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Nicotine overdose tingling cold limbs Help
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I am not sure either bud. I think my conditions have a bit to do with it psychologically. Although it definitely is odd that I have a lot of the Nic OD feelings that I have read about. I know I couldn't go 4+ hours without a few puffs since I started vaping, and I still am not craving any Nic, just the thought of vaping right now turns my stomach a little.
Not finding all the information out on how long these cold tingling feelings all lasts for, just can't wrap my finger around it.
Man, I enjoy diy'ing so much too, I really don't want to go back to them stinkers. I wI'll definitely open the garage up a bit next time, and I'll have to get me a fan too.
I was just curious if anyone had OD on nicotine from diy'ing in an unventilated area before, that's all. And I hope you don't ever have to walk in my shoes.
No one does, but please, please call your local poison control center next time. If you are in distress you will have an answer much sooner.
The dosage you might get from 12mg/mL fumes would be very low in comparison to vaping any strength.
If you can take Asprin I recommend taking a low dose and visiting your primary phiscian as soon as possible. Describe your symptoms to them over the phone before you go.
BigCap,
The problem as I see it is that your symptoms just don't make sense, not coming from inhaling fumes from a 12mg bottle, or even from skin exposure to 12mg liquid.
You say you vape a lot of 3mg, which should give you a lot more nic than just breathing fumes from a bottle, or a couple drops on your skin.
So, although your symptoms might match nic overdose, they also match a number of different poisoning symptoms, and it probably isn't nicotine at all. The fact that it "comes and goes" is not at all symptomatic of your exposure. Because of this, I strongly suspect that it is something else entirely in your environment. Do you have a CO detector (and does it have good batteries?) Anything else new in your environment (new cleaning supplies, new diet, anything like that?)
In any case, I think you're wrong about the cause of your symptoms, and if you jump to the conclusion that it's from your DIY (particularly when you've done this many times before with no problems) you could be overlooking something else which is much more serious.
I do not mean to trigger your anxiety any further, but perhaps you might try getting out of the house for a while, and see if your symptoms go away?
My ex wife had anxiety and that in and of itself can cause things on its own. She would feel like she was having a heart attack, asthma attack, dizziness, nausea, etc.
I'd seek medical attention, then get a good carbon monoxide tester, maybe do a radon test, check for any gas leaks (since you said there was a water heater in the area, assuming it's gas).
Doors being shut does not stop fumes, smoke, water, etc. Doors are not air or water tight, so being shut means very little when talking about leaks.
You could be sensitive because really at your mg, many people vape more at higher levels a day. I have sensitivity in my eyes but never had it happen with nic fumes. Do not lean over the bottle, loosely put the cap on in between fills and keep it as far away as you can when mixing, that should help some. I would also look into buying nic from a different source to see if that alleviates some issues.
Go to the doctor, let them run tests if need be, put hands and eyes on you. Do not take health advice from gremlins on the internet, lol. (Joke ppl) Relax and go get checked out, this might be a sign of something else.
I'd seek medical attention, then get a good carbon monoxide tester, maybe do a radon test, check for any gas leaks (since you said there was a water heater in the area, assuming it's gas).
Doors being shut does not stop fumes, smoke, water, etc. Doors are not air or water tight, so being shut means very little when talking about leaks.
You could be sensitive because really at your mg, many people vape more at higher levels a day. I have sensitivity in my eyes but never had it happen with nic fumes. Do not lean over the bottle, loosely put the cap on in between fills and keep it as far away as you can when mixing, that should help some. I would also look into buying nic from a different source to see if that alleviates some issues.
Go to the doctor, let them run tests if need be, put hands and eyes on you. Do not take health advice from gremlins on the internet, lol. (Joke ppl) Relax and go get checked out, this might be a sign of something else.
The fact that it is coming and going makes it almost certain this is not coming from exposure to anything in the garage. A much more plausible scenario (if you live in a climate similar to mine) is that your furnace has started to come on, and it's putting out carbon monoxide. This is fairly consistent with the symptoms described. There are also many other possibilities. Your symptoms seem severe enough that you shouldn't just wait for them to go away.
Jumping to the conclusion that this is nicotine-related is dangerous!
I believe I did get a nicotine OD (slight) from DIY before or at least I think. Never had it before or again. I was using 12mg as well. I do it by my sink with no gloves. It got pretty messy and I was having an awful time not getting the base everywhere including my hands. I did not wash them as I wasn't concerned because 12mgs is low stuff. I did not get the tingly in my finger or hands but I got a very strange feeling and the sweats. Felt lightheaded and other things. I washed up hands got a glass of ice water and sat down on the couch. The feeling lasted around an hour and dissipated.
This was 3 years ago. I still DIY the same.
Just my experience with it and I am not a doctor nor do I play one on TV.
This was 3 years ago. I still DIY the same.
Just my experience with it and I am not a doctor nor do I play one on TV.
It sounds more like an anxiety attack than a nic OD. 12mg is really not that much, 1.2% -- I work with 100mg, often get it on my fingers, which I just rinse in cold water (warm water opens pores, so cold is best for nicotine removal). Just normal home ventilation, nothing out of the ordinary.
I'm thinking you need to just vape less... which might require slightly increasing the nic in the juice you're vaping. Even 3mg could cause nic "OD" symptoms if you never set it down, or you're vaping at high wattage/low ohms.
Andria
ETA: usually the FIRST sign of "nic OD" is nausea, and/or stomach pain -- not tingling.
I do not use gloves even with 100 mg. Not problems. Just wipe/wash hands if a few drops got on them. Pretty harmless unless you spill a lot on a carpet.
I am VERY concerned you have an underlying issue.
I work with 100mg and have gotten it on me many times with -0- effect. I'm only 128lbs and 62yrs so the body isn't real resistant.
My work area is not Vented and I see no reason it needs to be.
None of the products we mix are High evaporation, except a few flavors.(fruits)
You almost sound Diabetic, or pre diabetic.
I would strongly suggest you have some standard testing done. Blood work, etc.
I work with 100mg and have gotten it on me many times with -0- effect. I'm only 128lbs and 62yrs so the body isn't real resistant.
My work area is not Vented and I see no reason it needs to be.None of the products we mix are High evaporation, except a few flavors.(fruits)
You almost sound Diabetic, or pre diabetic.
I would strongly suggest you have some standard testing done. Blood work, etc.
I am thinking your mind sent you to places you really didn't need to go and blew a super tiny event (the tip of your pinky) way out of proportion. I have ptsd and I know how the mind can make small things into humongous things. Thoughts can start echoing in the mind and just keep growing. I hope you are feeling better this morning. If not then it sounds like time to start checking your home for the cause. I can't see it being the nic at only 12mg.
Only you know yourself and only you can know if your panic attacks are something that happens on a regular basis and if you have or should see a doctor about it. Good luck.
Only you know yourself and only you can know if your panic attacks are something that happens on a regular basis and if you have or should see a doctor about it. Good luck.
I would also suggest seeing a Doctor.
Nicotine absorption through the skin is very slow and i'd say nothing to worry about with 12mg juice, unless you cover very large portions of skin with it and leave it there for an hour or more.
I've never seen any 'fumes' when mixing juice for the last year and a half. Evaporation at room temperature should be fairly low.
Your issues seem unrelated to the DIY'ing to me.
Nicotine absorption through the skin is very slow and i'd say nothing to worry about with 12mg juice, unless you cover very large portions of skin with it and leave it there for an hour or more.
I've never seen any 'fumes' when mixing juice for the last year and a half. Evaporation at room temperature should be fairly low.
Your issues seem unrelated to the DIY'ing to me.
I would like you to see a doctor. I have neuropathy (tingling hands and feet). I know some causes are:
Carpal tunnel
Lyme disease
Diabetes/hypoglycemia
I'm sure there are many others.
Carpal tunnel
Lyme disease
Diabetes/hypoglycemia
I'm sure there are many others.
I'm thinking a panic/anxiety attack could do it, too. Those stress hormones can do awful and unexpected things.
Andria
Never underestimate the power of your mind.
I'm too embarrassed to say on the internet what I found out last month my brain has managed to train my body not to do. I didn't know it was possible.
I would go see your doctor. The signs and symptoms of a panic attack develop abruptly and usually reach their peak within 10 minutes. Most panic attacks end within 20 to 30 minutes, and they rarely last more than an hour.
A full-blown panic attack includes a combination of the following signs and symptoms:
- Shortness of breath or hyperventilation
- Heart palpitations or a racing heart
- Chest pain or discomfort
- Trembling or shaking
- Choking feeling
- Feeling unreal or detached from your surroundings
- Sweating
- Nausea or upset stomach
- Feeling dizzy, light-headed, or faint
- Numbness or tingling sensations in the hands and fingers
- Hot or cold flashes feeling sweaty or having chills
- Fear of dying, losing control, or going crazy
- Sense of terror, or impending doom or death
If you're feeling anxiety symptoms like heart palpitations or similar effects it's most likely from something else. It sounds like you were careful enough to not get any nicotine on your skin, which can cause odd feelings like the tingling skin.
It's possible you triggered an attack too, but you already know that. I would take suggestions from other members and see your doctor if you're worried, always good to hear from someone you trust. Try not to obsess until you get checked out either, totally works against you.
Make sure you eat well too, doing anything including vaping on an empty stomach isn't good.
It's possible you triggered an attack too, but you already know that. I would take suggestions from other members and see your doctor if you're worried, always good to hear from someone you trust. Try not to obsess until you get checked out either, totally works against you.
Make sure you eat well too, doing anything including vaping on an empty stomach isn't good.
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