Kudos to n2xe and Andrew Raia....i feel ashamed at this moment in time to share the same colour hair as that Rosenthal woman ! Is she for real ??!!
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Kudos to n2xe and Andrew Raia....i feel ashamed at this moment in time to share the same colour hair as that Rosenthal woman ! Is she for real ??!!
Where is the proof that continuing to smoke is safer than switching to an e-cigarette? What's the death toll so far, from e-cigarette use? How many hospitalizations are attributable to e-cigarette usage?
Well it sounds like no amount of reason, logic or fact will sway the level of stupidity displayed in my home State. Yes the same State that happily takes $10.20 per pack to kill yourself and would like nothing better than to keep that money coming in. The State Assembly of NY is run mostly by criminals and simpletons (there are a limited few that are actually good) who are not looking out for the best interest of their constituents. Our hopes must lie with the State senate and each and every ECF member who lives in NY should let there Senate Rep know this is unacceptable.
More news (CBS): NY Lawmakers Advance Bill That Would Ban ‘E-Cigarettes’
They are looking for sound off comments "SOUND-OFF: Are e-cigarettes safe? Are the politicians doing the right thing or overstepping their bounds? Let Us Know"
They are looking for sound off comments "SOUND-OFF: Are e-cigarettes safe? Are the politicians doing the right thing or overstepping their bounds? Let Us Know"
So I wonder if NY has banned the sale of flavored wines, wine coolers, alco-pops such as Smirnoff ice and the sort. I'm sure if flavored nicotine liquid needs to be banned because it entices non-smoking youth then the flavored alcohol will prove to do the same. Oh and while they are at it, they need to ban Taco Bell for not selling real beef in their tacos. Can't forget about McDonalds either since they entice young children to enter into a life of eating artery clogging fast food just so they can get the nickle prize at the bottom of the box.
I'm sure that this is not far off for Utah now being the bible thumping run government that they are..
I'm sure that this is not far off for Utah now being the bible thumping run government that they are..
I took the morning off from work to fax and call these people and I sincerely doubt hardly any of them read or listened. I'ts times like this I HATE NEW YORK. I'm contacting my assemblyman and senator by written letter as well as by fax, email, and phone and I suggest every new yorker does the same. They only give a hoot if your a voter in their district. afrazier5: don't give them any ideas--I wouldn't put it past them to do precisely that! 
No most of us vote for the best bonehead possible. In politics most politicians leave a lot to be desired. This fight is not just for NY and most realize that. Remember these same people were the first to bring us the seatbelt law, cellphone while driving ban and smoking in bar and restaurant bans. Once a law gets on the books many states follow suit.
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"I was a smoker of 30+ years and had tried many different ways to quit from cold turkey, patches, etc. NOTHING worked more than a week, that is until I tried my first personal vaporizer (I refuse to call them an e-cig as they are not related to the deadly cancer sticks). I have now been smoke free for almost 3 months and stopped the first day I tried my PV. I can breath better, taste better and smell better and for that I am happy that this device was available for me.
Smoking is an addiction and all alternates should be available to try. If these are bad enough for us that they need to be banned then what does that say about cigarettes that we know can kill you? It says that this is clearly about the $$$ and nothing else. Big Pharmacies and Big tobacco are scared of these devices because they can see that they work, period."
Not good with words, only speak three languages - Gibberish, Redneckense, and Canadian (just a joke folks, nothing against Canadians ). But this is what I wrote...
). But this is what I wrote...
Rosenthal keeps saying that we don't need a "crutch" to quit smoking yet she told reporters yesterday that she used nicotine patches. So she gets to use a crutch but we dont.
Remember this if you have the opportunity to talk to the press...
Remember this if you have the opportunity to talk to the press...
"If people want the easy way to just get addicted to another nicotine delivery system,
I hope soon they'll have to look elsewhere."
Linda Rosenthal
wicked witch of the East
Why would anyone without a financial interest in tobacco not want it to be easy to quit? I am dumbfounded...
The Federal court has ruled for the third time that the e-cig must be regulated as a tobacco product, New York has no legal ground to ban the e-cig, this will end up in court. However it's disheartening to know it passed unanimously. the lies are about to gather steam via Faux News and the real organ grinders. FROM MY DEAD COLD HANDS
Banning e-cigs is mass murder!
Banning e-cigs is mass murder!
When I heard and read what Linda Rosenthal had to say, first I laughed a certain part of my body off. Then I started feeling sorry for the US. Hell, and I thought it was bad over here in Europe. Land of the free, my ehm... ex body part. Isn't it amazing how the stupidest lost body parts always end up in politics.
It's not just the New York residents who would be adversely effected by this. I may live in Massachusetts, but I buy my juice from a New York vendor. I'll continue to contact the Assembly members, surely some of them can think for themselves. This woman cannot get between me and my waffle!
(Side note, I never remember if it's affect or effect, and when I just looked up effect online, this was one of the examples....
The duty of the legislature is to effect the will of the people
...perhaps someone should remind Ms. Rosenthal of this. She appears to be doing just the opposite.)
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Because anti-tobacco corporations and goverment agencies do have a financial interest in pharmaceuticals, health care services, as well as tobacco taxes and MSA payments that are generated by continued smoking. Its the dark secret they don't want to admit to themselves, but it is obviously true: So called "health" professionals and agencies are financially dependent on the direct and indirect revenue such that any "cure" for the status quo that does not benefit them is a threat. That explains the underlying "if you are not with us, you're with the terrorists" attitude against harm reduction: E-cigarettes represent a very real threat to the status quo without currently offering anything to fill the void except us vapers who don't smoke but didn't buy FDA Approved Drugs™ to do it.
Even if e-cigs only proved to help 1 out of 4 smokers to stop smoking, imagine for a moment the financial impact on the pharmaceutical, health care, and insurance industries and related government health and education programs if 11,500,000 Americans stopped spending $10 or more every day on cigarettes or nicotine patches? You better believe they are interested in the "long term effects" of vaping, but "I don't think that means, what you think it means"
At this point the "powers that be" aren't as concerned with keeping the public from being able to buy e-cigarettes, their problem is with their ability to determine who is allowed to sell them. The FDA desperately needs the ability to ban so they can hold back the market long enough to figure out how to keep themselves employed when millions of smokers find out that they don't have to suffer through repeated failed attempts to quit using recreational nicotine or tobacco products altogether to avoid more than 99% of the risks of smoking.
I'm afraid we might need taxes on smoking replacements just to shut up the greedy b...bureaucrats long enough to simply let us vape in peace.
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