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I dunno... My rdna40 asks me if I have a new atty every single time, even when I'm unscrewing an atty for a few seconds and plonking it back on. I find that to be far better.

The fact is, if your mod thinks your 0.18 ohm build is the same as the previous 0.15 build and doesn't ask if it's a new atty, that 0.03 ohm difference represents a 20% "increase" in resistance, which is not trivial at all.


ETA: went through all the interviews and the data sheet. There is absolutely no mention that the chip is "supposed to know" it's a new atty, whether explicit or implicit. The data sheet does however explicit state that you will be prompted when you attach a new or existing atomizer. The closest thing I've found to the above post is that Brandon has replied to a couple of folks that the resistance of a existing atomizer MIGHT change as it sits on the mod, and it is intelligently calibrating itself. Apart from that, I don't actually think it's accurate to say that the chip isn't supposed to ask if it's a new atomizer each time, or that it's supposed to know. Because it most certainly isn't the case with my rDNA40, and neither is it supported by any documentation/statements from
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.03 is a big deal even more so if your atty was .07 like my first dual big fogger build.

Every time I have truly put on a new atty on either the xpv or my box mod, the 40 has asked me, even when one that was .09 and one that was .07.

On my box mod, I have taken off the atty, pressed fire and put the same atty back on and the 40 never asked me. I have let it sit for a long time so that you press fire and it wakes up, or take the battery out and put the battery back in and it will not ask.

It doesn't always ask. And I cannot say that is a problem as it has vaped perfectly and has always detected a new atty.

With that said, I can take a cold BIG Fogger off, screw the center pin slightly, even dried it out once and polished it, put it back on and I get asked. Since it was cold ie I hadn't vaped it for a long while I told it new. Just did it and it went from .13 to .12 and literally I did nothing but unscrew it and screw it back on.

With that said, I can't say the vape was different. I'm sure it was, but at 30W I couldn't tell the difference.

Every funky thing I have seen going on with the XPV or my box mod has been due to the atty post screws or 510 not making good consistent contact.

.01 ohms difference in a 510 connection made it ask me.

With that said, I have on occasion knocked over my box mod and had funky things happen...weak taste, atty not sustaining the power it used to because the battery moved and wasn't making good connection with the contacts. So I take it apart reset the battery so its making great contact again and voila back to yummy paradise. And that was without the weak battery message. Which BTW I got today on a long drive, but my first clue was the weak vape. It went into that soft limit get you home mode. Instead I pulled off and swapped the battery LOL!

When I had a loose center post in the BIG Fogger, the 40 went out of TP mode. I immediately and first noticed the burnt juice taste, looked and saw it was displaying voltage. First time this happened I thought oh no I blew the chip! But no it was just flakey connections in the atty. I have also had this happen with contact coil builds.

Then when I correct the problem, loose post screw, bad 510, contact coil manipulation, whatever, press and hold the fire button for a three count it goes back into TP mode and I'm back to vape paradise.

Now with all that said, there have been times that I really wanted to press a button to make it ask me if it was new, troubleshooting etc... The truly only sure fire (pun intended) method I have found to make it ask is literally screw on a different atty and tap fire.

And based on vape performance I have been experiencing, I think that's just fine.
 

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I'm glad I ordered an XPV, and not the vapor flask.

Of course, forums attract those having issues, and the vapor flask is probably moving more units, so I suspect that the situation reflects this. It may be the XPV isn't any less problem-prone than other mods, very possible the results here are based on volume.

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I've figured out a surefire way to force the dna40 to recognize a new coil or force it to recognize changes. This has become important to me as a play with the build on the same atty. I've realized that the chip tracks hot and cold resistance of the given atty. Start with cold coils before you proceed.

1)Unscrew the atty and press the fire button. You should have a "check atomizer" message.
2)Ensure that the atomizer or coil(s) are at room temp if you didn't catch this already. You can blow on the coils to speed this up if the given atty can expose the coil area easily.
3)Hold the fire button down and gently screw the atomizer in until you have a "new coil up" message. Press the up button to accept this. There should be a false resistance due to the poor contact.
4)Unscrew the atty.
5)Press fire button and you will have "check atomizer" message.
6)Snug down the atty.
7)Press the fire button. You should have a "new coil up" message. Press the up button to accept this. You should have a fairly accurate resistance displayed and a reset at this point.
 

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Bassnorma would be able to. She has both xpv and flask :)


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For those interested in if the Hana Modz DNA 40 has a floating or spring loaded 510 pin, the answer is yes. I can push it down, and it springs back. I've had mine for almost 3 weeks now without issue. Love the tc feature.:D

That would be great if it did. I've not seen this advertised by Hana and it has been an issue with Hana owners to date as far as I know. You may have one that does have a spring loaded connecter as it can be modified. Where did you order it from?
 

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For those interested in if the Hana Modz DNA 40 has a floating or spring loaded 510 pin, the answer is yes. I can push it down, and it springs back. I've had mine for almost 3 weeks now without issue. Love the tc feature.:D
If yours does it's either had the connector changed by a third party, Hana made a great upgrade but forgot to tell anyone or those mushrooms you ate have kicked in! Seriously, I'd love to see a video of it in action if possible. I've spoken with dozens of people and none have this feature.
 
Have any of you guys that sent your DNA 40 in for the RMA heard anything from Evolv? I sent my Flask via USPS last week, it got to their PO Box Saturday where it still says it's ready to pick up. I have emailed them twice, once today and once yesterday to see if they picked it up and how many devices are in front of mine to be fixed. I'm just wondering if they plan on updating us at all or if we're just in the dark until one day our device is back in our mailbox.
 

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That would be great if it did. I've not seen this advertised by Hana and it has been an issue with Hana owners to date as far as I know. You may have one that does have a spring loaded connecter as it can be modified. Where did you order it from?

I bought mine at VaporCon from a Chicago based vendor...hotvapes.com, (775-HotVape) The owners name is Tim Roche and they are listed on Hana Modz website as authorized distributor.

If yours does it's either had the connector changed by a third party, Hana made a great upgrade but forgot to tell anyone or those mushrooms you ate have kicked in! Seriously, I'd love to see a video of it in action if possible. I've spoken with dozens of people and none have this feature.

I doubt it's third party upgrade as the vendor I bought from just received his batch direct from Hana just before the show. I agree this would be a great selling point for Hana, and not keep the upgrade a secret. I suppose a quick call to Hana could verify this. Hana ph# 630-414-6608
The shrooms wore off many years ago, and I don't do videos, sorry.:p
 

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Have any of you guys that sent your DNA 40 in for the RMA heard anything from Evolv? I sent my Flask via USPS last week, it got to their PO Box Saturday where it still says it's ready to pick up. I have emailed them twice, once today and once yesterday to see if they picked it up and how many devices are in front of mine to be fixed. I'm just wondering if they plan on updating us at all or if we're just in the dark until one day our device is back in our mailbox.

From my experience you won't hear from Evolv. It will be shipped back with no notification to you. Mine when returned did not indicate what had been done to it.
 

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Have any of you guys that sent your DNA 40 in for the RMA heard anything from Evolv? I sent my Flask via USPS last week, it got to their PO Box Saturday where it still says it's ready to pick up. I have emailed them twice, once today and once yesterday to see if they picked it up and how many devices are in front of mine to be fixed. I'm just wondering if they plan on updating us at all or if we're just in the dark until one day our device is back in our mailbox.

did VFlask folks tell you to RMA to Evolv? that's interesting.

When my Flask didn't wake up one morning with batts at 4v, I freaked and started emailing both Vapinart and then Vapor Flask.
I got replies from both, but by then I had put a fresh set of batts in and the FLask40 woke up...

That was the single glitch I've had and other than that its been a dream. But curious if they were going to tell me to send it to them or to Evolv...?

btw, if Protovapor is testing their units more thoroughly since they put the optional parts together to order, it may be why I haven't seem any bad reviews?
My order was made on 10/31 for my second dna40 unit, but its still processing. If they are testing it, I don't care how long it takes; thats for sure.
 

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    From my experience you won't hear from Evolv. It will be shipped back with no notification to you. Mine when returned did not indicate what had been done to it.

    Was it a new chip they send back? Or was it pristine with now soldering before you send it to them?

    It's possibly they just need to update the firmware and send it back.
     
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    I bought mine at VaporCon from a Chicago based vendor...hotvapes.com, (775-HotVape) The owners name is Tim Roche and they are listed on Hana Modz website as authorized distributor.



    I doubt it's third party upgrade as the vendor I bought from just received his batch direct from Hana just before the show. I agree this would be a great selling point for Hana, and not keep the upgrade a secret. I suppose a quick call to Hana could verify this. Hana ph# 630-414-6608
    The shrooms wore off many years ago, and I don't do videos, sorry.:p

    While the effects wore off years ago, it COULD be a flashback! so to clarify, you're saying that when you push down on the 510 pin it depresses and then springs back to it's original position? I am amazed! Could you take a nice close up of your connector for me? Thanks.
     

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    While the effects wore off years ago, it COULD be a flashback! so to clarify, you're saying that when you push down on the 510 pin it depresses and then springs back to it's original position? I am amazed! Could you take a nice close up of your connector for me? Thanks.

    Yes, push down, spring back. Never had a FDV 510 connector in my possession, but from web pics I've seen, it looks to me to be the same, or at least similar style. Maybe lol...

     

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    Have any of you guys that sent your DNA 40 in for the RMA heard anything from Evolv? I sent my Flask via USPS last week, it got to their PO Box Saturday where it still says it's ready to pick up. I have emailed them twice, once today and once yesterday to see if they picked it up and how many devices are in front of mine to be fixed. I'm just wondering if they plan on updating us at all or if we're just in the dark until one day our device is back in our mailbox.

    I sent a dna40 board back to them on Monday, supposed to be there tomorrow. I hope they don't jack around with repairing/programming it and just send me a new board .
     

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    Yes, push down, spring back. Never had a FDV 510 connector in my possession, but from web pics I've seen, it looks to me to be the same, or at least similar style. Maybe lol...

    That looks almost exactly like a 14mm VariTube 510 connector except it has a black bushing.
     
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