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    I must be extra dumb lol how can I get the site translated - I hit the british flag but the money still makes no sense to me - also can I use a Mastercard debit there??!!:blink: BTW I do use Google and it did not do that thing about translate lol

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    Jimi D.

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    I must be extra dumb lol how can I get the site translated - I hit the british flag but the money still makes no sense to me - also can I use a Mastercard debit there??!!:blink: BTW I do use Google and it did not do that thing about translate lol
    Google Inawera.com. At the search results you should see "translate this page" on the right of Inawera .com

    1 Polish Zloty equals
    0.30 US Dollar

    They probably would honor MC Debit.
     

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    That was my thought as well. Believe me, I've spent days and days rewicking and rebuilding. The greatest advance I made was the realization that airflow had a great deal to do with the taste. Getting the coil as close as possible ( without being too close) to the airhole helps greatly. But still the badness appears. Only after running no nic juice on a build that was giving some badness, and finding that the no nic juice tasted great and continued to taste great did I realize it has to be the nic. Or at least the nic has something to do with it.

    There have also been plenty of times I've opened up my attys after getting a bad taste, to find fully saturated wicks. Upon taking out the cotton there is not even the slightest discoloration. As an experiment I recently vaped my unflavored no nic juice down to a dry wick and I did not pick up the bad taste I get with the nic juice. All this leads me to believe this is not a wicking or coil issue.

    Another interesting bit. The taste seems to be better if I have some coffee. Are my tastebuds all messed up or is the coffee masking something that is bad? I don't know. The coffee does not absolutely solve the issue, just makes it a bit better.

    I was hoping someone here could relate, but perhaps I am just crazy after all.

    You sound like you're just on a normal learning curve ( if you just started vaping). If you're still smoking some that'll affect things, if you've just started vaping after years of smoking- tastebuds will need to heal, and your nose.

    Yeah, drinking anything helps the vaping process.
     

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    Pictures can be deceiving, but my intent is not too - forgive the lack of computer and camera skills.

    I started this experiment on 4-28-2013 with 3 - 2ml samples of 100mg/ml of nicotine (all in PG) taken from the freezer and put in clear glass vials and stored in the basement shop. But, and I'll explain later, I will start with a picture of the same nic taken from the freezer on Sunday 7-13-2014. All 3 samples (also put in 8ml clear glass vials) remain clear and I detect no difference in odor - if I were to vape them, as previously done, my guess would be still "air".

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    WIZARD LABS, reg.- bought 11-20-2012

    RTSVAPES, bought 12-25-2012

    RTSVAPES, X-LOT,- bought 4-19-2013


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    OK, the RTS ( middle picture, 12-25-12) was the first to oxidize enough to see and that happened about 45 days ago (about the end of Oct). It was first just like last time, but unfortunately, I dropped the vial :mad:

    The other 2 (still intact :) don't have enough tint that I believe can be seen in a picture but I can see the RTS-X is starting too tint - just like the experiment originally started in 2013.

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    The middle vial now has a 2ml sample of my latest nic (MFS, 100mg/ml in pg).

    I managed to resist the temptation of the price drops all this time, but when MFS went to $40 a liter - :facepalm:

    I drained an Evod last night vaping the MFS unflavored and I do notice something "pepper'? It did arrive clear and no odor that's odd to me.

    Though I much prefer vaping with flavor, with this MFS having something more than "air", I may just compare the 3 nics that I have - but am more excited to compare the nic that has been aging since April of 2013. Many of the juices I have were made a year or more ago and quite a few have been extraordinarily good - with nic in.
     

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    Newbie here. From what I can figure out from this thread and others, is that I can't go too wrong with VT Nic.
    I am just trying out the DIY process and ordered some of it. Hope it works well.
    I don't smoke. I'm just trying to reduce the costs for my elderly mother vaping.

    Nope, you can't. And good on you for doing that.
     

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    A funny thing happened on the way to 12mg/ml...

    I was a heavy smoker. I consumed about 2 1/4 PAD of strong 'pipe tobacco' stuff-your-own cigarettes. Evidence suggests that the equivalent in traditional cigarettes would have been about 3 PAD of Marlboro 100's.

    Based on heavy consumption, I chose 36ml/mg ejuice to start my vaping experience. I credit that level for an unequivocal and instant stopping of smoking on a dime. For economy, it wasn't long before I took up DIY for eliquids. There were some effects I found undesirable at that level. The main one was dry skin on my face, forehead and ears. Drinking high quantities of water didn't and still does not appeal much to me per circumstances that come aling with aging (66). I do take in a reasonable amount of liquid. The dry skin, along with perhaps a little light-headedness caused me to think that cutting my nicotine level seemed to be in order. I don't recall how long I lingered at 30mg/ml, but it wasn't too long before I settled in at 24mg/ml. I stayed there for two years or so.

    At some point, I began to notice significant light-headedness and it seemed to be related to the level of nicotine consumption. I decided to cut to 18mg/ml. That alleviated the problem...for a while. I suppose I spent the better part of a year at 18mg/ml. Supplies of nicotine base may have changed in that period.

    Not long ago, the light-headedness began to return and it seemed substantial. "Oh well," I thought and decided to move to 12mg/ml. Certainly that didn't provide the same satisfaction that I was used to getting in terms of throat hit. I suspect my total time vaping may have increased some as well.

    The diminution of light-headedness didn't seem to happen as it had when I previously cut nicotine levels. I shortly found myself cutting my 12mg/ml mixes to about 8ml. The light-headedness continued. Could I be satisfied with 6mg/ml or less..?

    By chance, I came across some commercially produced 18mg/ml ejuice I had purchased not long ago. Due to having some floral taste to it, I had left it to vent uncapped and it was away from where I might frequently notice it. I forgot about it for a while until I inadvertently came across it. I decided to give it a try. I was thinking that since I'm getting light-headed at ~8mg, 'this stuff is going to really take me for a ride.'

    I was pleased to find that was not the case at all. Thank goodness the throat hit was back and I'm experiencing no unusual light-headedness. In checking two other commercial 18mg/ml ejuices, I found no effects from one and some light-headedness from another. I don't plan on doing extensive vape testing of those that seem to produce such a side-effect, though verification could be valuable. Given an appropriate nicotine base, I could imagine returning to 24mg/ml.

    I not saying that there aren't other factors that could be at play, such as flavorings and bases, but it seems to me signs point towards particular nicotine sources as a cause of light-headed sensations.

    In addition to the many comparative qualities of nicotine properties found in this thread, there may others due consideration. Light-headedness and similar effects may be a category to evaluate. All nicotine may not be the same in this regard. Cumulative effects may be a concern. Did I mention arthritis..?

    A fresh nicotine base sample and VG has been obtained from a well respected source and no ill effects have been noticed at 18mg/ml. Perhaps I'll try some 24mg/ml.
     

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    I am not a medical expert but light-headedness could be a symptom of dehydration. Cutting down on pg might help. So does drinking liquids that replenish your electrolytes - coconut water for one. It reduces the need to drink a ton of water each day. Do you have occasional pain in any part of your body? That could be another symptom of dehydration. I personally feel more pain in my joints whenever I get dehydrated. Of course Nicotine could also be the curlpit, but with so many variables at work, it is hard to pin point the problem. I seriously doubt however that minuscule impurities in nicotine could cause light-headed-ness by themselves.
     
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