Way to ruin my uber-steamy showers
Now I'm busy reading up on chlorine poisoning from showering and heavy metal inhalation...Non-Smoker thinking of vaping nic free flavours, any danger?
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Way to ruin my uber-steamy showers
Now I'm busy reading up on chlorine poisoning from showering and heavy metal inhalation...Everything will kill us anyway if we believe what we hear in the media.
Trace elements are in the air we breathe, especially if we live near roads.
Ventolin inhalers and the like utilise moisture delivery, I have no idea why this kind of device isnt used to deliver medications, straight to the lungs and into the bloodstream rapidly, sounds pretty useful.
Trace elements are in the air we breathe, especially if we live near roads.
Ventolin inhalers and the like utilise moisture delivery, I have no idea why this kind of device isnt used to deliver medications, straight to the lungs and into the bloodstream rapidly, sounds pretty useful.
Fox, I agree......However I am thinking if you never have been a smoker what would be the lure to try something that mimics smoking??? I have been off analogs for three weeks and am switching to 0 nic from 6mg this week. The habit of smoking is very complex and nicotine is just one factor to it. Even E cigs aren't socially acceptable at this point, so I guess I don't see why you would do it.
Fox, I agree......However I am thinking if you never have been a smoker what would be the lure to try something that mimics smoking??? I have been off analogs for three weeks and am switching to 0 nic from 6mg this week. The habit of smoking is very complex and nicotine is just one factor to it. Even E cigs aren't socially acceptable at this point, so I guess I don't see why you would do it.
I dont see it as mimicing smoking, I just see the PV as a delivery method for things that taste nice
I am a big fan of red bull and have to stop buying so much of it, if I can enjoy the actual flavour of it, that of coffee and other things in this form, I will save quite a bit of money.
As for being socially acceptable, I live in Melbourne, Australia, its quite an.. eccentric city.
You do realize that you can buy just the concentrated flavor drops and put that in water, right?
So if you know you can get the flavoring to put into water, and the reason you're thinking about vaping is the taste, why would you want to take up vaping?
Oh I thought you meant for putting into the PV.
Its handy, I sit at a desk all day, have hardly any time, I could safely use one of these when I so choose, and keep on working.
I havent found one risk, aside from screwups associated with bad juice, which wont be happening as I will be mixing it myself from concentrate. (if I did this)
I am at no risk of this being a "gateway" as smoking itself, nicotine, holds zero appeal, actually an amount of revulsion.
Why? Why not, its convenient, doesnt drop crumbs in to my keyboard, doesnt have calories...
Well of course you haven't found any risks yet, since these things have only been out a few years. It took hundreds of years before the dangers of smoking became obvious.
Clearly everyone on here thinks and hopes there are no downsides to ecigs, but the truth is that no one really knows what the long term effects are. The difference between what most everyone else is doing and what you are thinking of doing is we are trying to get off or at least reduce our smoking tobacco. For us it's almost a no brainer to use these, but I just don't understand why people like yourself that don't smoke would want to pick up the habit.
Just so you know, I'll bet dam near everyone on here, when they started smoking, thought that they'd never get addicted. It turns out we were all wrong. Why take that risk?
The only dangers are the unknown long-term effects of vaping these flavorings.
You're an adult...your call, but it seems like a risk without much gain behind it if you don't need to for the sake of nicotine addiction.
Sure, it's no calories and flavored. So is diet soda and sugar-free gum..
You're an adult...your call, but it seems like a risk without much gain behind it if you don't need to for the sake of nicotine addiction.
Sure, it's no calories and flavored. So is diet soda and sugar-free gum..
This one time, I was thinking about going to a rehab facility. Not because I was hooked on drugs, but because I heard they serve good food and the beds are cozy.
Maybe She works for the FDA and is here to see if We suggest products for here to use and encourage her to try it?
Seriously though, I don't mean to be rude. You seem like a smart woman, You appear to have done Your research.
With that said, don't do something foolish and take up a bad habit. It's hard enough to stay alive as is, no need to add any potential risks to Your health, even if they are small ones.
Maybe She works for the FDA and is here to see if We suggest products for here to use and encourage her to try it?
Seriously though, I don't mean to be rude. You seem like a smart woman, You appear to have done Your research.
With that said, don't do something foolish and take up a bad habit. It's hard enough to stay alive as is, no need to add any potential risks to Your health, even if they are small ones.
I don't think I would even like vaping if I had never been a smoker. It still hits your lungs more then you might be thinking. To me, a hit off an ecig is actually rougher then a drag off an analog. The difference being that I feel anaglogs every minute of everyday, whereas the ecig I only feel while I am actively using it.
Just saying, if your lungs aren't used to smoking, there is a decent chance you might find it VERY unpleasant.
Just saying, if your lungs aren't used to smoking, there is a decent chance you might find it VERY unpleasant.
Ah, I see you're from Australia. If you do start vaping, I regret to inform you there's no Vegemite or Weetbix flavor
Oh that is all kinds of wrong
Well, I am trying to find out what the flavours are, they seem like a basic atomized ester, which are widely distributed and safe. If you do not use demineralised water, yes, it is dangerous.
Vegemite, oh yuk
Heh, nah I don't work for the FDA, having read over so many stories of how so many of you now dont use analog cigs, these things should be legal and sold alongside the analog counterparts afaic. I am going to buy a box of disposables and give them to friends who smoke.
Im just evaluating it whether the convenience, saved money and time is worth it. I have a non addictive personality and if its harmless.. Ill give it a try. But I wont go and make an uninformed decision, I know an industrial chemist, I might see if he can do some tests for me.
Im just evaluating it whether the convenience, saved money and time is worth it. I have a non addictive personality and if its harmless.. Ill give it a try. But I wont go and make an uninformed decision, I know an industrial chemist, I might see if he can do some tests for me.
These threads seem to pop up every so often... I wonder if there are drug rehab forums that have people pop in every once in a while and say something like, "Hi! I've never tried h****n in my life, but methadone looks like fun. Any recommendations?"
I know it's not an apples-to-apples comparison, but really -- if one has never developed a habit that was bad for them, why start playing around with a reduced-harm replacement?
I know it's not an apples-to-apples comparison, but really -- if one has never developed a habit that was bad for them, why start playing around with a reduced-harm replacement?
If I was looking to use nicotine juices, yeah, that would be stupid..
I can see how the product can be used as a replacement, but if I am for example, vaping chocolate flavours.. then how can that be a replacement.
I just saw it as a time and money saving convenience, I get cravings for sweet things and certain flavours, and wish to abolish or at least reduce them.
I can see how the product can be used as a replacement, but if I am for example, vaping chocolate flavours.. then how can that be a replacement.
I just saw it as a time and money saving convenience, I get cravings for sweet things and certain flavours, and wish to abolish or at least reduce them.
I like my chocolaty flavors too, but it sadly does nothing for my recurring cravings for Whatchamacallit bars
I still cant find any dangers from VG.
Even with a non addictive personality, if I somehow became addicted to the action, as one may become addicted to any other action, then that is something I can deal with. If its not damaging to health, I cant see a problem.
I most likely wouldnt be inhaling, no reason to, well, if it was a particularly dry day I may, couldnt hurt to have extra moisture.
Even with a non addictive personality, if I somehow became addicted to the action, as one may become addicted to any other action, then that is something I can deal with. If its not damaging to health, I cant see a problem.
I most likely wouldnt be inhaling, no reason to, well, if it was a particularly dry day I may, couldnt hurt to have extra moisture.
While I am inclined to agree starting vaping having never smoked is probably not a great idea, I do have a few thoughts:
I'm betting most of us started smoking well knowing that is was GOING to hurt or kill us. Not maybe, it was happening, and we knew it and did it anyway. We tried it for a variety of reasons, and vaping will likely go a similar route. Not everyone vaping is looking to quit smoking after all.
I know lots of people that don't smoke, but will smoke hooka from time to time. Even many non smokers enjoy smoking, and nicotine too. Don't have to be addicted to a substance to enjoy it's effects. I drink sometimes, but am not an alcoholic.
Oh, and I really doubt you would accidently get addicted to nic if you got a bottle with some in it by accident. You would figure it out pretty quick and could just throw that one out/mail it to me
And you will find vaping actually dries you out more, so it can be a little harsh on a dry day, contrary to how it would seem.
Just some food for thought.
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