Non Kanger KR808D-1 battery at LeCig.com

[Kelemvor]

they can be refilled, its a bit tricky, but inside is even a normal cart.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nhaler/51366-greencart-greencig-mod-video-sound-time.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nhaler/57177-help-greencig-carts-please.html

and at last one of the 1st, sorry its german, but quiet detailed pictures: YouTube - Refill VR 1 - 3

can't be refilled ?

 

[CodyZ]

Snarky, was that an automatic or manual battery?

Also, you say it does work with GreenCig carts (as do the Kanger auto batts). Did you receive the GreenCig carts from LeCig?

Don,

I have an 808D-2 battery from LeCig and that works great with GS carts. You still have to pick up GS carts from GreenSmoke tho.

CodyZ

 

[Cielo]

Thanks for that video, it shows perfectly how to refill! One question as I dont understand german...did he say approx how many ml's of juice he put in there? Everything else is perfectly clear

 

[Kelemvor]

0.5-0.6ml for the 1st refill option with the syringe

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Don,

I have an 808D-2 battery from LeCig and that works great with GS carts. You still have to pick up GS carts from GreenSmoke tho.

CodyZ

Cody, GreenCig and Green Smoke are two different e-cigs. They're both cartomizers, but not compatible. LeCig's 808D-2 and Green Smoke are both E9 models, not KR808D-1 (whoever makes it). GreenCig cartomizers will work with Kr8 batteries (automatic only or with an adapter for manual), Green Smoke will not.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

yes they do say greencig on them in very fancy writing. I didnt realize these can not be refilled. I pulled the white cap off and under it was a black rubber seal and some type of material (glue?) to hold it in. I removed this too and now it draws perfectly. Yes it is certainly superior to any other cartomizer but they cant be refilled or washed. I will enjoy these while they last but its not something that I will be able to afford to buy again until I graduate and find a job...

They can be refilled. There's a very cumbersome way (that you started to explore), which I've never pursued ... and there is the easy way, which, of course, I use. Simply drip juice into the hole at the battery end (just as can be done with Kr8 carts). GreenCig carts have much greater capacity than Kr8's; when the vapor tapers off, I can drip about 10 drops in easily.

Eventually you do reach a point of diminishing returns, but, by then, I've definitely gotten my money's worth. Using LeCig's prices for comparison, GreenCig carts cost 30% more than Kr8 ($13 to $10), but they last me at least twice as long. Because of their minimal throat hit, GreenCig is not my primary vape (penstyle is), but it is a wonderful one to bounce back and forth with: smooth flavor and great vapor. I use 0mg e-liquid, since I don't expect to get TH from GreenCig anyway.

 

[tarkus]

If your greencig cartos are giving you diminishing returns they are very easy to clean once you get the endcap off. I simply pull out the filler cartridge. Remove filler from cartridge. (filler may look dark but turns white again with cleaning) Soak filler, empty cartridge, and atty end of carto in vodka, rinse and dry. Put back together and they work just like new. I have used a couple of these with over 20 refills and have yet to have one fail.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

If your greencig cartos are giving you diminishing returns they are very easy to clean once you get the endcap off. I simply pull out the filler cartridge. Remove filler from cartridge. (filler may look dark but turns white again with cleaning) Soak filler, empty cartridge, and atty end of carto in vodka, rinse and dry. Put back together and they work just like new. I have used a couple of these with over 20 refills and have yet to have one fail.

Tarkus, I do appreciate your suggestion. However, I'm the kind of guy who happily will type endlessly on a computer keyboard, but chafes at doing actual work (i.e., manual labor). After a couple weeks' use (the GreenCig cartomizer is only one of the attys I use), I don't mind screwing on a fresh one (cost: $2.60).

Or perhaps I can find a local cartomizer cleaning service. [Ooo! A money-making idea for any entrepreneur out there!]

 

[Snarkyone]

yes they do say greencig on them in very fancy writing. I didnt realize these can not be refilled. I pulled the white cap off and under it was a black rubber seal and some type of material (glue?) to hold it in. I removed this too and now it draws perfectly. Yes it is certainly superior to any other cartomizer but they cant be refilled or washed. I will enjoy these while they last but its not something that I will be able to afford to buy again until I graduate and find a job.

I will try to punch a small hole in the "G" of the remaining ones instead of tearing them apart. Thanks very much!

Don't know who told you that GC carts cannot be refilled since they are incredibly easy to refill! There are so many different methods and all of them are much cleaner than the 3pc carts. As for the KR carts not getting that cardboard and scorched taste just give it time, they run on a thin line, once you scorch it then it's all downhill from there. That to me is the big advantage of the GC carts over the KR carts. You simply cannot scorch these no matter how dry you try to vape it. They last a lot longer for me than the KR carts as well. I am not saying that the KR carts are crap by any means they are vastly superior to ANY 3pc model in my honest opinion. KR or GC either way you can't go wrong.

 

[Cielo]

Its been 6 days and I have been rotating using two of the greencig carts. Neither one are empty yet! As soon as one of them get low, I will let you know how the refill goes. I will probably pull the first one apart and clean as advised then refill, but will refill the second one with the battery side drip method. Just want to see if there is a difference.

 

[Viv Savage]

Is anyone familiar with the Duo Pro from Electronic Cigarettes, Inc. and happen to know which model it is? It is a cartomizer model, but their website simply says it's a KR808D...period (no dash, no number). I asked but got this shameful response from them:

The Duo Pro is not actually the Kr808d-1 although I am fairly sure it is
compatible and interchangeable with the unit. I do not know the exact model
number or specifications.

If I am understanding this thread correctly (odds are 50-50 on that), though... if it's "not actually the Kr808d-1", then it would not be compatible with another KR808D (i.e. a '-2')... correct?

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Is anyone familiar with the Duo Pro from Electronic Cigarettes, Inc. and happen to know which model it is? It is a cartomizer model, but their website simply says it's a KR808D...period (no dash, no number). I asked but got this shameful response from them:

The Duo Pro is not actually the Kr808d-1 although I am fairly sure it is
compatible and interchangeable with the unit. I do not know the exact model
number or specifications.

If I am understanding this thread correctly (odds are 50-50 on that), though... if it's "not actually the Kr808d-1", then it would not be compatible with another KR808D (i.e. a '-2')... correct?

Why would you want it, whatever the model? It's overpriced.

 

[zelda]

I'm using a greencig cart on a 808 automatic passthru and it works fine. Though out of the 5 pack of greencig carts I got only 2 are lasting 2 died in a day each and 1 only lasted an afternoon.

 

[Viv Savage]

Alrighty then, well how about someone at least letting me know if I'm correctly understanding the compatibility (or not) of the different KR8's... and, in doing so, I think I phrased my question wrong anyway and need to edit it as such:

If I am understanding this thread correctly (odds are 50-50 on that), though... if it's "not actually the Kr808d-1", then it would not be compatible with a KR808D-1 (assuming it must be a 'D-2' then, and therefore not compatible)... correct?

I hope that makes sense... I'm confusing myself now...

 

[Cielo]

kr8-1 and kr8-2 are not compatible! The threads are different and the cartomizers and chargers are not interchangeable. I posted a picture of both of mine on the first on page of this thread so you can see the difference

 

[Cielo]

left: kr8-1
right: kr8-2

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[Viv Savage]

kr8-1 and kr8-2 are not compatible!

Thanks, Cielo!

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Further clarification: KR808D-2 (or simply D-2) is the name LeCig gives the E9 model (e.g., Green Smoke, Smoke51 DUO, Loong Totem, Vapure, Red Dragon...). KR808D-1 is the model # Kanger assigned to the model most ECF members* use and which most ECF participating suppliers* sell (under myriad brand names). LeCig and NHaler are the only suppliers I know of who sell the KR808D-1 and E9 models (and they both also sell GreenCig).

* That is, most of those that use or sell a cartomizer unit.

Kr8 is a shorthand for KR808D-1 that some of us ECF members (who were sick and tired of pronouncing and typing it) dreamed up and which Smokey Joe was kind enough to endorse with that ___ reference thingie. Outside of ECF, most people won't know what you're talking about.

Clear as mud?

 

[Viv Savage]

Further clarification: KR808D-2 (or simply D-2) is the name LeCig gives the E9 model (e.g., Green Smoke, Smoke51 DUO, Loong Totem, Vapure, Red Dragon...). KR808D-1 is the model # Kanger assigned to the model most ECF members* use and which most ECF participating suppliers* sell (under myriad brand names). LeCig and NHaler are the only suppliers I know of who sell the KR808D-1 and E9 models (and they both also sell GreenCig).

* That is, most of those that use or sell a cartomizer unit.

Kr8 is a shorthand for KR808D-1 that some of us ECF members (who were sick and tired of pronouncing and typing it) dreamed up and which Smokey Joe was kind enough to endorse with that ___ reference thingie. Outside of ECF, most people won't know what you're talking about.

Clear as mud?

Yes! As dark chocolately mud! Yes, really, that was very helpful as always, Don, thank you... and again I learned something new, as I did not realize that the KR808D-2 was the same as the E9.

HOWEVER... that actually leads to even more confusion I'm having in trying to decipher what model the Nebula is (by VaporNine)... or rather, what the hell is a V9?! I am 99% certain the Nebula is a KR808D-1, but the "more confusion" part comes from:
(1) VaporNine also calling the Nebula a 'V9' (hence, the name "VaporNine", methinks!)
(2) and GrimmGreen labeling the products you just referenced as E9 devices as V9 devices (in a VaporNine thread):

the model is a KR808D-1 , it can NOT be used with red dragon products , Bloogplanet or loong totem v9 models (smoke51) it's compatible with the vaporking from vapor4life , "the Easy" from cigeasy.com and the cartomizers that nHaler.com sells

Do you think GrimmGreen just made a typo and meant to say E9? And, if so, what is a V9, then? Lemme guess... this (like the KR808D-2 equals the E9), is another case where the V9 is just the name VaporNine gave the KR808D-1?

Thank you so much for your patience and education... You know from another post of mine that I'm just trying to become an expert!

(and my apologies if I've taken this thread off topic from LeCig's new battery... I could tell you all were experts on the subject matter, so I knew I'd get some proper answers )

 

[Cielo]

When Vendors give pv models different names than what they actually "are" it is extremely confusing. It would be much easier if all vendors used a standard naming convention.

Portions of this thread should be remade into a new sticky that clearly explain the difference between the kr8-1 and E9 along with pictures. Thanks to everyone here that has taken the time to clarify and explain the difference. DonDaBoomVape is definitely the kr8 guru and has my utmost respect.