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Thanks for your answers Hanna. I. However, in connection with the custom HHs I meant to say whether there was a substantial difference or not so much, in case you are not a 100 % VG or 100% PG user, but just a regular combination of PG-VG user. In that case, is it improved over a regular HH... !?
II. I really appreciate your description to the Venturi Effect as produced in an HH. One more thing (I'm sorry I'm a pain...! Heee), because I am not sure...
Is the "deposit" just the ss mesh sorrounding the coil, or is there another one down... !? I guess it is the former, but I am not sure...
And also: How many wicking "channels" are there !? Two !? One into the wicking 'from inside' the ceramic cup and another one being that of liquid being delivered 'onto' the cup from the mesh !? Am I getting this right, or am I missing something!?
III. Oh, and last but not least: Will the 357s I purchased yesterday include the new fixing to the coil you mention you have now introduced (coil being carefully arranged so it won't be that tight...) !?
Oh, oh oh... Oh; One more:
IV. When you mentioned a while back that we should not take number of drops into consideration but rather follow this pattern:
Drip until gurgling when inhaling, and from that point on 2/3 drops at a time...
The "pump" you mentioned, as the moment when you should drip until gurgling effect, as when priming, is to be, possibly matching the beginning of every "vape session", so to speak !?
Just to make sure.
Thanks.
II. I really appreciate your description to the Venturi Effect as produced in an HH. One more thing (I'm sorry I'm a pain...! Heee), because I am not sure...
Is the "deposit" just the ss mesh sorrounding the coil, or is there another one down... !? I guess it is the former, but I am not sure...
And also: How many wicking "channels" are there !? Two !? One into the wicking 'from inside' the ceramic cup and another one being that of liquid being delivered 'onto' the cup from the mesh !? Am I getting this right, or am I missing something!?
III. Oh, and last but not least: Will the 357s I purchased yesterday include the new fixing to the coil you mention you have now introduced (coil being carefully arranged so it won't be that tight...) !?
Oh, oh oh... Oh; One more:
IV. When you mentioned a while back that we should not take number of drops into consideration but rather follow this pattern:
Drip until gurgling when inhaling, and from that point on 2/3 drops at a time...
The "pump" you mentioned, as the moment when you should drip until gurgling effect, as when priming, is to be, possibly matching the beginning of every "vape session", so to speak !?
Just to make sure.
Thanks.
These are good questions!
The standard PG/VG is no different than a regular 357 but we put the option up there in case anyone wanted to gamble on the wait between normal availability and the custom build time. The reason its a bit more money Is the priority on custom orders, I usually stay after hours to build the customs and get them out to folks asap.
Yup there is also some ss wool under the coil cup.
Yes 2 channels, one that surrounds the cup with juice and keeps the actual "wick" in the coil wet and another under that uses the venturi to "pump" juice with air onto the center of the coil and this is what the crackling gurgle sound is. its getting the ratio of air to juice to be correct that is the tough part and my only secret is how i manipulate the filler to "fine tune" the atomizer.
I dont believe the spaced coils are in the mix yet.....the batch that goes up tonight...IF it goes up tonight will include that adjustment. I am honestly constantly tweaking the design and testing to try and up performance. So I actually really like when people send me an atty and explain the problem they are having so I can try to prevent it and make it perform better.
Yes try to listen and feel out the atomizer and "learn" it, depending on the juice, it will act a little different.
The standard PG/VG is no different than a regular 357 but we put the option up there in case anyone wanted to gamble on the wait between normal availability and the custom build time. The reason its a bit more money Is the priority on custom orders, I usually stay after hours to build the customs and get them out to folks asap.
Yup there is also some ss wool under the coil cup.
Yes 2 channels, one that surrounds the cup with juice and keeps the actual "wick" in the coil wet and another under that uses the venturi to "pump" juice with air onto the center of the coil and this is what the crackling gurgle sound is. its getting the ratio of air to juice to be correct that is the tough part and my only secret is how i manipulate the filler to "fine tune" the atomizer.
I dont believe the spaced coils are in the mix yet.....the batch that goes up tonight...IF it goes up tonight will include that adjustment. I am honestly constantly tweaking the design and testing to try and up performance. So I actually really like when people send me an atty and explain the problem they are having so I can try to prevent it and make it perform better.
Yes try to listen and feel out the atomizer and "learn" it, depending on the juice, it will act a little different.
Just wanted to report back on my experience so far w/ the HH 357 - both are still going strong and work every bit as good as they did the first day. No issues, have left them sit from time to time without any special care. I've used these in rotation so not all day every day but am really pleased with the performance and longevity.
Well I got my first 901 357 today and so far i'm loving it.When I went to order one they were not in stock.I did a custom order for a 3 ohm 901 in stainless and it was delivered in less than 10 days which I thought was really quick.I was a bit worried when I first started using it as it had a strange taste I can't describe.After a few minutes it went away and I still wasn't real impressed with the flavor/vapor from it.From having used other 357's and dozens of other attys I knew this was just the break in period before the true atty greatness comes.I kept feeding it juice for about 2 hours at 5 volts and then it happened from one vape to the next like it always does.The flavor came on real strong as did the vapor and it keeps getting better and better.The other thing I love about this 901 is it has a bigger hole than standard 901's so the draw is easy and smooth like a 510.Hands down I like this better than my standard or long barrel 510 357's,the flavor is just amazing.I can only hope it will last 5 months or more like my others have but i'm ordering some more just in case LOL.Great work Hanna keep it up.
I cannot wait for these to be back in stock. I have used Boge cartos for about 16 months, never could get the hang of attys. MWA turned me on to these bad boys and said I had to give it another try. Well now I'm hooked. These are the easiest attys to use and the learning curve is minimal I think. Now I want more.
Hannah, thank you and I sincerely mean that. I'm finding out that my favorite juice has much more flavor than I ever knew. Also I just thought I was getting good vapor, this thing is like a freakin chimney.
Now what to do with all these damn cartos. LOL
Hannah, thank you and I sincerely mean that. I'm finding out that my favorite juice has much more flavor than I ever knew. Also I just thought I was getting good vapor, this thing is like a freakin chimney.
Now what to do with all these damn cartos. LOL
if there's something good out there, MWA knows and has been there... he turned me on to the HH357 too, along with Keith from Hawaii.... 808 yeah!
I know, i'm spoiled; and it's a good thing... i don't hoard as much and these baby's last a decent time.
sell your carto's, your attys, but beware... you might never go back.
I know, i'm spoiled; and it's a good thing... i don't hoard as much and these baby's last a decent time.
sell your carto's, your attys, but beware... you might never go back.
I've been checking the website and it doesn't look like they ever made it up. At least I never saw any Long Barrel 510 3.0 ohm HH.357's be available (neither in black or stainless steel).
Maybe after Vapefest ?
The mail man brought me a Custom HH.357 510 Long Barrel 3.0 ohm PG/VG yesterday, so I'm good for a while. I'm still super curious about the new carefully spaced coil wrappings. Mine was ordered back a couple weeks ago, so I don't know if it has the new spacing on the coil or not...
Are you guys gonna let loose with some news at Vapefest on the heretofore hinted at "tank" product ?
Just got back from VapeBash and got to meet both Cisco and Hanna. Hanna remembered and brought me some BRAND NEW HH.357 2.5ohm V2's!!!! Vaping one it right now and it's AWESOME!!! True flavor and tons of vapor!!
It was a pleasure meeting you both and Hanna...I will be sure to let ya know more in a week or so. Thanks!!!
It was a pleasure meeting you both and Hanna...I will be sure to let ya know more in a week or so. Thanks!!!
folks, HBomb,
I have been enjoying my HH357 1.5 Ohm attys on a few different pv's, the VV's with 3.5 amp limiter at low voltages, and the regular eGo 650 mah.
I remember reading all over the place, and on the HH site to be careful for eGo type batts, regarding 1.5 LRs affecting the batts.
And I've always known to not go too high voltage on an LR because the coils are thinner than SR, HV attys.
I've put more attys out of their misery with my Provari than i can count, but i don't want to mess up with my HH attys.
I have a new Riva 1100 mah that puts out true 3.7v... that's pretty dang high for a 1.5.
What are we going up to (voltages) with the 1.5's?
HH357 LR 1.5's don't vape like a 1.5, and the vapor is pretty cool most of the time (but they DO give nice TH)... makes me want to ... nah, i better keep it safe; actually the flavor starts to taste a little off at 3.5 v and up.
I have been enjoying my HH357 1.5 Ohm attys on a few different pv's, the VV's with 3.5 amp limiter at low voltages, and the regular eGo 650 mah.
I remember reading all over the place, and on the HH site to be careful for eGo type batts, regarding 1.5 LRs affecting the batts.
And I've always known to not go too high voltage on an LR because the coils are thinner than SR, HV attys.
I've put more attys out of their misery with my Provari than i can count, but i don't want to mess up with my HH attys.
I have a new Riva 1100 mah that puts out true 3.7v... that's pretty dang high for a 1.5.
What are we going up to (voltages) with the 1.5's?
HH357 LR 1.5's don't vape like a 1.5, and the vapor is pretty cool most of the time (but they DO give nice TH)... makes me want to ... nah, i better keep it safe; actually the flavor starts to taste a little off at 3.5 v and up.
Uke I run my 1.5's anywhere from the lower 3's up to 4.2 depending on the juice and they've always done pretty darn well in that range. I also just picked up one of those Ego 18650 replaceable Batt units,, I really like this unit and the 357'S are running great on it, just thought I would throw that in there 
Uke I run my 1.5's anywhere from the lower 3's up to 4.2 depending on the juice and they've always done pretty darn well in that range. I also just picked up one of those Ego 18650 replaceable Batt units,, I really like this unit and the 357'S are running great on it, just thought I would throw that in there
I was looking at the 18650 eGo too... for folks that balk at the price of an HH357, all you got to do is get yourself an eGo batt heheh, they don't cost much, and all you need is a straight up 3.7 mod anyway.
I regularly ran my 1.5's up to 4.2 volts with no issues when trying to find sweet spots on different juices.Both would still be working for 5 months but I forgot to dial down the volts from 5.6 on my BuzzPro and popped the short versions coil.
Sigh. I really dig my Kick'd Precise+ 18650 with the 3 ohm HH.357, but I think I might have ruined the HH.357. I was out at dinner with the Precise in my pocket and all of a sudden I have a -really- hot spot in my pocket against my leg. I forgot to slide the switch over so the button couldn't actuate and the Precise had run until the Kick forced it off. I didn't pop the coil, but it went through all the available juice. The atomizer shell was really hot but the batteries in the mod didn't even break a sweat.
I'm going to try a PGA soak for the HH.357, but I'm not too hopeful that it can be saved.
I only had it a couple days, too. Argh ! At least I have backup HH.357s.
I'm going to try a PGA soak for the HH.357, but I'm not too hopeful that it can be saved.
I only had it a couple days, too. Argh ! At least I have backup HH.357s.
Follow up:
I soaked my HH.357 overnight in PGA.
I followed the cleaning instructions, dripped in 8 drops of a VG/PG mix juice (Ms T's Peanut Butter Cookie w/ Rasberry Jam) and tossed it on my Provari.
It passed the gurgle check.
The Provari says it is still 3.0 ohms (yay !)
Vaped for a few hours and now it seems to be almost back to it's previous level of awesomeness.
It could be the residual PGA, but the flavor is off just a little bit, but most importantly, there is no burnt taste at all.
The draw is also maybe 5% tighter than it was before.
All in all, I'm REALLY pleased that this atomizer stood up my accidental abuse.
I soaked my HH.357 overnight in PGA.
I followed the cleaning instructions, dripped in 8 drops of a VG/PG mix juice (Ms T's Peanut Butter Cookie w/ Rasberry Jam) and tossed it on my Provari.
It passed the gurgle check.
The Provari says it is still 3.0 ohms (yay !)
Vaped for a few hours and now it seems to be almost back to it's previous level of awesomeness.
It could be the residual PGA, but the flavor is off just a little bit, but most importantly, there is no burnt taste at all.
The draw is also maybe 5% tighter than it was before.
All in all, I'm REALLY pleased that this atomizer stood up my accidental abuse.
Please, Please, Please get these back up on the site, I need them bad! LOL Seriously, VapeFest/Bash is over and I need some 1.5s in assorted colors!
I know he has some ill ask and post up here when I know availability.
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