Newest B&M Scam

[DC2]

I am probably horribly mangling the quote, and I don't know who first said it, but a desire for power should automatically disqualify the person seeking it.

Yeah, I read a similar quote a long time ago, and have never been able to find it again.
I am pretty sure it came from one of the old Greek philosophers.

The way I remember, it went something like this...
Those best suited to govern are those that don't want to.

 

[beckdg]

Competition juice costs money...

Humco Glycerin USP Skin Protectant, 6 oz

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Humco-Glycerin-USP-Skin-Protectant-6-oz/10417582



Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

yeah, the high VG juices are mostly aimed at rda's, most gourmet/boutique type juices I find are only 12mg and under due to them being mostly VG and used in RDA's like Dave said. vaping 24-36mg in an RDA is a killer, more harsh than a guy smoking unfiltereds. its like razors in your throat.

Depends a lot on the quality of nic used.

My 50mg is less harsh than the 4 mg I make... and most 6mg vendor juice I've tried.

Tapatyped

 

[MrStik]

To the OP.

There are MANY workarounds for your "situation" and many more than creating such a thread that has no merit to life. What you didn't realize about them "forcing" you to buy twice the quantity of juice is that they are actually saving you time and money.

I will use myself as an example.
My car gets 20 mpg city driving.
My vape shop of choice is 7.5 miles from my home.
Driving time will take anywhere from 10-20 minutes depending on traffic on the i5 in OC, CA
Time spent in shop would be about 10 mins. So total time from garage to store and back would be roughly 30-45 mins.
With gas prices currently at 3 dollars per gallon, a round trip of 15 miles = 2.25 dollars worth of gas
My current salary I am getting paid is 36.41 per hour. So a 30 min trip would cost 18.21 of my time and 45 mins costs 27.31.
If 1 bottle of juice lasts 1 week and "forcing" you to purchase 2 would last you 2 weeks, then in a year, it would eliminate 26 trips to the store.
So on the low end a trip to the vape store and back costs me 20.46 and in a year that would mean a savings of 531.96
On the high end 29.56 and in a year a savings of 768.56

Ok... Now I am sure that this post of mine may be ridiculous, but then again so is this thread for being started. Scam? really? Bust out the foil hat...

 

[K_Tech]

Ok... Now I am sure that this post of mine may be ridiculous, but then again so is this thread for being started. Scam? really? Bust out the foil hat...

Not ridiculous at all. I myself often put things in terms of time and gas spent.

 

[ronscave]

Quote Originally Posted by ronscave View Post

Ok the way I see it. Say you only want 30ml and 30 will cost you $15, but your forced to buy two 15ml bottles (0mg and 6mg). The 15ml cost $9.50 so now you've spent $19 to get your 30ml worth or $4 more for the same amount. I've been in that situation myself and yeah I kind of felt ripped off.

Or, instead of feeling "forced" to buy "half-bottles", you could simply buy two bottles.

Sure, it would be exactly twice the price, not just 4 bucks more... but, fortunaly, it would also last for exactly twice the time. So, on average, you would be spending... wait for it... exactly the same amount per week...!

How is it a "scam", if in the end, you still spend the same ? "Buy two for the price of two" is neither a scam, nor a promotion. It's just that... the normal, everyday price for TWO bottles of e-liquid, which will last for the DOUBLE of time.

ummm........ because as this story goes "They" are out of 30ml bottles, hense the reason to have to buy the 15's. as your forced to If you want your 30ml juice.

 

[jrs99]

The kind of vendors that sell those premium high VG juices are catering to a different demographic.... mostly people who have past the clearomizer stage and are using RDAs... many of whom are hobbyist fanatics obsessed with vapor and flavor.

Trust me, I'm well past the clearo stage. I want throat hit first (actually more like thoat kick. I want it to almost hurt), flavor second and nice vapor third. I'm not a cloud chaser at all but I do prefer 100% VG or at the very least high VG.
I like gourmet 100% VG juice but I want it in high nic

I have no direct knowledge, but I was lead to believe that the West Coast trend was towards low nic / big clouds.

This is exactly what the guy behind the counter told me.
I definitely noticed a different vaping scene out in CA. Sitting in traffic it was easy to see who was vaping by the massive clouds coming out of the windows. I see vapes all over the place here in MD/VA but no clouds even close to what I saw out in CA.
Even as a non cloud chaser I will admit I was a little jealous of the clouds.

One great thing I saw was while I was out at Camp Pendleton was more young Marines vaping than smoking.
Of course they all had drippers with these big arsed "chuf" tips. I asked to try one of theirs, pulled the DT off my mod and sat there for a minute trying to figure out how the hell my tip was supposed to fit in this...

 

[DC2]

I definitely noticed a different vaping scene out in CA. Sitting in traffic it was easy to see who was vaping by the massive clouds coming out of the windows. I see vapes all over the place here in MD/VA but no clouds even close to what I saw out in CA.

This is true.

Even as a non cloud chaser I will admit I was a little jealous of the clouds.

But when I see that I tend to cringe just thinking about what non-vapers are thinking.

One great thing I saw was while I was out at Camp Pendleton was more young Marines vaping than smoking.

As someone who has gone to all the vape shops within 20 miles of here, I can verify your statement.
I saw mostly young Marines at many of those vape shops.

Up in Los Angeles, the vaping scene is even more extreme.
But the demographic is different.

Still mostly young people, but not Marines.

 

[stevegmu]

Humco Glycerin USP Skin Protectant, 6 oz

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Humco-Glycerin-USP-Skin-Protectant-6-oz/10417582



Tapatyped

That doesn't have a label saying competition, or cloud chaser, or professional or max Vg...

 

[beckdg]

That doesn't have a label saying competition, or cloud chaser, or professional or max Vg...

Would you like me to print one?



Tapatyped

 

[KGB7]

A scam?? Its called business. If there is lack of demand for a product, then im not going to waist thousands of $$ just to satisfy few customers, when i know for a fact that 99% of the customers want 0 or 6mg juice.

If you want 3mg juice, then buy it online.

 

[jpargana]

Quote Originally Posted by ronscave View Post

Ok the way I see it. Say you only want 30ml and 30 will cost you $15, but your forced to buy two 15ml bottles (0mg and 6mg). The 15ml cost $9.50 so now you've spent $19 to get your 30ml worth or $4 more for the same amount. I've been in that situation myself and yeah I kind of felt ripped off.





ummm........ because as this story goes "They" are out of 30ml bottles, hense the reason to have to buy the 15's. as your forced to If you want your 30ml juice.

Maybe I misread you. In that situation, I would simply buy elsewere, where 30ml bottles would be available.

And the first vendor would quickly learn to have 30ml bottles available. Or not, if the majority of his OTHER costumers prefer to buy 15ml. In that case, it is not a "scam". Maybe YOU were the oddity there, by wanting a 30ml bottle. You'll never know.

Anyway, I may have been misguided because the "scam" presented in the OP was not "not having 30ml bottles available", but rather, "not having 3mg/ml available, forcing me to buy two 30ml bottles for the exact price of two 30ml bottles".

That was the "scam" that started this useless thread

 

[WharfRat1976]

A scam?? Its called business. If there is lack of demand for a product, then im not going to waist thousands of $$ just to satisfy few customers, when i know for a fact that 99% of the customers want 0 or 6mg juice.

If you want 3mg juice, then buy it online.

Yea, if I owned a vape shop and 90% of my customers wanted 3mg nic I would only stock 0mg and 6mg nic of the most popular juice that can only be bought at my shop. This would force all of my great customers to buy 2 bottles instead of one bottle thus doubling my sales.

 

[KGB7]

Yea, if I owned a vape shop and 90% of my customers wanted 3mg nic I would only stock 0mg and 6mg nic of the most popular juice that can only be bought at my shop. This would force all of my great customers to buy 2 bottles instead of one bottle thus doubling my sales.

You could do that, but these customers will try to buy it from another local shops or buy it online. So at the end of the day you are taking a gamble in hope that your customers will always buy 2 bottles to get a 3mg mix.

My local go to B&M doesnt sell 0mg or 3mg the juice that i vape, 6mg and up only. Ill buy that 6mg and then mix it with my own stash of 0mg juice that i bought online in large quantity. Through my own mix and match experimenting, i found a good combination of two juices that give me an awesome flavor at 3mg.But i prefer juice closer to 4mg. And thankfully another local B&M sells their own brand juice at 4mg.

 

[SissySpike]

Yea, if I owned a vape shop and 90% of my customers wanted 3mg nic I would only stock 0mg and 6mg nic of the most popular juice that can only be bought at my shop. This would force all of my great customers to buy 2 bottles instead of one bottle thus doubling my sales.

Again you are not doubling anything except for the volume that person buys at one time. The person will use the 60ml of juice at the same rate as he used 30ml so the shop did not get anymore or less money from that person.
The big loser in this equation is the oil companys they did not profit from the gas needed to drive to the vape shop twice instead of once.

So if you made 52 trips to the vape shop per year to buy 1 30 ml per week now your only making 26 trips so you are 26 times less likely to make a impulse buy at their shop so in fact this deceptive practice buy said vendor is only going to save its customers money.

 

[WharfRat1976]

Again you are not doubling anything except for the volume that person buys at one time. The person will use the 60ml of juice at the same rate as he used 30ml so the shop did not get anymore or less money from that person.
The big loser in this equation is the oil companys they did not profit from the gas needed to drive to the vape shop twice instead of once.

So if you made 52 trips to the vape shop per year to buy 1 30 ml per week now your only making 26 trips so you are 26 times less likely to make a impulse buy at their shop so in fact this deceptive practice buy said vendor is only going to save its customers money.

So if I only want to by 26 bottles in a year, I would only have make 13 trips?

 

[SissySpike]

So if I only want to by 26 bottles in a year, I would only have make 13 trips?

if you normally bought 26 30ml bottles and you bought instead 60 ml yes youed only make 13 trips now if you were to get 90mls at one shot youed only have to make 7.5 trips per year I can not explain how you make a half trip and still end up with the juice but the numbers dont lie! ;-)

 

[jaytex1969]

The older I get, the more valuable my time has become.

I like to make the long trip from the living room to the computer room, order exactly what I want in large quantities with free shipping and then watch stupid cat videos with all the time I saved. The money I saved goes to ammo and bike parts.

Almost all of my local B&M purchases are for when I meet someone who offers exceptional customer service. I know I'm paying more for it, but the few really cool folks we meet deserve our support.


Jay

 

[martinc]

if you normally bought 26 30ml bottles and you bought instead 60 ml yes youed only make 13 trips now if you were to get 90mls at one shot youed only have to make 7.5 trips per year I can not explain how you make a half trip and still end up with the juice but the numbers dont lie! ;-)

I`d bring a pillow for the .5 trip

 

[KGB7]

The above replies are hilarious. Probably because im over tired from working 10 hours straight with a 15min dinner break, had a great day and after 3 Heinekens you couldnt ruin my night even if you tried.

Cheers.