This was awhile ago and it was PG nic--- maybe two years ago. It was pink and it scared me so I made my husband vape it.
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This was awhile ago and it was PG nic--- maybe two years ago. It was pink and it scared me so I made my husband vape it.
Would VapersTek Premium be a good choice for long term freezer storage? I have a few liters of MFS but also wanted to have a few from a different vendor, I am just not very familiar with any other as far as quality.
Thanks for sharing that video.
I watched from 1:12:30 and what a great resource for noob and not so noob DIYers alike.
I learned almost if not all that info over the past 3 years. Mostly at ECF and mostly from @Kurt
What an invaluable resource & all around hot .... for sharing his knowledge & experience here
Ohh, sorry thenThis was awhile ago and it was PG nic--- maybe two years ago. It was pink and it scared me so I made my husband vape it.
I have myself had pinkish VG nic several times; have read reports of VG nic some 20 times(guessing here of course) and seen pics on vendor sites of PG and VG nic, and if colored and one is pink, then always the VG(maybe 5 times seen that). I have read a report about someone also stating pink PG nic, but honestly, I thought he was writing PG when he meant VG, but after also your testimony now, then I stand corrected... Still, the pink-nic "ratio", is imho still majorily on the VGs side...Mowgli, I couldn't agree more
About the video, then yes it's great! I didn't actualy see it for some time because the title said DIY safety, and frankly, not very interesting to me(as I already know to handle DIY safely), but it touched many other things and also just putting a picture and a voice on a person is really nice @All, Kurt is in the video also before 1:12:30, as that was just the time for the pink-nic issue... Watch it all, and just jump alittle at times...
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One of the nics in the "blind test" last summer definitely had a pinkish hue, and they were all PG.
Thanks Rossum
On another note, I really wanna try CNT nic, as they are the biggest supplier of pharma-nic in the world I believe and said to be great. I only know one vendor in EU carrying it; piratesvape, and the owner states it's better than his previously alchem nic. They dont deliver out of UK, so I mailed Nerudia in UK(distributor) about if they could please provide me with one or more other EU vendors carrying there CNT nic and apologized for pestering them with 'non-buisness' issues, and I got a reply stating they where sorry but the only possible vendor is piratesvape, which I take as there's no other EU vendors yet(they are more expensive than e.g. alchem). Damn...
On another note, I really wanna try CNT nic, as they are the biggest supplier of pharma-nic in the world I believe and said to be great. I only know one vendor in EU carrying it; piratesvape, and the owner states it's better than his previously alchem nic. They dont deliver out of UK, so I mailed Nerudia in UK(distributor) about if they could please provide me with one or more other EU vendors carrying there CNT nic and apologized for pestering them with 'non-buisness' issues, and I got a reply stating they where sorry but the only possible vendor is piratesvape, which I take as there's no other EU vendors yet(they are more expensive than e.g. alchem). Damn...
Clean nics with best reputation here is Nude-nic, VT(or other chemnovatic vendor) and carolina-extracts. Also nicselect from Nicotine-river/iquidbarn(amongst many others) have a good rep. Vape-clarity also has a pretty good rep. I'm talking most popular clean nics here...
From latest blind-test here, nicely initiated by Rossum, then nude-nic beat VT for best clean nic. However, nude-nic owner states he uses 6 different sources all over the world, so variations could occure imho, but even with vendors sticking to one supplier, the same can easilly happen too. To be fair, jake states they only order from suppliers showing great COAs and which sends samples to him, and also test every new batch they get and not only relies on the COA from the supplier and i'm sure they have a strict spec rule with regards to high nic-purity and very low "other-alkaloid-impurities". Mostly people praise them, and rarely there are reports of e.g. peppery nic, but very rare. There where issues before with some claiming higher-purity-than-ordered, but not recently I believe...
Also if trusting Jimi, then VT, or rather chemnovatic, has two different suppliers and then cleans there nic aferwards.
From latest blind-test here, nicely initiated by Rossum, then nude-nic beat VT for best clean nic. However, nude-nic owner states he uses 6 different sources all over the world, so variations could occure imho, but even with vendors sticking to one supplier, the same can easilly happen too. To be fair, jake states they only order from suppliers showing great COAs and which sends samples to him, and also test every new batch they get and not only relies on the COA from the supplier and i'm sure they have a strict spec rule with regards to high nic-purity and very low "other-alkaloid-impurities". Mostly people praise them, and rarely there are reports of e.g. peppery nic, but very rare. There where issues before with some claiming higher-purity-than-ordered, but not recently I believe...
Also if trusting Jimi, then VT, or rather chemnovatic, has two different suppliers and then cleans there nic aferwards.
Also take into consideration ... some of the testers were throat hit fans who judge the quality of nic by how strong it hits the throat.
Thanks! I just ordered 1 liter VT 100mg/ml VG base and have the 50ml glass bottles with eurodripper caps from specialty bottles I really like the fact once sealed with the dropper insert you can not spill it when using it.
I really like the fact once sealed with the dropper insert you can not spill it when using it.
Honestly I find MFS to be a bit on the harsh throat hit side, which is why I wanted to find a better quality less-taste/clean nic, my sample of NN gave me kinda an off taste (?) I was not very enamored with it in my unflavored eliquid, those were the only two I have ever tried though.
The Liter of MFS I have, got shelved and may only be used if it ends up being the last Liter on earth.
The harshness makes it unvapeable for my liking.
VT Premium ticks all the check boxes for me ... I gave up throat hits when I quit smoking.
Indeed, but my statement was about interpreting the results for best clean nic and disregarding other factors like TH etc. I cannot buy nude-nic unfortunetly(tried many times to make them send unmarked bottles or just labeled VG/PG, but nothing! Damn...). NN isn't known for high TH I believe... Most clean nics aren't I believe...
I use that as an excuse to buy new gear!This is very true.
Buy yourself a scale that'll measure down to .01 grams ($16), find a good mixing calculator online (one that allows for grams), do a bit of research on some DIY recipe sites, purchase flavors, nicotine, base liquids (PG/VG) and mix away.
I've been doing it for a couple of years now; easy peasy.
Let's say I vaped 30ml a week.
If I were buying ready made e-liquid, I would calculate a cost of roughly $18 to $20 weekly; $1000 yearly.
My most elaborate DIY e-liquid recipe (8 flavors) costs me $2 week; $104 yearly.
It pays to have a hobby.
I'm taking it that the VT nic is shipped in plastic bottles, right?
Right now I'm thinking about a long term storage supply (3 or more years). I'm wondering how much air will get in there when transferring it and whether that will promote oxidation over the course of a few years. I've never had a problem with my current stock which lasts about a year, I've transferred those to 250ml amber bottles and they've all stayed very clean.
I'm thinking Carolina Xtracts maybe, or another brand that ships in glass containers you can just pop directly into the freezer. Just not sure, but the VT price is very nice.
The VT Premium I'm mixing with right now is 2 years old ... it was rebottled in glass with polycone caps ... still vapes as smooth as silk.
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I think I may try them for my next order, I'm down to about 300ml left in the freezer. I'll need more 250ml bottles too. I'm glad we at least have some time to start early. I would hate to have to fork out $1000 for lifetime supplies all at once.
The air that is added I don't believe is very much, as VG don't absorb that much air in a short time and then if filling near top and using good gasket caps like polycone or euro-droppers you'll be fine...
Buying nic already in glass is super convenient, but personally I would only do it if the price wasen't that much more than plastic, as it's quick to do yourself and have complete control over sizes and caps and headroom etc.
Think Kurt, which always rebottles into own glass and caps and have no change to show in 6.75 years Some of his nic even contained up to 12% water and still holds fine...
He states in that video I linked before that every plastic type will leach O2 over time and even some leach plastic particles additionaly... After I had a plastic bottle of 100ml strawberry inawera flavor which gotten a plastic taste after about a year, then i'm "affraid" of plastic and for sure for my personal nic-stash that needs holding up for many years from now...
Buying nic already in glass is super convenient, but personally I would only do it if the price wasen't that much more than plastic, as it's quick to do yourself and have complete control over sizes and caps and headroom etc.
Think Kurt, which always rebottles into own glass and caps and have no change to show in 6.75 years
Some of his nic even contained up to 12% water and still holds fine...He states in that video I linked before that every plastic type will leach O2 over time and even some leach plastic particles additionaly... After I had a plastic bottle of 100ml strawberry inawera flavor which gotten a plastic taste after about a year, then i'm "affraid" of plastic and for sure for my personal nic-stash that needs holding up for many years from now...
You can store nic in your freezer in dark amber glass bottles for alot longer than a year. I have PG nic that is up to 4 years old now and its still perfect. I just finally want to get more due to the pending vape apocalypse. The reason I have such a big supply is we had this FDA threat looming over us for years now with several previous "scares" if you will. Well it appears its finally here.
I used to just save my dark amber vitamin bottles and remove the labels and voila. In recent years they no longer use the dark amber glass bottles for vitamins-- its a lighter amber so I need a few more bottles. That's easy enough to find.
Choosing the right nic for me after all this time is another matter entirely so I feel like a newbie in that regard.
Will continue to watch this thread and a shoutout to Cyrus Vap--- miss you buddy.
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