Nhaler Announces, The Kick by EVOLV!!!

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ltrainer

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I do understand someone who wants to collect beautiful mods for their own sake. I also appreciate the beauty and craftsmanship involved in doing some of the all mechanical mods that are out there. There are even a few I'd like to own someday.

What I don't understand is the anti-electronics hype that sometimes comes with it.

In the grand scheme of things, you can duplicate an electronics system 20 times on the same multi-layered PCB if you need (military does this all the time...so if one fails another one kicks in and takes over) AND produce 8 life-times of user replaceable supply of that entire board for what it cost just to fire up the lathe or a welder to fashion a comparable mechanical part (which often doesn't last any longer than an equivalent electronic part would either).

Oh heck, forget the PCB, they now have programmable 'chips' that you can totally redesign the entire network in a 'flash', and they're quickly becoming affordable. So this rules out the argument of 'what if they quit making that board someday'. As long as the design exists, someone can 'flash' you a new part on a generic chip.

Why is it no big deal to buy already obsolete battery designs at least once a year at $10 to $20 each, plus a fancy charger....but a tiny 18 cent switch, wheel, chip, or PCB every 10 to 20 years is inconceivable?

My Darwin cost me a little under $240 used. As a smoker, I sometimes spent that much on 'mechanical' lighters in a year's time and thought nothing of it ;)

I have nothing against electronics; they are great. I'll be buying a Kick when they come out. Onthe other hand there are many stories of reos being run over by cars, dropped out of pockets while riding motorcycles and being in ice water for several days and they still work so thats nice too.
 

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I never froze mine under Ice water , but I have 3 RioGrands, 2 Rios,and a Woodville and I would say they are the best bottom feeders on the market at the moment. I have a vast collection of reciepts for the products I have bought, used , kept and or gifted. The Rios are in my arsenal for travel and road trips and I am watching EXTREMELY closely to see what Rob does with the Kick...Im thinking simplicity meets technology will be a win...I will have a Kick in all my Reos if possible and even if I dont , I cant see myself parting company with ANY of them...
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Drew: It's R-E-O. :pervy:

And the Grands and Woodvil can both use a Kick with a 18490 battery and an improvised conductor for the ground. It won't be hard to do at all.

redeyedancer (Rob) received one of the first beta units and had it up and running in one of his anodized Grands in less than 10 minutes. :)
 

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Thanks MF, I was aware that Rob got a beta which is what prompted my comment. As I said , Im excited to see what final solution he comes up with for the Kick. I would rather wait for him to come up with something then take a dremel or soldering iron to any of my units....I am dangerous with both tools...I have done some protoyping with both tools in the past and the results were NOT pretty...lol...
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Electrical zero here -- so please be kind! I read somewhere that the Kick set up for the feeders would mean that there is a continual small drain on the battery. Would that be similar to the minimal drain on the Darwin if one leaves it on? (which really is minimal, IMO)

And, why would it be different on a tube mod? Or -- would it?

Just curious.

I'm also very eager to have a Kicked feeder.
 

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Electrical zero here -- so please be kind! I read somewhere that the Kick set up for the feeders would mean that there is a continual small drain on the battery. Would that be similar to the minimal drain on the Darwin if one leaves it on? (which really is minimal, IMO)

In short, yes.
And, why would it be different on a tube mod? Or -- would it?

Just curious.

I'm also very eager to have a Kicked feeder.

It all depends on where the button is on the tube mod. Top button - it'll drain. Bottom button, it won't. So, Silver Bullet - drain, GGTS/XHaler/Precise - no drain
 

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I just bought a silver bullet for the kick. Any idea how much drain the kick will cause on the battery when it's not in use?

Would loosening the top so it doesn't make contact keep it from draining the battery?

Just a guess, but think of it like this.
A tiny little 35mah battery can keep a wrist watch or computer motherboard going for 3 to 5 years or more, and those tend to drive an LCD or quartz motor full time. I'd think the kick doesn't need much to keep itself alive.

The natural discharge of the AW IMR type of batteries with no load at all is probably faster than what this tiny computer will use to power itself...so it shouldn't be anything to worry about. Install it, set it, and forget it.

If anything, the Kick should improve overall battery life between charges.
 

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I do understand someone who wants to collect beautiful mods for their own sake. I also appreciate the beauty and craftsmanship involved in doing some of the all mechanical mods that are out there. There are even a few I'd like to own someday.

What I don't understand is the anti-electronics hype that sometimes comes with it....

A big part of the allure of mechanical mods is that they are considered by their owners to be more enduring of the ages than their electronic counterparts, and can be repaired by the user if needed with springs, washers, etc. from a home improvement store.

Have you ever observed an older person looking under the hood of a new car, cursing all the electronics, and pining for the days when one could repair a car with a pair of panty hose in an emergency? That's the idea.

The significance accompanying this philosophy is that there could come a time in the future when it will be against the law for anyone to trade in unregulated or unapproved personal vaporizers and components. Durability and user serviceability are important when you don't trust the future availability of replacement parts.*

Credo, what prompted your observation, anyway? I can't imagine there would be any mechanical snob who would be snobbish enough to refuse your Darwin if you offered it to him. Try it and see. Offer it to me. See what happens. :)

* The CASAA website has plenty of material justifying this paranoia.
 
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A big part of the allure of mechanical mods is that they are considered by their owners to be more enduring of the ages than their electronic counterparts, and can be repaired by the user if needed with springs, washers, etc. from a home improvement store.

Have you ever observed an older person looking under the hood of a new car, cursing all the electronics, and pining for the days when one could repair a car with a pair of panty hose in an emergency? That's the idea.

The significance accompanying this philosophy is that there could come a time in the future when it will be against the law for anyone to trade in unregulated or unapproved personal vaporizers and components. Durability and user serviceability are important when you don't trust the future availability of replacement parts.*

Credo, what prompted your observation, anyway? I can't imagine there would be any mechanical snob who would be snobbish enough to refuse your Darwin if you offered it to him. Try it and see. Offer it to me. See what happens. :)

* The CASAA website has plenty of material justifying this paranoia.

Just having fun :)
Some months ago I followed a thread of a popular mechanical mod. A few people expressed interest in a VV version, maybe some touch switch options, and got attacked for daring to defile the purity of it all with electronics.
 

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I'm a fan of both. I will never give my all mech reo. I carry juice, an extra battery, and an extra atty. Imma buy a kick and the batteries to go with it and I plan on luvin' the regulated performance, however, you bette believe that the extra battery I'll carry will be an 18650. I can repair my reo with tools I have at hand...the kick will offer better preformance, but I can't repair it.
 
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