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old hippy

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All my new carto's from Eric, (15) do not work with the Go-go's from cigeasy-
do work very well with the Go-go's from Eric though.
And on the above problem I wrote about the charger thing, Yes, I did file down the plastic part on all three chargers that I have. this is sooo frustrating.

Another thing, I use 100% vg in my Go carts and have no problems- do know how to clean them, but only have to clean them after refilling about 4 times. Love Boba's and Gorilla joose.
 

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Can anyone help me out here ??
My new pink Go-go just came apart !! I have had problems with the charging connections on every single Go-go I have gotten.
( I have 6 of them also). Have to fiddle with raising the battery centers on every single one to get them to work with the chargers. This morning, in trying to get my new pink Batt to match up with the charger- the top just came OFF completely. And, I was being very careful as usual.
I do not know how to solder it back together. My So is a welder, but not sure if he knows either. Or is it even possible- if so HOW?????????
Thank you for any help.
Judy

Hi Judy, I will replace it, just send it back :)

Not sure what you mean about the top, you mean the entire top portion? If so it just twists back on. If you mean the little tip that's in the center hole, it is not soldered in, it should just pop back in, but there is a rubber gap stop if memory serves, I will take a look later tonight, maybe photograph the internals.
 

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I generally do a 80/20 or 70/30 PG/VG mix myself. I find VG gives me a lot of thick mucus and clogs me up too badly. I started out about 24mg but have cut down to about 12 or even 6 on a lot of juices.

I'm glad to see this post! I have that problem on and off and it has taken me forever to pinpoint it - and even then I wasn't quite sure it was the vg, great to know. :)
 

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Hi Eric,
No- it is not your fault and I do not think you should have to replace my pink Go-go !!
It is a quality control problem that these batteries do not seat properly within the chargers.
What came apart on my pink batt, was the little central metal part that should touch the charger central part.
Hope that makes sense.

In carefully trying to raise it a "hair" so the connection would connect with the charger-it simply FELL out bringing a wire along with it.
The wire and the tiny metal part are no longer connected.
I don't know the proper name for that central metal part-please forgive me for no knowing.
Is there any way to rejoin the wire and the central metal thingy ??
I saw no sign of any solder or glue etc between the two.
 

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Eric, on closer inspection,
there does not seem to be any way that red wire , approx 3/4 inch long, was ever connected to that little metal piece that fell out !!
And there was no little o-ring or spacer either.
I always work over a paper towel on my desk, so there was no way for anything to have gotten lost.

If the batt and the charger have too much space between them, there is no charging. Period.
So one simply has to raise that tiny central part to get things to work.
All my Go-go's and chargers have the same problems, so far.

And I repeat, it is not your fault !!!!!
Don't believe it was my fault either-LOL !!
 

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I have also been using the go-go's for over 3 months now- and the charging problem has been there all along.
It is a quality control problem that is well documented-NOT Eric's fault.
Sanding down the excess plastic on the chargers and fiddling with the center post on all my go-go's normally works,
albeit with a bit of frustration.
The problem that the carto's (15 new ones) is simply that the center post is lower and will fit fine with the pink/purple batts, but too low to work with my older black batts.
But, the older black carto's have a higher center on the carto's and WILL fit on the newer colored batts.

I am not complaining here-only not smart enough about tiny little electronics, to know how to fix them.
( and I DO build my own and other peoples computers-go figure-LOL )

These beautiful colored Batteries that Eric is getting in are just NEW and the qc was not up to par yet.
Normal for most new runs of anything.
Next batch will be better, I am sure and also plan on buying a blue one and a red one when Eric gets them in.
 

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Hi Eric,
No- it is not your fault and I do not think you should have to replace my pink Go-go !!
It is a quality control problem that these Batteries do not seat properly within the chargers.
What came apart on my pink batt, was the little central metal part that should touch the charger central part.
Hope that makes sense.

In carefully trying to raise it a "hair" so the connection would connect with the charger-it simply FELL out bringing a wire along with it.
The wire and the tiny metal part are no longer connected.
I don't know the proper name for that central metal part-please forgive me for no knowing.
Is there any way to rejoin the wire and the central metal thingy ??
I saw no sign of any solder or glue etc between the two.

Judy, I know it's not either of our faults, It's QC for sure, but I sell it, I stand behind it. Maybe if it were a month or two gone by I'd have to say get a new one, but you just bought it.

I'll be happy to replace it, believe me, I am in this for you guys and gals, not just me. It's no problem, really. Besides, who knows, maybe I can fix it, the more "bad" I get back, the more I can investigate and come up with methods of fixing. That's how I figured out the loose battery issue. I got a few back and popped one open (after trial and error)

With the freight charges, I really don't make very much of anything on batteries but I do make enough to cover some returns, so the offers open to replace it

LOL, still don't have enough for a car payment yet... :)
Maybe I'll start selling 510 cartos to the masses :p
 
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The inner workings of the Go-go Battery.

Battery Dissasembled:
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The Electronics:
This circut board includes battery protection, voltage regulation and a switch circut.
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Top Casing:
This picture shows the inside of the casing of the top part (from the underside).
The center post is held with a rubber grommet, if there is no grommet on either side the battery will not work as positive and negative will be touching (not a good thing) The grommet also holds the conductor tip in place. If it pops out, then the grommet has fallen down and out somewhere. Or you have pulled it though the top and it goes to the dark place where your missing socks go. :p

Note: because of the way the center pin is made (no photo yet) the grommets also keep the insides from touching the casing and because of this, if you gently pry UP the tip like I have suggested previously there is a chance it will not fire because the angle is such that it causes the inside to touch the casing, so just be careful.

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Button:
Button on it's side, see how it deforms due to the casing, twisting this occasionally *might* make the battery work better as when it deforms it can pull slightly away from the tiny button. However, you also risk losing connecton altogether, so do as a last resort or only if you know what you are doing.

One fix would be to glue or shove a tiny particle of something (non conductive) on to the back of the button for a more solid connection, but this might require you remove the circut board from the casing (might need to desolder but this one just fell out (poor workmanship))

I have noticed on one of my batteries that I had to press deeper for it to work. I popped off the cap, put a tiny piece of cardboard shoved between the button and the black button on the circut board and it fires instantly.

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I've also noticed some other flaws, the battery connector post and the center post on the casing both have groves seemingly made for twisting, in my opinion this is a mistake, they should be flat. If a battery doesn't fire on all cartomizers a smal drop of solder *might* solve the problem giving more of a chance to create a connection, I have not tried it but I will soon.
 
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Very cool post Eric, nice to see the insides!

... now can you get it back together? Just sayin' ...even I could take it apart :p


Lol, yes, I can get it back together. :)
I've taken enough apart now, I am almost an expert.
If I can find replacement grommets that fit, I can start rebuilding them if need be.
 

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Happy to inform that the repair guide was great and I was able to fix the loose battery on one of my Go-go's.

Also wanted to confirm a few things:
The stainless carts I got from Eric work on the batteries I got from nhaler.
The carts I got from nhaler work on the stainless batteries I got from Eric.
The carts that came with my stainless kit from Eric were indeed pre-filled. (I still want that juice, eric!)
 

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Excellent pictures, Eric !!

ok- the white grommet is still where it is supposed to be on my pink batt.
The conducter tip is what fell out, with the red wire following along behind.
No connection between them. I saw no "paper-ish" grommet.
Question is - how to put this back together ??

I have never bought from nHaler-bought my 4 black go-gos from cigeasy and both chargers from them also.
Would/could there be a difference with the threading on nHalers chargers that would make the connections better ??
There is a definate difference between how high the connector post is , between my black batts and the pink and purple ones.
 

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another "huh" in the qc question !!

The purple batt WILL charge in the cigeasy chargers ( the pink one had problems with that)-but will not charge in the new "Eric" one. The pink one would not either.
All 4 cigeasy black batts have problems with the cigeasy chargers.
I sanded the plastic down on the cigeasy chargers but did not on the Eric one. .

Hmmm- why didn't I just start using the purple "Eric" batt from the beginning instead of putting it away for my backup ??
I, too, learn via back and forth experimenting /researching.

At this point, I am ready to send Eric one of my good black batts-old black cartos-pink batt-and pink carto- just to prove these things are all different. Oh and send along both chargers.
Just kidding at this point, but need someone to verify that I am not a raving idiot here.

For the record- I still have and use daily, 3 ego batts from over a year ago !!!
Am not ready to give up on the go-go's-- just need to find all the glitches and how to keep them working-LOL !!
 

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another "huh" in the qc question !!
At this point, I am ready to send Eric one of my good black batts-old black cartos-pink batt-and pink carto- just to prove these things are all different. Oh and send along both chargers.
Just kidding at this point, but need someone to verify that I am not a raving idiot here.

You aren't :laugh:

This all stems from demand. They got a higher than expected demand and had to "farm out" manufacturing between factories, retooling is the most likely culprit, no matter what you do, sometimes a retool will cause a tiny discrepancy and that is the problem. The tolerances are too small.. a design defect to begin with.

I have heard that it is being taken care of but there is a lot of stock out there now.
 

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I now have stainless batteries back in stock.
Also, Fully loaded on black and stainless cartomizers.
I only have 4 Red cartomizers left

I also have the 510 adapters coming in the morning.
510 to Go-go Cartomizer so all the modders should be happy :)
I turned them on on the website, I do not have many, get them now if you wanted them.
I will fully test them in the morning, if they do not work I will refund any purchases made overnight, but this supplier has been on the mark so we should be good.

The rest of the adapters are still enroute.

Good News:
I have sold enough wall chargers and USB cables to bring the price down by 4 dollars each, they are now $4.99 each instead of $8.99.

Bad News: I have to temporailly increase the stainless battery to 15.99 from 12.99 because I had to pay a LOT more for them as the previous supplier was out with no target date for restock.

Soon to be good news:
I am near the edge of selling enough liquids to lower the price by a dollar or so.
 
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Excellent pictures, Eric !!

ok- the white grommet is still where it is supposed to be on my pink batt.
The conducter tip is what fell out, with the red wire following along behind.
No connection between them. I saw no "paper-ish" grommet.
Question is - how to put this back together ??

I have never bought from nHaler-bought my 4 black go-gos from cigeasy and both chargers from them also.
Would/could there be a difference with the threading on nHalers chargers that would make the connections better ??
There is a definate difference between how high the connector post is , between my black batts and the pink and purple ones.

The reason that the center post came out could be that the "papperish" gromet might not have ever been there from the factory. This could also be the cause of the charging and cart fit issues. JMHO
 

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The reason that the center post came out could be that the "papperish" gromet might not have ever been there from the factory. This could also be the cause of the charging and cart fit issues. JMHO

It's possible but I am checking every battery as they go out, I started that about 3 weeks ago, so anything before that, it's certainly possible, but I haven't run across one yet. That doesn't mean I couldn't have missed it though. I am getting old. :p
 

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It's possible but I am checking every battery as they go out, I started that about 3 weeks ago, so anything before that, it's certainly possible, but I haven't run across one yet. That doesn't mean I couldn't have missed it though. I am getting old. :p

Welp that does it... If you are old, at 63 I must be ancient :(
 
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