non smokers vaping?
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Shh, don't let the FDA and Big Tobacco hear ya. lol. Next they will say we are trying to addict non-smokers. To each their own. Live and let live.
Sorry, I am one of those that believe that is a stop smoking tool & should not be used as a hey look at me I'm cool. Yes it is a free country and people have that right, but we who have chosen it to help us quit stinkies already have enough trouble with people who don't understand it and it is more ammo for the FDA. just my
Sorry, I am one of those that believe that is a stop smoking tool & should not be used as a hey look at me I'm cool. Yes it is a free country and people have that right, but we who have chosen it to help us quit stinkies already have enough trouble with people who don't understand it and it is more ammo for the FDA. just my
Most people here want to tell us that Vaping is very safe, and how can that be true if you cannot recommend it to be used by someone who is not a smoker? If you feel that is is a tool for people to stop smoking only, then IT SHOULD be regulated as such.
By saying that is should be a tool for a smoking alternative, you are already giving ammo to the FDA for more regulation.
I'm all for it. If people can get exposure and make it a more socially accepted "vice", and I use that term loosely, more power to them. Lets just hope they educate themselves about it as much as this community has and continues to do.
I think that people should be able to do as they see fit. Those times in this country are long gone, if enough people see a certain way fit for them the government will start looking to new tax revenue streams or other ways of increasing their influence through legislation.
There are artists who do not regularly use nicotine that use it because "it sparks creativity". It is a naturally occurring stimulant that has significant health concerns with it's original delivery systems.
Having said all that I will just sit here quietly stockpiling my closet and freezer while waiting for all this to pan out
There are artists who do not regularly use nicotine that use it because "it sparks creativity". It is a naturally occurring stimulant that has significant health concerns with it's original delivery systems.
Having said all that I will just sit here quietly stockpiling my closet and freezer while waiting for all this to pan out
I read in my local paper that there is a huge increase In middle and high school students using ecigs which is definitely not good for the FDA
I myself am pretty young (21) but ecigs for me are truly to stop analogs my fiancé hates analogs and would just get angry everytime I had one and I didn't like my 3 year old daughter seeing me with a analog In my mouth.
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I myself am pretty young (21) but ecigs for me are truly to stop analogs my fiancé hates analogs and would just get angry everytime I had one and I didn't like my 3 year old daughter seeing me with a analog In my mouth.
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I once felt this way myself. I was worried how the FDA would look at non-smokers taking up vaping. However, vaping can be done without nicotine involved, as my daughter proved to me.Sorry, I am one of those that believe that is a stop smoking tool & should not be used as a hey look at me I'm cool. Yes it is a free country and people have that right, but we who have chosen it to help us quit stinkies already have enough trouble with people who don't understand it and it is more ammo for the FDA. just my
My daughter has never smoked. For her 18th birthday, her request was for her own mod setup. Her brother is a smoker, her BF is a smoker, and several of her friends are smokers. Considering the people that she spent a lot of time with, I was fearful of her picking up the habit herself. She only wanted to vape NO NICOTINE flavors.
I got her an advanced starters kit with NO NICOTINE flavored e-liquid. Within a couple of months, her brother, her BF, and a couple of her friends had gotten their own e-cigarettes in order to QUIT SMOKING. Even her mother gave vaping an attempt to quit smoking.
I found it is better to look at the big picture for the greater good than to judge others. Because of my daughter's influence on the above people because of her vaping, she has gotten several smokers to quit smoking.
Underage kids will always have some type of access to either cigarettes or e-cigarettes despite laws forbidding minors to use them. More investigation needs to be done to find out how minors get their hands on adults-only substances. On the other side of the coin, I'd rather see them vaping than smoking. There is absolutely no evidence or proof of the notion that e-cigarettes will be a gateway to smoking. This myth is hog wash perpetrated by the anti-smoker groups.
I've seen couples come into my local vape shop, where one is a smoker wanting to quit, while the other partner is a non-smoker who wants to show support to help his partner to quit by joining in the activity by using NO NICOTINE flavored e-liquids. This type of support can help bond the couple more closely and I believe could add to the success of the smoking partner, with minimal if any risks involved for the non-smoker partner.
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My son was in high school when I switched to vaping, and he was my biggest supporter. He is now a freshman in college, and recently observed quite a few guys on his floor taking up vaping, most all of them non smokers. He thought it was funny since they bought overpriced stuff based on what he knows about vaping from me. Many of them are using non nicotine liquid and enjoy blowing big clouds and smoke rings. He tried it himself a couple times before college, and although he's never had a cigarette, he can blow smoke rings while I can't!
We talked about this being a great thing for smokers, but not a good idea for non smokers, as it builds the physical habit of smoking and could lead some to moving further into nicotine addiction. He's a logical guy and makes good choices, so I'm not too concerned, but many might end up liking, then needing the nic just like we do. That's not a good thing.
We talked about this being a great thing for smokers, but not a good idea for non smokers, as it builds the physical habit of smoking and could lead some to moving further into nicotine addiction. He's a logical guy and makes good choices, so I'm not too concerned, but many might end up liking, then needing the nic just like we do. That's not a good thing.
Loving the opinions on here. I've got to go with stlhawks on this one. If we can make it more socially acceptable then it would be a lot easier on the vaping community. I was not a smoker but have chewed tobacco for almost 10 years. Ill never look back. Its also a major plus to me that vaping is a hobby more than a vice
My take is much the same as it is with people who decide to "pick up" drinking coffee or energy drinks. "Who cares". That being said; I have met maybe two other people, not at a B&M, other than myself who vape. My children go to a large (class A) school district and they've never, ever, told me they've seen anyone vaping other than me. I find theses claim dubious, at best.
Good point. I'm a ex-smoker who loved smoking but had to quit cause it's terrible for you and other reasons. I took up vaping cause it's supposed to be a "safer alternative" and it keeps me from going back to analogs. If we are strictly calling it a cessation alternative like patches and gum then it should be regulated as such. So which is it? "Safe" or just another cessation device...
I would hope that they start off with, and stay with 0mg nic juice. Vaping does taste good.
These people are simply the same group of "new smokers" that would have started on analogs if vaping weren't around. Every day, some people start smoking. Now days, they have the option to start a healthier bad habit. If they start off with (and stay at) at 0nic, they should be able to quit at any time without a problem. So where's the harm in that? There isn't any. Even if they get addicted to nicotine through vaping and then quit, a "relapse" would mean that they go back to vaping. I seriously doubt that they would turn to analogs in a relapse since they were never smokers to begin with. I really don't see a problem with it.
These people are simply the same group of "new smokers" that would have started on analogs if vaping weren't around. Every day, some people start smoking. Now days, they have the option to start a healthier bad habit. If they start off with (and stay at) at 0nic, they should be able to quit at any time without a problem. So where's the harm in that? There isn't any. Even if they get addicted to nicotine through vaping and then quit, a "relapse" would mean that they go back to vaping. I seriously doubt that they would turn to analogs in a relapse since they were never smokers to begin with. I really don't see a problem with it.
I believe there is a safety to vaping. They may not be 100% safe but there is a major safety compared to analogs. But I think people look at it as a nothing but "smoking" therefore no one is giving it the light of day. If we treat it only as smoking and dont give vaping its own class other than a "quitting tool" that's were it will stay. Under FDA control.
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