pH is a dicey thing in liquids other than water, since it is an aqueous property dependent on the auto-ionization of water itself. That said, PG is somewhat more acidic than water.
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pH is a dicey thing in liquids other than water, since it is an aqueous property dependent on the auto-ionization of water itself. That said, PG is somewhat more acidic than water.
Need a little help brainstorming this one
I will be moving out of NY in June, likely going quite far (California, Texas, etc) pending how things pan out.
How would you suggest I go about transporting nic to minimize oxidation?
Generally I guess the options are mailing it to myself, or driving/flying it out.
If I transport it myself, should I try to keep it cool some how? Or just bundle it up in amber bottles and hope the A/C in my car protects it from the summer heat ravaging my supplies?
I'm all ears! I want to order about 1L more but I'm already worried about dealing with the ~1L or so I already own. I have no desire to pile up anymore than that as from my calculations ~300 ml of 100mg will cover me for a year, and that's probably a really high estimate. So figure 2L is 6 years if all goes optimally and even in the face of a hard ban I'm sure I'll find a plan B within a year or so
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I will be moving out of NY in June, likely going quite far (California, Texas, etc) pending how things pan out.
How would you suggest I go about transporting nic to minimize oxidation?
Generally I guess the options are mailing it to myself, or driving/flying it out.
If I transport it myself, should I try to keep it cool some how? Or just bundle it up in amber bottles and hope the A/C in my car protects it from the summer heat ravaging my supplies?
I'm all ears! I want to order about 1L more but I'm already worried about dealing with the ~1L or so I already own. I have no desire to pile up anymore than that as from my calculations ~300 ml of 100mg will cover me for a year, and that's probably a really high estimate. So figure 2L is 6 years if all goes optimally and even in the face of a hard ban I'm sure I'll find a plan B within a year or so
Holy thread hijack!
Need a little help brainstorming this one
I will be moving out of NY in June, likely going quite far (California, Texas, etc) pending how things pan out.
How would you suggest I go about transporting nic to minimize oxidation?
Generally I guess the options are mailing it to myself, or driving/flying it out.
If I transport it myself, should I try to keep it cool some how? Or just bundle it up in amber bottles and hope the A/C in my car protects it from the summer heat ravaging my supplies?
I'm all ears! I want to order about 1L more but I'm already worried about dealing with the ~1L or so I already own. I have no desire to pile up anymore than that as from my calculations ~300 ml of 100mg will cover me for a year, and that's probably a really high estimate. So figure 2L is 6 years if all goes optimally and even in the face of a hard ban I'm sure I'll find a plan B within a year or so
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Suggestion #1 .. come to Texas! Lower cost of living, NO state income taxes, no jammed up freeways .. and we have guns ;-)
Suggestion #2 .. just bring it in your car and if you stop at a hotel bring it into the hotel room so it stays cooler in the AC
I understand about you wanting to stock up .. I did the same thing and have enough 100mg WL ICE in the freezer to last me for 6 years.
A good old fashioned ice chest would transport the nic nicely. Just tell the cops it's urine samples for the hospital. LOL
Need a little help brainstorming this one
I will be moving out of NY in June, likely going quite far (California, Texas, etc) pending how things pan out.
How would you suggest I go about transporting nic to minimize oxidation?
Generally I guess the options are mailing it to myself, or driving/flying it out.
If I transport it myself, should I try to keep it cool some how? Or just bundle it up in amber bottles and hope the A/C in my car protects it from the summer heat ravaging my supplies?
I'm all ears! I want to order about 1L more but I'm already worried about dealing with the ~1L or so I already own. I have no desire to pile up anymore than that as from my calculations ~300 ml of 100mg will cover me for a year, and that's probably a really high estimate. So figure 2L is 6 years if all goes optimally and even in the face of a hard ban I'm sure I'll find a plan B within a year or so
Holy thread hijack!
I suggest moving to TX and stashing your NIC in GA. Only the two of us will know where it is. I'll visit it from time to time to make sure everything is OK.
.............Somebody P-shop his horses head on this for me, lol.
Hey Cyrus- stop here in Pa. and grab my cruiser/motorcycle for the trip. One last blast before the career/family part of life starts? Lol.
hi, I have read the whole thread, but I may have missed something. I looked at the chart too. I bought some 50/50, 12mg ice from wizard labs. normally I vape 6mg although some of my (premade) liquids are 12mg and most of those are 50/50 pv/vg.
this WL ice has a very strong throat hit for me. much stronger than my other 12mg liquids, including the halo one which I know has significantly more pg than vg (they told me that although wouldn't give me the exact numbers)
I don't diy (yet) but I do vape unflavored a lot (at 6mg nic) - I got this because of our lovely government.
this WL ice has a very strong throat hit for me. much stronger than my other 12mg liquids, including the halo one which I know has significantly more pg than vg (they told me that although wouldn't give me the exact numbers)
I don't diy (yet) but I do vape unflavored a lot (at 6mg nic) - I got this because of our lovely government.
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I know my WL regular has somewhat of a punch to it, but not what you're describing.
If it were me, I'd check my receipt with the box, email confirmation, account at their website, then give them a call for them to double check their records.
WL's a great place, but with this rush of business, mistakes happen.
Wouldn't hurt for every vaper to have a test kit.
How about diluting a small amount even further and see if that then matches what you're used to.
If it were me, I'd check my receipt with the box, email confirmation, account at their website, then give them a call for them to double check their records.
WL's a great place, but with this rush of business, mistakes happen.
Wouldn't hurt for every vaper to have a test kit.
How about diluting a small amount even further and see if that then matches what you're used to.
thanks. I did dilute it
the bottle says 12nic
the receipt says 12 nic
I'm only a little worried because they probably are rushing to fill orders and because most of the posts here say the ice is so mild, but maybe I misunderstood. I hate to call and bother them, maybe I'll get a test kit. and I probably am just being paranoid
This thread is incredibly educational and it took me 4 hours to read! Thanks for all the helpful info - diving into DIY as soon as I can get my hands on some nic. It seems everyone is out ...thanks FDA
...thanks FDA
Silly question cags but does your bottle say Wizard Ice on it? Just trying to eliminate the possibility that you got sent the regular nic. I would call Wizard Labs and discuss it with them for peace of mind.
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Funny stuff everybody. Looks like some kind of ice and car transport is going to be the way to go
But Shilo is right, she has dibs if it comes down to baby sitting
But Shilo is right, she has dibs if it comes down to baby sitting
yes, it says ice on the bottle
I wrote them about it and finally got a response yesterday, but it didn't say much other than the more pg the stronger the TH (I know that and mine is 50/50 like my other liquids.) and they said that the fresher it is the stronger the TH, so maybe that is the deal.yes, it says ice on the bottle
Sounds like they're confident in their process. That no mistakes have been made. I guess you'd be in LaLaLand if the nic was too high.
It's a shame if it's something that you cannot use.
I'll be able to use it, I can dilute it.
but!
today wizard labs called me. I believe it was the owner, do they monitor this thread?
anyway we had a long informative discussion and although I said it wasn't necessary he wants to test what I got (!) and although I feel like a silly PIA, he DID NOT make me feel that way at all!
all I can say is they now have my business for life and oh my, some vendors could take a lesson in customer service from them! CS is as important as the product for me so they get a big A++++++++++++++++
oh and PS he said he feels the ice has a slightly stronger TH than his others, so obviously I misunderstood the posts here!
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