Official ProVari 3 Thread - P3 *PART 2*

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JohnD0406

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I am confused. We all know that this is not a new thing, but still ... What is the relationship between ohms and watts? Here's what I'm trying to understand, because that may have been the wrong question. Kangar recommends somewhere around 20-30 watts for their .5 ohm coil. I'm vaping a .5 coil (which my P3 says is really .58) at 14.8 watts (2.9 v) and it produces a lovely vape. I read that the Nauti 1.6 coil should be vaped at about 8-10 watts. Why? What's the relationship, and why those parameters?

You wanted clarification? I'm the wrong person to ask - I tell the truth, which tends to be a LOT more complex than you ever imagined! So, I'll try to make this make sense.

First, everyone discusses what wattage they vape at. That's a completely meaningless statistic, just like it is in the audio world. Airflow is very important, and why you can vape one build at 200W without burning, but you can vape another build at 10W and burn it.

What it comes down to is HEAT FLUX, notated in W/mm². A 32-gauge wire with 1 wrap at 10W will get a whole lot hotter than 10 wraps at the same power, because the power is spread out over a larger surface area. Same thing happens with thicker gauge wire at the same power. More wraps increases resistance, requiring more power. Thicker gauge wire decreases resistance, requiring more power. This also directly affects how long it takes for the coil to reach optimum temperature, which is where features like ProVape's BOOST come in handy - helps heat up the coil quicker.

So, that's why manufacturers recommend different powers for their coils, but that's just a ballpark, as they don't know how much airflow you'll be using. Too much and you get weak flavor and cool vape; not enough and you get burnt/dry hits.

I hope that's clear as mud, otherwise I'll need to go off the deep end and really get technical! :)
 

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After many hours of banging my head against the wall (Concrete) I have now got a hole in the wall and a decision. On the Radius Or another P3.

1. I never use over 15 Watts
2. Box mods feel too much like a pack of cigs in my hand.

So it’s going to be a P3.

Back to the wall to decide if it will be:
  1. Ice finish
  2. TI
HELP I’m getting a headache and another hole in the wall.

It'll be Ti...
 

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VERY well described, JUMA. And 100% true. It's freaky.

Moon gravity.

I couldn't get past running the numbers before I bought that first Ti Mini.

It didn't seem worth it just by looking at the weight difference.

What kicked it over the edge for me was the P3 top cap.

Course, once I had it in hand, I immediately went and ordered a second one: at full price.

Worth Every Penny.
 

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I may very well end up with a Ti P3 before a Radius myself. I am usually 7-11 watts, and that range is accommodated very nicely with the energy in an 18350 cell, so for me, the Ti P3 would be more compact, and probably lighter than the Radius. Blast you for putting this line of thinking into my head! But Yes, Of all my ProVari's, the Ti versions are over the top, my favorites.

I agree.

Where the Radius will really come into its own is as a travel mod.

Think about it.

Radius. Juice. Charging cable.

Good to go.
 

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I agree.

Where the Radius will come into its own is as a travel mod.

Think about it.

Radius. Juice. Charging cable.

Good to go.
That right there is the crux of my dilemma. We do travel, and one of the most appealing aspects of the Radius is the onboard charger and projected use time of the 18650, especially in the range that I would be drawing power from it. To be able to just pack the mod, charge cable, and power cube (multi device compatible) would make things a whole lot more convenient.
 

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The other thing about the Radius as a travel mod: it presents a familiar form factor to TSA.

Making a joke about the stacked battery option for the Mini SX in the Radius thread reminded me of it.

Take the atomizer off it and what do you have?

Something that looks like any other type of consumer electronics.

It's a familiar form factor, self-contained power source, just another hunk of plastic and metal with a computer chip inside, nothing out of the ordinary.

No extra battery boxes or any of that hoo ha.

Sure, they will know it's an eCigarette but still, on an unconcious level, it will be something they can get their heads around.
 

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The other thing about the Radius as a travel mod: it presents a familiar form factor to TSA.

Making a joke about the stacked battery option for the Mini SX in the Radius thread reminded me of it.

Take the atomizer off it and what do you have?

Something that looks like any other type of consumer electronics.

It's a familiar form factor, self-contained power source, just another hunk of plastic and metal with a computer chip inside, nothing out of the ordinary.

No extra battery boxes or any of that hoo ha.

Sure, they will know it's an eCigarette but still, on an unconcious level, it will be something they can get their heads around.
You could tell em, if they ask, that is a charger for your phone/tablet :)
 

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I'm guessing not ENUF Mojitos here, or stronger specs needed, but I do not see the Mistress of Mischief, Mirth & Mayhem and the Master of Mood-Swings, Squire to that Dame whatshername.

And where's the Reo table? I wanna dance.



(brilliant, Ms. Celot. love it!)

Futthewuck????"??? Good katch, Kat.

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And Reonauts - hide your tables! Kat's gonna dance on them if not, and she's been known to... (how do I put this?).... "Stumble".



YeeeeeeeeOUCH! That was a bad one!!!!!

Here's another old but infamous one of me doing me bestest routine. Sorry there is no music. You shall just have to sing to yourselves.


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It's Radius day... SO dead in here...

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Oh, and Engineer John? Your 'splanation was not quite technical enuf for me. Go on.......

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More wraps increases resistance, requiring more power. Thicker gauge wire decreases resistance, requiring more power.

I hope that's clear as mud, otherwise I'll need to go off the deep end and really get technical! :)

my brain splowded.
 

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After many hours of banging my head against the wall (Concrete) I have now got a hole in the wall and a decision. On the Radius Or another P3.

1. I never use over 15 Watts
2. Box mods feel too much like a pack of cigs in my hand.

So it’s going to be a P3.

Back to the wall to decide if it will be:
  1. Ice finish
  2. TI
HELP I’m getting a headache and another hole in the wall.
Actually the Satin-SS one is breathtakingly beautiful.


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