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ukeman

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It could have been a mistake on part of the reset of the custom page; since it now says V2 on it Hanna edited the page. Only Hanna knows. Lord knows he must have a ton of Custom orders and he is just swamped with all that hand work.
Is anyone else confused about the Custom order section offering only a choice of 100%VG or 100%PG... I usually order a blend, but now that i think about it, is the only legit reason to order a custom because you vape 100% of one or the other?
 

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Just wondering do any of you HH users have extended experience with the genesis tank systems (rebuildable atomizer)? Just wondering how something like that, properly configured compares to the HH.

Well, they are two very different things... IMO, a rebuildable atty may be perfect, performance-wise, but is just not that practical 24/7; as in there is an entire ritual to it, which I do enjoy, but it just won't work for me as "your every day 24/7 atty". Properly configured, a Genisis is God, but getting it there may translate into a downside compared to the ready-to-go factor of common atties. An HH. 357 is a 'standard non-repairable/ commercial atty' which happens to last longer, and when it comes to "regular/ non-rebuildable" atties, it certainly is king.
I could never define whether an HH or a Genisis is better, as they are entirely different, and depending on the aspect, one may rule over the other.
An HH. makes more sense for an "express" alternative, whereas a Genisis is more on the "slow-cooking-yummmy-yummy-home-made-food" side of the spectrum; hope that makes sense...

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I agree with revolver on this, but i also think comparison is def in order when it comes to the topic; is a Gen or an Ody "better"...
better should be more specific of course.... better in what aspects perhaps.

Revolver brings a good point about fact that they are in different genres... I want to point out for those that see a Genesis review done by a veteran who smiles through clouds of vapor and says "can't beat the flavor". This person knows how to make the coil right.
I've tried a few times with 3 different rebuildables and so far I can't get one to taste quite as good as the 357. all the time.
I've asked Scott (getcha 69 on youtube) to review a 357 ... he hasn't tried one as of yet, far as i know.

To me the jury is still out whether the rebuildables can match the flavor of a 357, and I'm still going to try. I also wonder if Hanna is going to make a rebuildable using his 357 theories/methods, or if that is possible.
 

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Mind you, I think Genisis by Persis (the one I own) is the best experience ever, flavor-wise; consistency-wise, and others; performance-wise in general. But that is, as ukeman points out, ONLY when -and if- you have developed your skills enough and have become a master in the art of coil-making, which can get tricky. The flavor experience, in particular, is the best out there. Nothing can beat this. However, then again, the process can be dull, at least at first, and it demands more attention.
An HH is more on the "plug-and-play" side and the flavor will always be great and "ready".

Is the Genisis flavor better IMO ? Yes; as it is a "pure pure" flavor experience which you cannot find elsewhere. But that is not "out of the box", so to speak, and only if it is perfectly tuned... And requires practice and skills.
An HH. will always deliver no matter what and there is no ritual to "tune" it; it is already "tuned". Flavor is great and consistency is outstanding compared to most commercially available atties.

The possibility of Hanna making a rebuildable HH. including the Venturi concepts and others as adapted, designed and perfected by him for his 357 into it, sure sounds interesting... !!!

OTOH, though, the Tank which may soon be released -keeping my fingers crossed- may take the 357 experience into an entire new level...

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the HH357 tank should keep Hanna busy for a while... but if he ever did a rebuildable that would be one long que for sure. It would take interest to a whole new level.
The possibility of Hanna making a rebuildable HH. including the Venturi concepts and others as adapted, designed and perfected by him for his 357 into it, sure sounds interesting... !!!

OTOH, though, the Tank which may soon be released -keeping my fingers crossed- may take the 357 experience into an entire new level...

:w00t:
 

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Just wondering do any of you HH users have extended experience with the genesis tank systems (rebuildable atomizer)? Just wondering how something like that, properly configured compares to the HH.

I think that the Genesis style atty is only thing that comes close to a Custom Magnum. I like the draw/airflow I get from a custom and a genesis style atty can´t match that. The flavor is different in these. It´s good in both, but some flavors the SS-mesh just reduces or dilutes, for example faint fruit flavors. There isn´t that kind of a problem with a Magnum, it actually shines with faint fruit flavors. Some people say that the genesis style produces more vapor but I don´t think that the Magnum is working properly when that is said. Anyway the vapor isn´t most important thing to me, the flavor is.

I use both but I prefer my FinnishSpecials and I can´t wait to get the V2-versions of those.
 

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I think that the Genesis style atty is only thing that comes close to a Custom Magnum. I like the draw/airflow I get from a custom and a genesis style atty can´t match that. The flavor is different in these. It´s good in both, but some flavors the SS-mesh just reduces or dilutes, for example faint fruit flavors. There isn´t that kind of a problem with a Magnum, it actually shines with faint fruit flavors. Some people say that the genesis style produces more vapor but I don´t think that the Magnum is working properly when that is said. Anyway the vapor isn´t most important thing to me, the flavor is.

I use both but I prefer my FinnishSpecials and I can´t wait to get the V2-versions of those.

Kailmero, what is the Magnum ? I know what the Finnish special is.

I am on my 2nd or 3rd HH 901 and this one is a pg/vg blend custom, LR 1.5, on an eGo regulated 3.3v. Just the right amount of juice gives the most rich flavorful vaporful vape .... every time; it took about a week for me to get the right take on it. I got rid of the drip shield which i put on because at first i thought the draw was too airy, but it's just right.
I really like the 510's too but 901 was my most favorite atty before i tried 357s and they still are.

One thing I am learning is that i don't need an expensive VV to enjoy the best vape possible, at least with this atty. A week ago I was convinced i needed a VV to vary the voltage as the 357 attys seemed to change and I'd vary up or down .1 to .3 volts. Not with this LR ... and i've had it for more than a week. It is so consistent.
Funny how the thinking used to be you needed a VV to get the most out of an atomizer... you weren't experiencing optimal vaping without a VV. No more.. and I've got 3 high end VV's. IMO the only thing i really need them for are conventional atomizers.

I have an Ody in drip mode, and it has wick and coil, not Gen style with mesh... I haven't gotten it to taste as good.... yet? might not happen.
 

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What i did was order a 100%Vg, as I usually use 60vg/40pg... i can try it, and if not good, i will up my VG % somehow; either buy a small bottle of 100% vg juice (Snickerdoodle in my case), or add some 100% nic juice w/ flavoring, to push it over towards the VG or PG scale i want.

I hope your 60/40 will be alright... but if you think about it, PG gives more flavor than VG... most juices used to be sold 80pg/20vg... i don't know anyone using 100% PG, but think about the flavor of mostly pg on a 357 :)
Can you reword this plz?
Lost me

I also ordered a custom 100%pg and I use 60/40 mix so will I be fine ya think???
 

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"...ah the humanity" If only Hanna would focus on a rebuildable HH357.... it would be big ... HH357

That might be next! Trying to get this tank out and keep stock up AND build customs takes up most of the time. Once the tank is out I can focus some energy on what's next for the 357...

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