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If you can find something you like from MBV they sell 236 ml bottles

I've come up with 3 of theirs I really like so far, but haven't gotten into the big bottles yet as I am fiddling around with their flavor shots and pg/vg ratios and still trying some new ones with each order. Oh, and I am keeping the used bottles with labels for apportioning the big bottle out! :)
 

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I must be way out of touch and in an odd, personal situation! Being almost 100 miles from decent B&M's, I have been hoping to get them to provide their juices in bottles larger then 30mi, since I only get there at most, once a month. Then we have had threads where many claim to be going through 10mi or more juice a day, that's 30mi in 3 days if using just one juice and 300mi of total juice a month. I guess I just don't understand the problem of buying two 30mi bottles of your great juice at a time.

I think I happen to have some very good B&M's to deal with and it is frustrating when I do get there and they are out of one of my favorite juices, but I am willing to cut them some slack knowing they cannot maintain enough stock of everything they sell.

OFFTOPIC...I hear ya...
When I used to go to the store to buy beer(we have a special store for that here in Canuckistan)
I'd always sorta chuckle at guys in there picking up one or 2 cans of beer at a time (for just that 1 night I guess) as I picked up my 4 cases(of 24) for the week.

Now we've(wife and i) moved on to getting one can every 3 weeks or so, it's a 50 liter keg, and I tell ya, it sure saves a lot of runnin' around and trippin' over empties. Cheers.
 

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Absorption of nicotine is not 100%, it's more like 50%, so there isn't much demand in the larger vaping community for 3mg/ml eliquid, since ingesting 1-3mg nicotine a day (1-2ml) would be ineffective for almost everyone for smoking cessation.

Because only about 50% is absorbed, a 1-3pk a day smoker using traditional vaping equipment needs starting nicotine strength levels of 11 to 24 or 36mg to get enough nicotine each day to replace cigarettes. So that's why rebottlers have standardized their nicotine solutions to what they are.

Nicotine levels are based on a vaping style of 1-3/ml day: Low is usually 6mg Medium is usually 11mg Medium High is usually 18mg High is usually 18mg, but could be 24mg Extra High is usually 24mg (and still is many places) but could be 36mg

Taking into consideration that high-watt vaping wastes eliquid like a pirate, wouldn't it be more economical to have one device to deliver maintenance level nicotine, for a few puffs once an hour or so, and another, with 0 nic, for amusement purposes?

Actually you cannot overdose on nic. Your body would start rejecting it so it really doesn't matter what nic you use. If you use a higher nic you will not have to smoke as much to get that fix as if you used a lower nic.
 

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Actually you cannot overdose on nic. Your body would start rejecting it so it really doesn't matter what nic you use. If you use a higher nic you will not have to smoke as much to get that fix as if you used a lower nic.

If you Vape 12mg on lets say a 1.2 ohm cartomizer then you switch one day 12 mg on a .5 ohm RDA or sub tank your nic intake will be much higher because if nothing else the volume of vapor also if you go from mouth hit to lung hit IMO you get the nic faster so you can overdose causing nausea and or a light headed feeling.

How can your body reject something you put there its to late you cant throw it up or anything?
 

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If you Vape 12mg on lets say a 1.2 ohm cartomizer then you switch one day 12 mg on a .5 ohm RDA or sub tank your nic intake will be much higher because if nothing else the volume of vapor also if you go from mouth hit to lung hit IMO you get the nic faster so you can overdose causing nausea and or a light headed feeling.

How can your body reject something you put there its to late you cant throw it up or anything?

Right on!
RDAs are ridiculously efficient nicotine delivery systems.
 

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THIS JUST IN:

Don't go there.

You can always order offline usin' that innernet.

your a B&M guy I bet you guys sit around and laugh about how your scamming people in to buying more volume of juice for the same price they would pay for half. You guys are right up there with IMRON and Berny!!!!!
 

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Actually you cannot overdose on nic. Your body would start rejecting it so it really doesn't matter what nic you use. If you use a higher nic you will not have to smoke as much to get that fix as if you used a lower nic.
Funny...

Seems there's lots of opinions on this. Yet I'm the only one who's ever come close to testing this theory.

Yes... nic sick... yadda, yadda

But I'm still unsuccessful at anything more than making someone woozy with my setups.

Ponder that for a moment.

Tapatyped
 

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Actually you cannot overdose on nic. Your body would start rejecting it so it really doesn't matter what nic you use. If you use a higher nic you will not have to smoke as much to get that fix as if you used a lower nic.

Your body will not 'reject' it if you vape too much nic, but you will start feeling sick and will probably stop vaping for a bit until it subsides. OTOH if you drink juice, if you are healthy you will probably vomit before it does you much harm.

When I switched to vaping I used 18 mg juice. It was too high for me to be able to vape through cigarette pangs because it wouldn't let me vape enough drags per hour. I was more addicted to the chemicals in cigarette smoke that we don't get from vaping than just the nic. I see similar experiences from other people too.

Cigarette addiction is not a simple case of just nicotine addiction.
 

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Taking into consideration that high-watt vaping wastes eliquid like a pirate, wouldn't it be more economical to have one device to deliver maintenance level nicotine, for a few puffs once an hour or so, and another, with 0 nic, for amusement purposes?

Uh oh....I smell a new scam in the making! "I went in to buy a mod, and they told me I needed 3 mods"
 

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There are always people who will advocate some ridiculous amount of nicotine in some tank with low airflow and low vapor production is better because it takes so long to vape the juice, you can use so little juice and still get nicotine! ...and you have to pull really hard and mouth to lung it and use high pg juice that is less comfortable because the thing won't wick otherwise.

And some people don't like that.

I like to eat well cooked food, and frequently go out to restaurants. It would be a whole lot cheaper though if I would just eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches or eat cereal all day. I could never go hungry again eating just cereal and sandwiches. And I would save a ton of money! But thats just not the way that I want to live life.
 

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Funny...

Seems there's lots of opinions on this. Yet I'm the only one who's ever come close to testing this theory.

Yes... nic sick... yadda, yadda

But I'm still unsuccessful at anything more than making someone woozy with my setups.

Ponder that for a moment.

Tapatyped


These are all symptoms of over dose While to much nic wont kill you if you are in good health you can certainly over dose the good thing is the symptoms are mild and short lived.

Problems with vital signs (temperature, pulse rate, respiratory rate, blood pressure) are possible and can be life threatening. Vital sign values can be increased, decreased, or completely absent.
Sleepiness, confusion, and coma are common and can be dangerous if the person breathes vomit into the lungs (aspirated).
Skin can be cool and sweaty, or hot and dry.
Chest pain is possible and can be caused by heart or lung damage. Shortness of breath may occur. Breathing may get rapid, slow, deep, or shallow.
Abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, and ........ are possible. Vomiting blood, or blood in bowel movements, can be life-threatening.
Specific drugs can damage specific organs, depending on the drug.

EDIT: these are symptoms from overdose of other drugs also just wanted to clarify that
 
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    Right on!
    RDAs are ridiculously efficient nicotine delivery systems.

    Disagree!
    They can be the least efficient way to vape that there is.
    It take 2-3 times as much PG/VG to get the same amount of nicotine into your system. It takes as much as 10 times the battery power to deliver the same amount of nicotine. So just how can you figure that it's "efficient"?
     
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