thanks! just emailed myself the code - with temps in the 90s here i've decided to wait a bit before i order
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thanks! just emailed myself the code - with temps in the 90s here i've decided to wait a bit before i order
thanks! just emailed myself the code - with temps in the 90s here i've decided to wait a bit before i order
Keep an eye on their pricing. The $49 liter sale is recent. It's usually $80-90 if I remember correctly. I haven't ordered from them in years but I'm always checking out prices. VT and Nude have never had a sale that I recall. And for good reason. You gotta pay to play for that stuff.
NN had a good Black Friday sale the past two years, I started stocking up then. Not sure we'll be that lucky come this fall. I'm tempted by the rts price, but while I'm not a super taster, I do get the peppery off flavor from WL. I worry about undertones in other nics. I think I may pay the piper for another liter of NN just so I know I have what works for me.
Smart. I'm the same way right now. Stick with what you know you like. I'm going to mix nn and RTS unflavored tomorrow and test them in fresh built rda's. I was honestly surprised with RTS when I smelled the bottle. I was expecting more of an odor than what I got. And having my wife confirm was a big deal. My sense of smell kinda sucks. Hers is canine quality. She's quite the cook because of it.
What was the price of nude during the sales?
Bit of advice requested. Never DIY'd before, but the thought of not being able to vape because i run out of juice terrifies me. I wanna at least buy some nic and get my feet wet. Seems RTS is well liked so I'll buy from them. Since I've never done it before, is 100mg too strong to start experimenting with? Should I buy some 60 or lower maybe? I just don't understand why people would go with a lower nic if it's going to be diluted/mixed down anyways...unless missing something. Like I said, complete newb to DIY.
The first liter I bought was 60mg to be safe.
I regretted not getting 100mg by the time I finished it.
Be focused on what you're doing when handling it.
If you're clumsy or have kids/cats running around distracting you then by all means get 60.
100mg nic takes way less space than 48mg or 60mg for long term storage or limited space.
I regretted not getting 100mg by the time I finished it.
Be focused on what you're doing when handling it.
If you're clumsy or have kids/cats running around distracting you then by all means get 60.
100mg nic takes way less space than 48mg or 60mg for long term storage or limited space.
adding just flavoring won't mix it down to a vapeable juice so be prepared to have pg or vg on hand
but 100mg seems to be to most economical concentration for diy.some people might be more comfortable though working with the lower concentrations and prefer to only have to add flavorings and be done with it.
I checked my NN orders - the first in 2013 was 50%, in 2015 it was 40% discount. I think 2014 was 40% too but I must have misfiled the email.
I get a liter of 100mg strength, then split it into multiple smaller bottles for storage. For convenience I store in 120ml bottles - 1 bottle lasts me a long time.
When it is time to take a new bottle out, I give it time to adjust to room temperature, then immediately cut it down to my working strength (60 mg is my own working strength).
A 120ml bottle of 100mg + 80 ml of plain pg or vg gets me 200ml of 60mg NIC base.
When it is time to take a new bottle out, I give it time to adjust to room temperature, then immediately cut it down to my working strength (60 mg is my own working strength).
A 120ml bottle of 100mg + 80 ml of plain pg or vg gets me 200ml of 60mg NIC base.
Thanks! Yeah i do have cats around. I plan on mixing in the basement, no cats there, but they can sneak up on ya. Oh, that makes sense about the storage space.
adding just flavoring won't mix it down to a vapeable juice so be prepared to have pg or vg on hand
some people might be more comfortable though working with the lower concentrations and prefer to only have to add flavorings and be done with it.
Yes, i will order pg and vg to mix with. I figured I'd just go with a straight one fruit flavor to get my feet wet at first. I guess i would feel more comfortable with the lower nic at first. I can see where some people would only want to add flavorings though.
Thanks to you both for explaining that! I think I'll try the 60 first, play with it for a week or 2 and then move up if I feel comfortable with it and start stocking up.
Wow, that's pretty good. My first nic purchase in 2013 was a liter of rts and a liter of MFS. I was a diy noob and just wanted to get my feet wet and protect myself from regs. Once I was in the swing I bought 2 liters of WL in late 2014 because of the regs. I've had no reason to add to the stash until the regs were released so all I've done is track prices and threads like this. I still have 1.5L of WL and a half liter of RTS left in the deep freeze.
Stocking for 4 people can get really expensive now that we're facing regs in action. I'm going to get 2 liters of nude armor at some point once I know for sure that nic base is in jeopardy. I have no idea when that will be if ever... This whole thing sucks but at least I'm being proactive.
It is super important that you understand how to dilute and safely handle nicotine before you begin. 36mg gives you a nice cushion for error, yet still be relatively safe while you get started mixing. Most still need to dilute further. Still dangerous to kids and pets at this strength!
Most use 100mg as it is economical and the math is easier. And where to buy depends on nic level and what you like to vape. Those questions need to be answered before you decide who to buy from.
Very good point. I will have to use a calculator to figure out how much of everything to use. That got me thinking though, if I'm gonna start small, i should go smaller yet and get more comfortable with the process. Then i would hopefully be more comfortable jumping up. I really like your idea of 36mg at first.
If you're on PC - eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator
My friend on a Mac uses this - http://..................../create
D'OH! He uses the top result from here - ejuice calculator - Google Search
Here's the calculator I use. I switched to it from eJuice Me up a few years ago and I'm still not using all the features. HotRod keeps adding more based on requests and support is great.
New Calculator to try
New Calculator to try
Yep, that's the ejuice calculator to use.
The problem with all the web calculators is, what happens when the site no longer exists?
If I have a calculator myself, it will always be there for me.
I seriously doubt that the calculators will no longer exist but in any event I own mine, purchased from android app store: Liquix.
Nothing wrong with doing it long hand but the calculators are fast and probably less likely to do a math error. Or at least, with fewer things to enter, you have less chance of an input error.
Nothing wrong with doing it long hand but the calculators are fast and probably less likely to do a math error. Or at least, with fewer things to enter, you have less chance of an input error.
Yeah, PDO, while it works very well and does not dry me out like PG, I don't like the taste. I don't know about finding another e-liquid carrier. The problem is these compounds (PG, VG, PDO) are well known to be relatively benign with inhalation, and there would need to be serious and expensive studies on any other compound. Animal test at least and probably human tests. I think these are the compounds we are stuck with for a while, anyway. But I am always surprised at where this field goes, so perhaps another alternative is possible down the road.
This. Realize that DIY will be messy in the beginning. You will most likely get DIY nic on you. Get a sample of 36-48 mg/mL nic to try out. It will probably be 120 mL which is still a fair amount, and enough to figure out what you will need. I use syringes for everything and glass bottles with euro dropper inserts for my nic. I don't like open bottles of high-nic liquid sitting there waiting to get knocked over accidentally. Nitrile gloves may not be completely necessary, but its a good habit to get into while you get some DIY skills. Then when you have worked out everything and have some skills, go to 100 mg/mL. Be sure to have lots of paper towels. Wash nic off your bare skin promptly if you get it on you (likely).
For calculations, I use Scubabatdan's ejuice_calculator spreadsheet. Always have, for years. Not tried any others, but there may be better ones out there. I like a spreadsheet since I can do other types of calculations in it, like cost per bottle I make and other things I want to figure out.
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