Newest B&M Scam

[tj99959]

Most of the vapors I know vape 3mg nic. Most vape shops are always "sold out" of 3mg nic options. They ALWAYS have 6mg nic and 0mg nic though, for the most sought after juice. It's such a joke and such a scam. I'm glad I mostly vape diy.

12mg vaped at a lower wattage ends up being the same nicotine intake. So why are you buying all that juice?
Sub ohm/high wattage vaping is the scam. Your B&M loves you.

Think about it, all they are really selling more of is PG&VG, which only costs $25/gallon. Your nicotine intake remains the same. Big clouds = big profits.

 

[NancyR]

The part that ticks me off with juice at my local B&M's is try to get a high vg over 6 mg. Most will look at you like you lost your mind, but they carry pg dom juices up to 24 mg.

 

[SissySpike]

The part that ticks me off with juice at my local B&M's is try to get a high vg over 6 mg. Most will look at you like you lost your mind, but they carry pg dom juices up to 24 mg.

Yea I try to buy juice made in house when Im buying B&M juice.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

B&Ms are a business first. Most B&Ms have limited money to put towards e-juice, devices, parts, etc. If the manager feels trhat something just doesn't sell very well, they will limit their stock purchases for that item.

And nobody has a requirement that a vape shop manager have a degree in Buisiness Administration.

I suspect that better managers are with on-line businesses where a good web-experiece, scheduling, processes, equipment, sales, contests, customer involvement is making them successful. They are coming at you with e-mails to get you back, as compared to, "come again soon".


IMHO

 

[Hitmetwice]

With the vast array of flavours available it just may not be feasable for a smaller biz to carry not only
5 or 6 different strengths of the same liquid but different pg/vg ratios as well.

Could you imagine the nightmare they'd have dealing with even just 3 pg/vg ratios along with 5 diff nic strengths
for EACH flavour?

But OP I do agree, it is/would be a little frustrating having to drop double the cash than you'd planned. Cheers.

 

[philoshop]

This is an easy one. Since all of your friends are vaping 3mg, go with one of those friends and take an empty bottle with you. You buy the 6mg, your friend buys the 0mg, and you use the empty bottle to mix the 3mg and then mix the two half-bottles together. Each of you goes home with exactly one bottle of 3mg.

 

[TaketheRedPill]

Absorption of nicotine is not 100%, it's more like 50%, so there isn't much demand in the larger vaping community for 3mg/ml eliquid, since ingesting 1-3mg nicotine a day (1-2ml) would be ineffective for almost everyone for smoking cessation.

Because only about 50% is absorbed, a 1-3pk a day smoker using traditional vaping equipment needs starting nicotine strength levels of 11 to 24 or 36mg to get enough nicotine each day to replace cigarettes. So that's why rebottlers have standardized their nicotine solutions to what they are.

Nicotine levels are based on a vaping style of 1-3/ml day: Low is usually 6mg Medium is usually 11mg Medium High is usually 18mg High is usually 18mg, but could be 24mg Extra High is usually 24mg (and still is many places) but could be 36mg

Taking into consideration that high-watt vaping wastes eliquid like a pirate, wouldn't it be more economical to have one device to deliver maintenance level nicotine, for a few puffs once an hour or so, and another, with 0 nic, for amusement purposes?

 

[Thrasher]

much better to be a victim of the juice barons than do something practical!

Reminds me of the great wiener drought in the 80's when the wiener barons manipulated the prices of quality beef franks to force consumers into buying more chicken dogs.

I always concluded it was just a bunch of bologny anyways

 

[DaveSignal]

it could be a scam, if stores don't even order enough 3 mg, and then turn around and "have" to sell you 2 bottles (i.e. 0 mg and 6 mg) instead of just one bottle of what you actually wanted

just a thought

Instead of buying two bottles, you could just buy the 6mg and mix it with VG, the main ingredient. It will still taste great and you can change the nicotine level to your preference. I tend to only purchase 3mg juices from online vendors that cater to drippers... i.e.: they have a large stock of 3mg. But the VG mix is a good option if you need something immediately from your local B&M.

 

[juggler86]

I dont know anybody who buys 3mg and it must not be common in my are because the B&Ms are usually out of 6mg, but have lots of 3mg. When this happens I usually have to buy a flav available in 6mg because most of my store bought juice isnt name available in 12mg. In the end you can still get your 3mg and I cant get my 6mg

 

[Bad Ninja]

Reminds me of the great wiener drought in the 80's when the wiener barons manipulated the prices of quality beef franks to force consumers into buying more chicken dogs.

I always concluded it was just a bunch of bologny anyways

It was all orchestrated by Abe Froman, sausage king of Chicago.

 

[AndriaD]

I got an idea.....buy small bottle of unflavored nic so when stuck in that situation again, you can buy a single bottle of zero, take it home and put a few drops in,shake it and call it a day?

I used to do a version of this, since I vape an odd level (9mg at the time, 10mg now). I always vaped Virginia from MFS then, so I bought a 30ml bottle of 24mg, the highest mg they sell before the price goes up; then, for each order, I'd just order some 6mg, in whatever size -- that 30ml bottle of 24mg lasted a *while* just using it to increase the nic level of my 6mg to 9mg.

Andria

 

[OlderNDirt]

I must be way out of touch and in an odd, personal situation! Being almost 100 miles from decent B&M's, I have been hoping to get them to provide their juices in bottles larger then 30mi, since I only get there at most, once a month. Then we have had threads where many claim to be going through 10mi or more juice a day, that's 30mi in 3 days if using just one juice and 300mi of total juice a month. I guess I just don't understand the problem of buying two 30mi bottles of your great juice at a time.

I think I happen to have some very good B&M's to deal with and it is frustrating when I do get there and they are out of one of my favorite juices, but I am willing to cut them some slack knowing they cannot maintain enough stock of everything they sell.

 

[SissySpike]

I must be way out of touch and in an odd, personal situation! Being almost 100 miles from decent B&M's, I have been hoping to get them to provide their juices in bottles larger then 30mi, since I only get there at most, once a month. Then we have had threads where many claim to be going through 10mi or more juice a day, that's 30mi in 3 days if using just one juice and 300mi of total juice a month. I guess I just don't understand the problem of buying two 30mi bottles of your great juice at a time.

I think I happen to have some very good B&M's to deal with and it is frustrating when I do get there and they are out of one of my favorite juices, but I am willing to cut them some slack knowing they cannot maintain enough stock of everything they sell.

If you can find something you like from MBV they sell 236 ml bottles

 

[beckdg]

it could be a scam, if stores don't even order enough 3 mg, and then turn around and "have" to sell you 2 bottles (i.e. 0 mg and 6 mg) instead of just one bottle of what you actually wanted

just a thought

If you buy a carton of cigs a week or 10 packs a week, which way would you smoke more?

Tapatyped

 

[Skyway]

a 1-3pk a day smoker using traditional vaping equipment needs starting nicotine strength levels of 11 to 24 or 36mg to get enough nicotine each day to replace cigarettes. So that's why rebottlers have standardized their nicotine solutions to what they are.

Nicotine levels are based on a vaping style of 1-3/ml day: Low is usually 6mg Medium is usually 11mg Medium High is usually 18mg High is usually 18mg, but could be 24mg Extra High is usually 24mg (and still is many places) but could be 36mg

I don't really believe in this logic. Initially that may be the case at first thought but once someone learns how to quit properly and switch to vaping, I find the strength of the nic has more to do with the TH, especially if they straight lung hit. I was a somewhat heavy smoker bitd but I could never do over 18mg because it was just too harsh on the throat with the devices I was using. New Vapor's should not be vaping only when they get a nic urge at a 24mg if it is too harsh for them. They should be vaping all the time throughout the day at a comfortable level of a TH for their tastes. This settles those urges instead of getting spikes.

 

[SissySpike]

If you buy a carton of cigs a week or 10 packs a week, which way would you smoke more?

Tapatyped

thats just silly everyone knows you drink more when you buy by the carton

 

[Izan]

I got an idea.....buy small bottle of unflavored nic so when stuck in that situation again, you can buy a single bottle of zero, take it home and put a few drops in,shake it and call it a day?

I think that will be the future of "hobby" vaping.

For example: If five pawns decided to "skip" FDA certs and the related issues, could they not just STOP adding nicotine to the final product?

Each bottle would include 10% extra space for a few drops of high strength (5-10% (50mg/ml-100mg/ml)) solution to be added by the consumer at home or at the vape store. Sure we may pay tax on the nic base, but we get to keep all the flavors we love and the associated small businesses.

From a store owners perspective, (INAV) only keeping ONE strength of each flavor (0MG/ML) makes the most business sense.

cheers
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[jaytex1969]

If you buy a carton of cigs a week or 10 packs a week, which way would you smoke more?

Cut my pizza in six slices, please. I don't think I could eat eight.....

 

[Libbydude]

The day I consider buying 3mg juice will be the day I flip a coin to determine whether or not I shall continue vaping! Lol. It's a vape shop conspiracy to make us reevaluate our habit!