Nicotine addiction to manipulate taste.

[Thurlow999]

After reading many publications on Nicotine addiction several points have recently become clear to me, many years ago after trying my very first ciggarette i remember thinking that the taste was so bad it would be a near imposible for me too ever become addicted to somthing so foul.. no way would i ever overlook the rank smell on my fingers and no way would i ever get used to the harsh burning feeling on inhailing hot burnt tobaco, however those are the mistakes all new smokers make ("Alan carr "the easy way") this reverse lure is the trap.. all things in nature Sex, Sugar, saturated fat have a big reward factor, Smoking at first does not... We become addicted to nicotine because we believe we never will.

I recently went away for two days and grabbed the wrong sample bottle to take with me, i took coffee.. it was a free sample and ordinarily i never would have bought it as i had always hated coffee, whilst away im faced with a choice vape coffee or vape nothing, as with any smoker facing a "no cig vs brand he doesnt like" choice he will always opt for the latter, i spent two days vaping coffee, my need for nicotine was quenched and an immiediate assoisiation developed between coffee taste and nicotine satisfaction, on my return home i start to drink and enjoy coffee.

This post is really just to emphasise the power of nicotine addiction, in two days it changed a dis-liked drink into a much loved drink.

if only they made "going to the gym" flavour ejuice.


spelling/grammar/puctuation... sorry

 

[elfstone]

We become addicted to nicotine because we believe we never will.

Very well said!

Just curious, how long have you been vaping for? I find I can't vape a liquid that is not to my liking, and I know because my DIY attempts are foul more often than not

I still believe that I have a nicotine habit, maybe even nicotine dependence stricto sensu, but I feel my addiction is much different, less... atrocious as it was when I smoked cigarettes. Overall I feel more free - I never panic if I don't have a vape available, whereas not having a cigarette would be a great stressor before. I can vape for hours on end, but I also can spend a full day at work without even one puff and no craving or anxiety. With cigarettes such pattern was impossible. However, I know some smokers who smoke like that (i.e. they can go an indefinite time without a smoke and have no craving) - and I always thought they were not as addicted as I was.

 

[alicewonderland]

like elfstone I haven't experienced much of vaping a liquid that is not to my liking. I dont know what it is, but I think there is much more to cigarette addiction than the nicotine. I vape 24mg regularly and sometimes break out the 36mg for that relaxed feeling cigarettes use to give me. I was a 2pack a day smoker for my last year of smoking so I was highly addicted you can say, but as a vaper now I don't think I am as addicted to nicotine anymore, I can vape or I can't vape but I don't ever feel that -need- to vape as I did with smoking.

 

[elfstone]

Yes. That is true. In the beginning I had to quench cravings with the higher nicotine juice as well. I started with 18 mg and used 24 mg as my "rescue vape".

Now I've been vaping exclusively DIY for more than a month and dropping the nicotine as low as 10 mg sometimes without a hitch. But my usual vape is still ~16 mg.

 

[sailorman]

Are you sure it was the nicotine that gave you the taste for coffee? I have some juice that I think is terrible and I really should just dump. If things got desperate, I'd end up vaping it but I can't imagine I'd acquire a taste for it.

Even during my most heavy smoking days, I never really could overlook the smell of nicotine (tar actually) on my fingers or of a dirty ashtray, so I tend to question the hypothesis put forth by Thurlow. I did have more tolerance for those rank smells, but that could just as well be a matter of acclimation and a crippled sense of smell. It would be interesting to repeat that ad hoc experiment but instead of coffee, try it with some flavor that is truly and universally disgusting. Maybe repeat the experiment to see if nicotine can induce a fondness for the taste of sour milk. Any volunteers?

Coffee is largely an acquired taste. I hated it until I was in my 20's and found my self in a position for several days when circumstances basically forced me to drink it. I've been a coffee fiend ever since. Maybe I developed an addiction to caffeine? I think it's more likely I just acquired a taste for it that I didn't have before. My guess is that's what happened to Thurlow.

 

[Maestro]

A couple of weeks ago, I got a tobacco sample pack to get a break from the fruit flavors and I thought it was the most god-awful thing I ever vaped. Every one of them. I even had nightmares about it. Of course, I'm too cheap to throw it away so I kept at it. Now, I've developed a taste for it, so I even enjoy it. I wouldn't vape it all the time, but it's an enjoyable change from the fruit flavors. So yeah, I agree you can learn to enjoy flavors sometimes, even if you don't at first.

 

[Wickedwench]

My own experience has been that what I may enjoy eating or drinking in real life bears no resemblance to what I enjoy vaping.
As an example, I would run away from Earl Grey tea, but the Earl Grey vape from ... is really good! I use it like a pallet cleaner after a strong or sweet vape.
Lemon Blueberry Cotton Candy from Mad Vapes tastes just like I remember Booberry cereal as a kid and I love it, but can't stand the cereal now.
The strangest has been Snickerdoodle Cookies from Ms. T. It tastes just like the cookie, but after vaping an hour, I never wanted to have another Snickerdoodle cookie as long as I live!
Maybe the format comes into the brain differently!

 

[alicewonderland]

one of the above posts reminded me of my nasty ashtrays with the spackled on black tar on the bottoms/sides. :shudders: oh god I dont want to smell or see that ever again.

 

[Thurlow999]

Two years elf...

sailor, an interesting post, it my opinion that vapers underestimate thier nic addiction greatly, it would be very interesting if all flavours disapeared and all that was left was one flavour... the flavour you have tried and hated, for me it would be redbull (tasted of nasty chemicals) if this one upleasant flavour was all that was available to me i am convinced that after 2 weeks not only would i like it but i would actually crave it.

 

[rdwg]

The complexity of the science and art of tatse/smell and the relation to the brain can blow your mind! There are so many factors that I don't think you can nail it down to just the nicotine.Many things that taste bad at first can grow on you