

[FACE MEAT]

Here is a more updated version:

Absinthe: 10%
Almond Amaretto: 5-10%, 5/5
Apple: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Banana Cream 10%-15%
Banana Nut Bread: 5-7% (Great for mixing)
Bavarian Cream 5%-15%
Belgium Waffle 8-!2% 4/5
Bittersweet (Choc): 10-15%, 4/5
Black Cherry: 5-15%, 5/5
Black Honey Tobacco: 3-5%
Blackberry: 6%
Black Sesame 1/10% (per eikon) that's .1 of a percent
Black Tea 12 % 3/5 needs a little steeping
Blueberry: 15%
Blueberry Extra: 6/5 10-13%
Boysenberry: 5/5 ~1% (a dash of EM & Citric make it sing)
Brown Sugar 15-20%
Bubblegum: 10%>
Butterscotch: 12%
Caramel: 10-15%, 5/5
Caramel Candy: 15-20%, 5/5
Caramel Cappuccino: 1 drop in 10ml base 4/5
Chai Tea: 10% 5/5 Very Unique, a must try
Cheesecake: 3%-15%, 2/5
Cherry Blossom; 15%
Chocolate: 10-15%, 5/5
Chocolate Mint: 10% (more chocolate than mint)
Cinnamon: 0.5% (Just Sweet Cinnamon)
Cinnamon Red Hots: 5-15%, 5/5
Cinnamon Spice: 0.5% Okay Starting Point
Cinnamon Sugar Cookie: 5%-15%
Clove: 2-3%
Coconut Extra: ~10%, 5/5
Cotton Candy: 10-20%, 5/5
DK Tab 555: 2%-5%
Dragon Fruit: 5-12%
Double Chocolate (Clear) 10-12% 4/5
Dulce de Leche: <10%> - overpowering at 20% - good for combining
Earl Grey: 5% (This is a strong Tea)
Flue Cured Tobacco: 8-15% 5/5
French Vanilla: 10% (For me: Gets chemical/perfume tones over 5%)
Graham Cracker: 10-15%, 5/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Grape: 12%
Grape Jolly Rancher: 8% - 10% 6/5
Green Apple: 12-20%
Green Tea: 10-15% 4/5
Hawaiian Punch 12% 5/5
Hazelnut 16% 5/5
Hazelnut Praline: 5%, 2/5
Hibiscus 1% (good starting point)
Holiday Spice 1-2% (start at 1%)
Honey: 5% (Very present at this %)
Honeydew Melon: 5-10%
Honeysuckle: 10- 15% - very good but FYI will crack a tank
Horchata: 5%, 5/5
Irish Cream: 10 - 12%
Juicy Peach 5%- 17%
Key Lime Pie 12%
Kona Coffee: 1drop/10ml, 4/5
Lemon/Lime 5% 4/5
Licorice 5/5 10% needs a few weeks to steep
Lime (oil-based): 1-5%, 4/5
Lychee:2-7%
M-type Tobacco- 1% for starters... It requires a loooong steep!
Malted Milk: 5% (best mixed with other others)
Mango: 13%
Marischino Cherry: 5%, 4/5
Menthol Liquid (PG): 1-5%
Milk Chocolate: 20%, 4/5
Mint Candy: 12%, 4.5/5
Mt. Dew 10%-20%
Nectarine: 11%
Orange Cream: 5-10% 5/5 (To note, I am using all vg. So, I use it at higher %'s)
Papaya: 10% 5-5 (Very Fragrant)
Peach (not juicy) 12-15%
Peach (juicy): 5-7% 5/5
Peanut Butter: 10-15%, 5/5
Pear: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Peppermint: 15%
Pie Crust 2-12% 2/5
Pineapple: 15% 4.5/5 ( authentic flavor, I used 5% EM to sweeten)
Pizza: ~5%, 5/5
Plum: 5-10%, 4/5
Pomegranate: 7.5%-14%
Popcorn: 13%-15%
Raisin: 0.5-3% (Powerful) I dilute mine before mixing 1:3
Raspberry:5-10%
Red Bull: 10%
Ripe Banana: 8-12% (3-5% EM to make it a good stand alone flavor)
RY4 Double- 5-15%
RY4 Asian: 10-15%
Smooth 1 drops per 10 ml
Spearmint: <5% Very strong start small
Strawberry: 3%-15%
Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5
Strawberries & Cream: 10-12% (good on its own, better with 3-5% EM)
Sweet Cream: 5-10%, 4/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
Sweet Tart: 10%, 5/5 - Tastes more like Smarties
Tangerine (oil-based): 1-5%, 5/5
Tiramisu 2%-15% Over 5% tastes like burned coffee
Tobacco Blend Alcohol: 0.5-2.5%
Toasted Marshmallow: 10-15%
Toasted Almond: 15%
Tobacco Absolute (TA): <1%
Tutti Frutti: 10-15%, 4.5/5 (closer to 15% the more VG I use)
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream: 4-8%, 4/5 (excellent mixer)
Vanilla Bourbon: 10-15%, 4.5/5
Vanilla Cupcake: 20%
Vanilla Swirl: 10%
Violet Candy: 10 - 12% (one of my favorite vapes)
Waffle: 20%, 5/5
Watermelon: 15% 4/5
Whipped Cream 3% to 14% 3/5
White Chocolate: 10% (note: mine had sugar as ingredient)
Wintergreen: 20%, 5/5
PA Sucralose Sweetener: 2%+, 4.5/5

 

[Kyle&Ann]

Here it is: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/419748-first-time-diyer-question-recipe.html

This list is constantly evolving as others add to it and tweak it. I have it saved on my computer as a document so I can add my own tweaks and changes.

I deleted this last post...I figured out where I went astray. Thanks again Face Meat!

 

[Calivapr123]

The Kiwi Double is not on the list @FaceMeat provided ... I believe it is a new flavor.

I do have Kiwi Double and have mixed it with Strawberry Cream , and Honey. (All from TFA)

I started off with 5% of each, 0 Nic, 60%VG.

It really wasn't all that bad, but definitely the Kiwi Double is a powerful concentrate and it dominated everybody in this recipe. I diluted the juice such that the Kiwi-D is reduced down to 2.5%, while maintaining 5% each from the other 2 ingredients. I haven't tried it yet as I've been busy with other juices, but later today will be a good time.

I will obviously expect the Kiwi-D to be toned down and the Strawberry and Honey to be more present. I'll report back.

PS -- The Kiwi-D was so strong that I could not remove the taste of Kiwi from the tank I used, even after I had soaked it for several hours in hot water. I also soaked in Isopropyl Alcohol and washed it, but the taste and smell Kiwi was still evident. I eventually left it soaking overnight, and that cured took most of it away. It still lingered for there for another day, but it's completely gone now.

 

[JD1]

.......PS -- The Kiwi-D was so strong that I could not remove the taste of Kiwi from the tank I used, even after I had soaked it for several hours in hot water. I also soaked in Isopropyl Alcohol and washed it, but the taste and smell Kiwi was still evident. I eventually left it soaking overnight, and that cured took most of it away. It still lingered for there for another day, but it's completely gone now.

I like to use a little hydrogen peroxide to clean with. It works really well to freshen things up, but I've never tried it on anything really stubborn, like what you're describing.

 

[Hoosier]

I'm glad I read this thread. I never thought that Kiwi would be a sticky flavor. It seems like a light one...

Not feeling so bad about it sitting in the back rows of my flavoring bottles now. Pulled it out Sunday and wondered why I hadn't done anything with it yet and set it on the table. Made some juice for my family and a bunch of experiments and was putting everything back and realized I still forgot the Kiwi. Now if I find any experiment that turns out great, I'll completely forget about Kiwi yet again...

 

[Kyle&Ann]

The Kiwi Double is not on the list @FaceMeat provided ... I believe it is a new flavor.

I do have Kiwi Double and have mixed it with Strawberry Cream , and Honey. (All from TFA)

I started off with 5% of each, 0 Nic, 60%VG.

It really wasn't all that bad, but definitely the Kiwi Double is a powerful concentrate and it dominated everybody in this recipe. I diluted the juice such that the Kiwi-D is reduced down to 2.5%, while maintaining 5% each from the other 2 ingredients. I haven't tried it yet as I've been busy with other juices, but later today will be a good time.

I will obviously expect the Kiwi-D to be toned down and the Strawberry and Honey to be more present. I'll report back.

PS -- The Kiwi-D was so strong that I could not remove the taste of Kiwi from the tank I used, even after I had soaked it for several hours in hot water. I also soaked in Isopropyl Alcohol and washed it, but the taste and smell Kiwi was still evident. I eventually left it soaking overnight, and that cured took most of it away. It still lingered for there for another day, but it's completely gone now.

All very good info. Thanks very much. The recipe I found said to mix the flavors 60% Kiwi and 40% Strawberry. With your info, I am really rethinking that ratio. Hmmmm...what to do? Maybe 30% kiwi 70% Strawberry. Keep in mind it is a 15-20% ratio of flavor s added to 80-85% base.

Thanks again for that info!

 

[Kyle&Ann]

The base is 60% VG @ approximately 22-24 mg strength. Target nic level is 16-20 mg.

 

[Calivapr123]

All very good info. Thanks very much. The recipe I found said to mix the flavors 60% Kiwi and 40% Strawberry. With your info, I am really rethinking that ratio. Hmmmm...what to do? Maybe 30% kiwi 70% Strawberry. Keep in mind it is a 15-20% ratio of flavor s added to 80-85% base.

Thanks again for that info!

You're welcome - note that I used the Kiwi-Double flavor, and not the regular-strength Kiwi, and that's why it came out so strong.