100ml of 7.5% contains 7.5g of nic, so you want to add 3.7g of benzoic. Heat to 55c until dissolved, good shake and leave it for 20mins or so to protonate. Test pH and adjust as needed.
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In my mixing and testing, ive found that freebase is still the best option for rapid absorption.
Problem is, very few can vape high mg freebase comfortably, so next best thing is to get the pH in an vapable range while keeping as much of the nic unprotonated as possible. For me its working out at a pH of 7, which contains around 22% freebase and the rest mono-protonated.
As we know from PAX's work, its useful to have mono-p salts for vaping because it deprotonates at a lower temperature, ie ~200c, delivering unprotonated nic in a pH adjusted gaseous phase thats palatable to the user. At least, thats my understanding of whats going on.
Problem is, very few can vape high mg freebase comfortably, so next best thing is to get the pH in an vapable range while keeping as much of the nic unprotonated as possible. For me its working out at a pH of 7, which contains around 22% freebase and the rest mono-protonated.
As we know from PAX's work, its useful to have mono-p salts for vaping because it deprotonates at a lower temperature, ie ~200c, delivering unprotonated nic in a pH adjusted gaseous phase thats palatable to the user. At least, thats my understanding of whats going on.
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I would like to bump this thread with a request, please.
Would everyone please weigh in with your current recommendations for nicotine vendors? Admins still point us newbies to this thread, and it is hopelessly out of date as far as vendor info, and long on chemistry of salts, of late.
I would like to find out current best sourcing for clean, flavorless(insofar as that is possible) nicotine, at the best price. Just a quick note from a bunch of people would be invaluable to those getting started.
For the record, I did try to read as much of this one as I could, for background, but it does kinda go out on tangents, sometimes.
Thank you for your help, in advance.
Would everyone please weigh in with your current recommendations for nicotine vendors? Admins still point us newbies to this thread, and it is hopelessly out of date as far as vendor info, and long on chemistry of salts, of late.
I would like to find out current best sourcing for clean, flavorless(insofar as that is possible) nicotine, at the best price. Just a quick note from a bunch of people would be invaluable to those getting started.
For the record, I did try to read as much of this one as I could, for background, but it does kinda go out on tangents, sometimes.
Thank you for your help, in advance.
I get mine from nicotine river. Ive been really happy with there nic.
I just got a liter of Heartland vapes 100 mg ultra premium nicotine. It is their most expensive at $82 shipped. I only vape unflavored now at quite high nicotine levels ( between 20 mg and 32 mg). I got to say i love it,very clean and no peppery after taste at all. It does have a slight flavor especially at the higher nicotine levels. I would describe it as like a dry white wine,maybe Sauvignon blanc with a hint of brazil nut. Very subtle and absolutely delicious!
Next i am going to try Vaperstek that has just dropped its price to compare.
Ultra Premium Nicotine - 100mg Liter
1 Liter EU Sourced Nicotine (100 mg USP/EP)
Next i am going to try Vaperstek that has just dropped its price to compare.
Ultra Premium Nicotine - 100mg Liter
1 Liter EU Sourced Nicotine (100 mg USP/EP)
Yes it is my favorite nicotine so far. Interested to try the Vaperstek because they are both meant to be the same nicotine, Chemnovatic from Europe. The Vaperstek is a couple of bucks cheaper but you have to pay for shipping on top. Some say the Vaperstek is better,how i do not know. Just interested in a side by side comparision.
I'm thinking tastebuds get dulled. I no longer taste that nuttiness after awhile. I'm thinking about buying several Different 60ml premixed and rotating...
Yeah, I would never ask someone to read this whole thread, lol. I believe that the suppliers mentioned here and a few mentioned around the general forum are all quality suppliers. If asked, I always recommend getting samples from a few because it really comes down to personal preference quite often.I would like to bump this thread with a request, please.
Would everyone please weigh in with your current recommendations for nicotine vendors? Admins still point us newbies to this thread, and it is hopelessly out of date as far as vendor info, and long on chemistry of salts, of late.
I would like to find out current best sourcing for clean, flavorless(insofar as that is possible) nicotine, at the best price. Just a quick note from a bunch of people would be invaluable to those getting started.
For the record, I did try to read as much of this one as I could, for background, but it does kinda go out on tangents, sometimes.
Thank you for your help, in advance.
I have only been vaping the Heartlands for a week and then only at night. I rotate between that at night and some RTS vapes or some MFS i have during the day. I normally vape 20 mg unflavored in my day tank and between 26 mg and 32 mg unflavored in my Night time tank. I especially love the Heartlands with a glass or two of red wine at night.
I asked specifically for recommendations for the most flavorless nicotine, as not to interfere with the flavor choices I want to make for my juice.
Thanks again...
Thanks again...
I asked specifically for recommendations for the most flavorless nicotine, as not to interfere with the flavor choices I want to make for my juice.
Thanks again...
I recommend Nude Nicotine. Not cheap, I like their “smooth salt” nic. They will send samples too. Good luck.
Heartland Vapes (basic/lowest priced) 100mg/mL nic is my current go-to. I am not a "connoisseur" of "fine" nicotines; I just want something that is smooth (not harsh), and doesn't interfere with my DIY flavors. I doubt I am the best judge of what is flavorless, as I have abused my poor old taste buds for decades, and continue to do so to this day. But, for me, I find Heartland's entry price point nic to be everything I need from a nic... so I have had no need (or desire) to try their more expensive offerings. And, at $45 a liter, along with very reasonable shipping rates (within the U.S.); they are a no-brainer for me.
As a business; I have found them to be fast, courteous, trustworthy, and reliable. I am very comfortable recommending them to others.
(NOTE: Heartland does offer smaller 120mL sizes to try before committing to a full liter. I am not sure why they list these under their DIY tab, and not under their Nic tab, where all their other nic is listed.)
Thanks, IDJoel. My initial supply was ECX. About that same price. No complaints yet.
Yeah, I don't consider nicotine to be like a fine wine either, more like a rather messy version of a stimulant to treat my ADHD. As long as it doesn't kill my throat I'm fine. I was buying nic salts from Nicotine River (I really like them) but my last few liters are/will be Heartland's base nicotine. I figure if my throat still complains by then, I can go ahead and convert them to nic salts myself, if necessary.
By then, I'll be 10-15 years older, and likely not so picky about stuff. I hope. (Mainly I hope I have less energy to be picky) It looked fine (Heartland's base nic) tasted fine, and tasted like nic should, so that was good enough for me. I will probably not wait for another big sale, although I didn't get it over Easter like I thought I would (no big nic sales, but lots of flavoring sales.) My plan is to do it soon before announcements get made and prices go up and etc. ect.
Anna
By then, I'll be 10-15 years older, and likely not so picky about stuff. I hope. (Mainly I hope I have less energy to be picky) It looked fine (Heartland's base nic) tasted fine, and tasted like nic should, so that was good enough for me. I will probably not wait for another big sale, although I didn't get it over Easter like I thought I would (no big nic sales, but lots of flavoring sales.) My plan is to do it soon before announcements get made and prices go up and etc. ect.
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