If you're building a regulated coil the same way as a mech coil, you're doing it wrong. But anyway, the only thing you will want to switch your atty to is another DNA temperature device.
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If you're building a regulated coil the same way as a mech coil, you're doing it wrong. But anyway, the only thing you will want to switch your atty to is another DNA temperature device.
So. I'm at temco's site. The 28ga Ni200 wires have a resistance of 0.3778 ohms per ft......
You'll need to use at least a quarter of a foot (approximately) of 28ga in your build to even get there.... Jesus. Is that even possible
Seems like 30ga is the most viable option, and we should see larger diameter builds just to keep the length of the coil in check. Thoughts?
You'll need to use at least a quarter of a foot (approximately) of 28ga in your build to even get there.... Jesus. Is that even possible
Seems like 30ga is the most viable option, and we should see larger diameter builds just to keep the length of the coil in check. Thoughts?
Ehhh. Well I didn't think a build like that uses 3 inches of wire. Shrug. I'll just go back and mind my own business.
Don't worry, some things are not that intuitive. Twenty years ago, I used to design (among other things) instrumentation transformers; those often had hundreds or even thousands of wraps of copper wire in layers. At first it was surprising how many feet of wire ended up in those things. But just like our coils, you had to know in order to be able to predict the resistive losses. On top of the core losses. And (mostly) nickel cores had the lowest losses.
I saw that basil mentioned something about hot spots being hard to get rid of and it affecting the temp option of the chip? Can I even still build my nickel microcoils the same way by heating it up in regular mode and than switching to temp mode?
Can't pull the trigger on a 40 yet until I fully understand what the hack is going on lol.
Can't pull the trigger on a 40 yet until I fully understand what the hack is going on lol.
I actually had the opposite experience but I did not build on mesh. I found that my coils were less prone to hot spots... unless I had an outright kink in the wire.
Personally I would avoid heating coils to glowing if at all possible.
Personally I would avoid heating coils to glowing if at all possible.
Never mind....not even worth it...
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I apologize. I think to some degree, it's frustration at groking it completely but not actually having a device to play with yet.
I get that....and thanks....it's just we all have something to learn or at least I do....I hope I can ask without feeling embarrassed for asking. When it comes to build time, that is....
Thinking that resistance doesn't really matter on DNA40 and nickel but what if I want positive ohms? Does anyone know how to build a 1.5 nickel coil?
Not something I need to know today....but it would be nice to understand better.
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Looking at the numbers I don't think that's realistically practical
Yeah...I suspected that...but the device specs will handle up to 2 ohms temp controlled lol a slinky won't fit in my fogger.
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You'd need to use some mighty thin wire and/or make a darn big coil, which may not be practical. That's what I meant when I told people that they were doing it wrong by targeting such high resistances.
The question is, why would you want to build a 1.5 ohm nickel coil? Remember, that 1.5 ohm coil is only 1.5 ohms at room temperature. When it warms up to vaping temps, it's gonna be at 3+ ohms, maybe higher. If you want a coil that will still be "safe" if you accidentally put it on a mech, target absolute lowest resistance that would be safe on your mech, say 0.3 or something like that, knowing that its resistance won't stay that low for more than a fraction of a second when you fire it.
Ok...that makes sense now...Is the wire we are using in the coil toy? I see a lot of what looks like nickel....just can't figure out which is which.
http://coiltoy.ermeso.com/
Is increased resistance while hot a characteristic of just nickel wire or is that summarily true?
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I use that link above to figure out how many wraps of kanthal...then use a reader for ohms...sorry edited while you were responding.....you can drop down to select the type of wire....is the type of wire we need expressed in the coil toy tool?
Not knowing the physics behind this it helps me understand if I plug in the numbers.
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I apologize. I think to some degree, it's frustration at groking it completely but not actually having a device to play with yet.
Did you order one Rossum?
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Dang it. Got on temco and the 28 and 30 ga 100ft rolls will only ship in 13 weeks. Whaaaat
Kiwi...Buy some from protovapor....:thumbup:
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