Nhaler Announces, The Kick by EVOLV!!!

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    Ok, I found a calculator online that says in a perfect world with enough battery power behind it that the dual coils could pull 24 watts total. That is with a load voltage and amperage of 6v and 4amps. I am pretty sure we're not pulling 4 amps out of these tenergy batteries and most likely the load voltage is under six.
     

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    Ok, I found a calculator online that says in a perfect world with enough battery power behind it that the dual coils could pull 24 watts total. That is with a load voltage and amperage of 6v and 4amps. I am pretty sure we're not pulling 4 amps out of these tenergy batteries and most likely the load voltage is under six.

    Hmm maybe we can can get someone with a Darwin and a GGTS to do a little test for us. Someone with a pair of 3v batterys. (or another mod that will hold 2 3v)

    Set the darwin to around 12w and set the GGTS up with the 2 6v and take back to back hits. I have a feeling it will be similar. I know when I was messing around with my iAtty 12w from it was very similar to these dc's at 6v.
     

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    I think if you do the same calculations with 2, 3 ohm resitors in parallel you will see more acurate (but still not right) dividends.

    Ok, I found a calculator online that says in a perfect world with enough battery power behind it that the dual coils could pull 24 watts total. That is with a load voltage and amperage of 6v and 4amps. I am pretty sure we're not pulling 4 amps out of these tenergy batteries and most likely the load voltage is under six.
     

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    This would give me an excellent reason to pick up a purty tube mod...

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    Well that's what I put into the calculator was two 3ohm resistors and it said it would drop 2 amps across each one in parallel with a 6v supply. It said there was 12 watts applied to each resistor. Here's a link. See what you think. The calculator is at the bottom of the page.

    Series vs Parallel Electrical Connections

    However, I don't think the 3v tenergy batteries will deliver that much power. I don't know that for sure but would think that the batteries are limiting the output watts.
     

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    I agree....I actually did the same calculations raw and cant see 4 amps being out out by those batts...Im gonna call Brandon when hes in front of his computer and see what we can figure out...I will report back later... However, The final thought is that you would use one of my 2.0 or 2.5 Ohm dual coil cartos to REALLY make them sing witth the kick and prolong battery life, but NOT with 6 volts ....Just a 3.7 volt battery.
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    The maths on all of this looks fine, until you factor i the drain ability of the batteries. 16340s are likely to be be 2C batteries, which means if they're rated at 800mAH (and what it says on the label is no necessarily true) then 1.6 amps is the best a stacked pair will put out at their stated voltage - anything above that will show a voltage drop. At 4 amps, the voltage could be as much as 30% down on nominal - and the experience is likely to bear that out.
    24 watts of heat going into an atomiser - no matter how many coils - would result in blisteringly hot vapour. But, 10C batteries would do the job ( that is, effectively, batteries capable of discharging to lowest safe voltage in six minutes without overheating or showing a fault - properly high drain)

    I'm running a 2.6 ohm Dual Coil atty in my GGTS/UFS with the Kick set at 9.5 watts (ish) and it's delivering like a steam loco on full thrutch. That likely means it's a little cool for some tastes, but it's thick, chewy and delicious!!
     
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    I am hoping too! :)

    I personally don't think the Production unit will go beyond 10W. The Darwin can hit 12.7W, but it is starting out with a 7V+ power source. The Kick is boosting a much smaller 3.7V power source. I am certainly no electronic genius but that tells me that 10w is about right. With that said, In basic, old vaping terms, I am basically a "5V" vaper, yet I hardly ever feel the need to go beyond 9-9.5W on my Darwins and that is an incredible vape.
     
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    Yep Cuse.....I seldom ever go above 9.3 watts.....I guess I just "tailored my carto ohm rating" to achieve a great vape while using the minimum amperage, thus extending battery life......so the ohm ratings of the cartos is 2.7 to 3.1 ohms for me.....thus 8.4 to 8.8 watts and all is good here.....
     
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    I personally don't think the Production unit will go beyond 10W. The Darwin can hit 12.7W, but it is starting out with a 7V+ power source. The Kick is boosting a much smaller 3.7V power source. I am certainly no electronic genius but that tells me that 10w is about right. With that said, In basic, old vaping terms, I am basically a "5V" vaper, yet I hardly ever feel the need to go beyond 9-9.5W on my Darwins and that is an incredible vape.

    Hmm... yes, there are two batteries in the Darwin, but they're wired in parallel, not series, so they're starting from 3.7 volts, just the same.
     

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    Who is really gonna vape that hot.....I figured my hottest vape and it's under 9 watts. Are there people really going higher than 10?

    I vaped 1.3 ohm on my iAtty at 3.7 10.5 watts
    2 ohm carto on my RSM at 4.8 11.52 watts
    I use my GGTS now with 2 3.2 AW Lifepo4 and 1.5 ohm DC cartos which the jury is still out on what exactly I am vaping but it is warmer then the 2 ohm carto at 4.8
    And I vape 4.7-4.8 on my DC cartoson my RSM same as above.

    Granted this is only personal prefrence and I will probably pick one up if it is reasonably priced to try it either way but I am hoping it will do 12-13 or at least 11 watts.
     
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