Rossum, I would be in to help if you still need participants. I vape from 12- 3 but would try higher and have an extensive variety of equipment to test with. Let me know if you still need someone, I am in the southeast.
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WhooHoo! I'm loving this. I'm sensitive to PG and internet challenged so I don't know if I'd make a good canidate. I've got some others in mind though (Mr. Mann, Lox).
I don't think the 33mg question is valid for today. The rest seems to be. I'd also like the definition of "peppery" spelled out because I've observed that some refer to peppery as a taste and some refer to the word as a feeling. My next question would be equipment since there is such a huge variety present today; low or high wattage, dripping, tank, clearo, and now, tc. I have no idea how that might effect results but it's quite possible a single user would vape using several types.
VT's nic has always been Chemnovatic. I had made a request to VT, because I had discovered how clean Inawera's nic base is. Molinberry, Inawera, and VT all from Chemnovatic.
I would be interested mr rossum sir. been wanting to do this anyway on a personal level tbh.
Well we need to make them up I guess. Google docs may be good, to have each add their results.
Like aikaine, I think a few lines on each participant would be good too. Mg strength, atty type, wick, watts, personal flavor clearity preference, ect.
I'm assuming we have enough people now with the recent willing participants, but we haven't heard from rossum yet..
Funny I was just ordering two more brands and was going to compare the 5 different brands I have myself.
Mfs, rts, older WL, ecx, & usaNic
None of them are on rossums list. So I'll be sitting on 9 samples here to compare.
I like a strong peppery nic and only mix tobacco flavors. Those with similar likes can review my picks.
Like aikaine, I think a few lines on each participant would be good too. Mg strength, atty type, wick, watts, personal flavor clearity preference, ect.
I'm assuming we have enough people now with the recent willing participants, but we haven't heard from rossum yet..
Funny I was just ordering two more brands and was going to compare the 5 different brands I have myself.
Mfs, rts, older WL, ecx, & usaNic
None of them are on rossums list. So I'll be sitting on 9 samples here to compare.
I like a strong peppery nic and only mix tobacco flavors. Those with similar likes can review my picks.
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Yep, I think we have enough people for this to go forward.
If anyone wants to add stuff they have in stock themselves to the comparison, they're certainly welcome to do that, but obviously that's not going to be a "blind" test, where the tester doesn't know what he's testing.
If anyone wants to add stuff they have in stock themselves to the comparison, they're certainly welcome to do that, but obviously that's not going to be a "blind" test, where the tester doesn't know what he's testing.
Participants:
1) Cool_Breeze
2) (Someone who's only PM'd me so far)
3) JeremyR (Mr. Rayon himself!)
4) clnire
5) NGAHaze
6) Dixie1954
7) 440BB (who still has some of the fabled WL Ice for comparison)
8) Wow1420
9) sketchness
10) artv61
11) aikanae1
12) k702
In fact, I think we have to call that a wrap because I only have 50 bottles to put the samples in and 48 of them are now spoken for.
#2 on the list above needs to speak up in public here.
If y'all would be so kind as to PM me your shipping address, I will get samples put together and headed your way this week.
Edit: Those in Green have given me their address.
1) Cool_Breeze
2) (Someone who's only PM'd me so far)
3) JeremyR (Mr. Rayon himself!)
4) clnire
5) NGAHaze
6) Dixie1954
7) 440BB (who still has some of the fabled WL Ice for comparison)
8) Wow1420
9) sketchness
10) artv61
11) aikanae1
12) k702
In fact, I think we have to call that a wrap because I only have 50 bottles to put the samples in and 48 of them are now spoken for.
#2 on the list above needs to speak up in public here.
If y'all would be so kind as to PM me your shipping address, I will get samples put together and headed your way this week.
Edit: Those in Green have given me their address.
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I really appreciate guys your staging of the test and involvement in it.
I was quiet during your discussion because I believe I am not a right person for this testing - somewhat different sense of taste, and definitely lazy with rewicking (once in a week is already too much for me).
I was quiet during your discussion because I believe I am not a right person for this testing - somewhat different sense of taste, and definitely lazy with rewicking (once in a week is already too much for me).
I will be following and look forward to the results. I gave some thought to taking part but my taster isn't that discerning 
Seems like all the different nics I have tasted tastes exactly the same. I have tried rts, mfs, wizard and nn.
Seems like all the different nics I have tasted tastes exactly the same. I have tried rts, mfs, wizard and nn.
Yeah, my tastebuds aren't great either.
I do like that this thread and the entire DIY community has pushed suppliers to supply better nic than days gone by.
I will in time be trying some NicSelect because they seem to have some quality now and are USA based, and then I'll be adding some WTA to my unflavored for some punch - make me a liquid ciggie, I will
I do like that this thread and the entire DIY community has pushed suppliers to supply better nic than days gone by.
I will in time be trying some NicSelect because they seem to have some quality now and are USA based, and then I'll be adding some WTA to my unflavored for some punch - make me a liquid ciggie, I will
I was also wondering what it might take $ to do a round 2. I suppose we should finish round 1 first? I prefer using fresh nic since storage is another variable.
Is there a list of nic manufacters? I know there's Alchem and Chemovac and one in NC, Nic River (?) - But how many are there?
Is there a list of nic manufacters? I know there's Alchem and Chemovac and one in NC, Nic River (?) - But how many are there?
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Alchem's NicSelect is indian based, with inventories in switzerland and us
Darn, thought they were the ones that were supposed to be USA nic.
I do have a question for Rossum - are you going to send 100% VG - I sure hope not as my clearos and me would not like it. Unless you send a wee bit of 100mg vg then I can mix it with pg and do the test.
No, all the nic I have is in straight PG. I prefer to buy nic that way for several reasons, which I'll elaborate if you want when I'm at a real computer with a real keyboard later today.
Reasons I prefer nic in PG rather than VG:
What I'm sending out is 100 mg/ml in straight PG, exactly as received from the vendors. Obviously, people WILL have to mix it down before they vape it! Yesterday, @Gahh posted:
- PG tends to be more consistent and neutral in terms of taste and smell from vendor to vendor than VG is.
- PG nic normally doesn't have any added water.
- VG nic from many vendors does have added water, but how much?
- VG nic w/o any added water is so thick that it's difficult to ensure the nic is uniformly mixed in the VG.
What I'm sending out is 100 mg/ml in straight PG, exactly as received from the vendors. Obviously, people WILL have to mix it down before they vape it! Yesterday, @Gahh posted:
Since this thread is in the DIY forum, I am taking it for granted that the participants are are familiar with the precautions that should be observed when dealing with 100mg nic.
Obviously people will be mixing down the 100mg/ml samples for testing and not adding flavoring. Should the testing participants otherwise share to the best possible degree, the same final PG/VG mix for testing?
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