Nicotine: Yay or Nay?

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readeuler

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I see what's happening here - we're all using reverse psychology to encourage the OP to do whatever they please, because they're an adult and not harming anyone else, right?

OP, your device choices are getting better :) I'd still emphasize that a better "topper" means a better time vaping. I've heard many great things about the nautilus, and it would be my recommendation. The istick is a sweet little device that should work well with a nautilus, and I would suggest you consider that combo.

And not order anything with batteries from fasttech for your first order.
 

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I definitely don't see why someone that isn't nicotine dependent would start vaping with nic. That really makes no sense at all.

Well I've already decided on zero nic, but thought I had to reply to this.

Starting nicotine with vaping is still 1000 times smarter than starting it with cigs.

Now I'm just really hoping that vaping zero nic is actually worthwhile. Maybe it is like chewing gum? As in, it's completely pointless but people do it because it's tasty. That's my hope at least. My fear is that it will be like breathing in flavored air, in which case it would seem rather underwhelming.

At any rate it's something that I have to do. It's been nagging at me since 2012.

Also I've basically decided I'm gonna build one. With a vivi nova tank, eGo C twist 1000mAh battery, a tank cone, and a metal drip tip. I appreciate all of your suggestions but I can't relate to any of the designs you've all shared. I'm looking for expression.

Oh I should also mention I'm using the money I'll save from avoiding nic at the liquor store. Alcohol is such a safer way to have fun.
 
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Whitewolf2014

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If you are not currently craving nicotine why on earth would you use it? Did I just read that nicotine is not addictive? That's a bunch of hooey! If it weren't there wouldn't be nicotine replacement therapies, injections, medications, seminars, hypnotism, or the abysmal backsliding people who smoke experience too often. Yes nicotine is addictive! I submit it is more addictive than a lot of more commonly-known-to-be-addictive drugs. I've got firsthand experience there. Go for zero nic by all means. Believe me, you wouldn't be missing out on a thing!

Why is there nicotine replacement therapies? With cigarettes you have not just nicotine but all sorts of other ingredients making up the soup of chemicals you inhale with smoking.
Chemical Dependency and Nicotine
I suggest doing some actual research and take note when you find studies if they are studies on nicotine alone or if they are talking about cigarettes which contain nicotine and if they use the word cigarette and nicotine interchangeably. Remember we aren't getting all the other ingredients from vaping as we once did from cigarettes.

I submit it is only addictive when first used in tobacco form. I've got first hand experience there. I've realized that it was the chemical makeup of cigarettes and how all those synergens helped to cause my dependence. That's why vaping works for so many people because you can still get your nicotine using the same hand to mouth motions as you used with smoking cigarettes. Others have found out they still need WTA's to get rid of the cigarette withdraws.
I also don't know why a non-smoker would want to start using nicotine unless they were trying to gain some of the possible good things from nicotine.

Nicotine Clinical Trials: Why Aren't There Any?
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FDA announces nicotine not addictive or harmful.
In April 2013 the FDA announced they no longer considered nicotine to be dependence-creating, liable to abuse, or dangerous if over-consumed.

In their Consumer Updates, they proposed removing several of the warning labels from NRTs. They have now conceded that several decades of evidence from nicotine-containing meds sales demonstrates that nicotine has no measurable potential for addiction and presents no danger of harm through overdose.

Nicotine Replacement Therapy Labels May Change
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/UCM346012.pdf

It is probably reasonable to conclude that the FDA would not be taking this step unless there were a significant economic benefit for their funders. However, since no one can demonstrate any harm from nicotine, and since it is not dependence-creating except within tobacco, there are no reasons why the FDA should not take this step. It is about ten years behind the curve but that is normal within medical practice (in fact it may be regarded as radically new, with such a short timelag behind the evidence).

It won't be popular with the ideologists, but the science does not support their view in any case. Don't expect the CDC or WHO to like it; but reality does not suit crackpot ideologists too well.
 

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Whitewolf. I appreciate the time you put into your post. However, I am completely unconvinced and really not concerned with what researches have to say about nicotine being addictive or otherwise. I say that respectfully. The reason I will dismiss these kinds of reports entirely is from personal experience. So whether my dependence on nicotine had its impetus as a result of the various and sundry other chemicals found in cigarettes or if it is simply an addictive drug on it's own merits matters not. Factually speaking it is not something which has any inherent benefits to the non-user, and for that reason alone it should be avoided. It is, however, a known vasoconstrictor so people with a history of heart and or vascular issues in their family should probably just avoid it where possible. As for the OP, I can see absolutely no good reason to intake nicotine when the non-nicotine user should find nic-free vaping just as enjoyable. Again, my opinions only here. I just know if I could fly back in time nearly 40 years and start vaping before smoking, it would be zero nic without a doubt.
 
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