Official ProVari 3 Thread - P3

[NicoHolic]

Yes, I have four of the 1100s, and four of the 1200s....all purchased from RTD and all about the same cycles (I don't keep track but rotate through). My P3s Iq likes the new style, only diff I see is the covering and a slightly larger nipple area. Hard to show in pics...

Looks like a much flatter contact area on the new ones, at least to me.

 

[Bronze]

Perfect, about the same amount of time it takes me to eat a large pizza.

This would explain why Robin is prettier than us.

 

[Mtek]

Looks like a much flatter contact area on the new ones, at least to me.

Yes, same height but flatter and wider to my eye. More noticeable in-hand as I can tell from grabbing them off the counter and just seeing the tops easily.

 

[NicoHolic]

...So maybe the battery provides the same life in both the P3 and her old Provaris but the meter just wonks out with the older batteries. Perhaps much more sensitivity in the P3 versus the older ones. Might not like mid-age to older batteries from a metering standpoint.

I don't know if the P2's just measured (and based cut-off) on just battery voltage. From what I'm reading in the manual, the P3 is much more complicated than that. It states remaining battery life will change with power setting (and I suspect IQ as well).

IQ was implemented because of the amp and power boost. ProVape seems very concerned about operation in the 15-20W and up to 5.5A range and they tell you that's where IQ matters most.

 

[NicoHolic]

Yes, same height but flatter and wider to my eye. More noticeable in-hand as I can tell from grabbing them off the counter and just seeing the tops easily.

Possibly twice as much contact area. (increases by the square of the radius/diameter increase of the flat area)

 

[Bronze]

I don't know if the P2's just measured (and based cut-off) on just battery voltage. From what I'm reading in the manual, the P3 is much more complicated than that. It states remaining battery life will change with power setting (and I suspect IQ as well).

IQ was implemented because of the amp and power boost. ProVape seems very concerned about operation in the 15-20W and up to 5.5A range and they tell you that's where IQ matters most.

So what I said earlier? The P3 is just more .... in the name of safety?

 

[NicoHolic]

So what I said earlier? The P3 is just more .... in the name of safety?

Yep. If I hadn't had these three almost new 18650s, I'd have bought three new AW IMR 2200's for the P3. I still may get some new 18350s from RTD.

 

[Bronze]

Yep. If I hadn't had these three almost new 18650s, I'd have bought three new AW IMR 2200's for the P3. I still may get some new 18350s from RTD.

I've never used those puny 18350's. Always 18490's and 18650's.

 

[NicoHolic]

Let me add this… batteries that have been used in a mech, even at 0.5Ω, have been relatively babied. As voltage went down, so did current drawn. Batteries that have been used in a regulated mod have been absolutely brutalized--the weaker the battery, the harder it's worked, especially if it's been taken down to 0 where the mech battery is usually replaced at 50% or higher. I wouldn't consider well used batteries from a P2 for use in a P3. YMMV.

 

[Bronze]

Let me add this… batteries that have been used in a mech, even at 0.5Ω, have been relatively babied. As voltage went down, so did current drawn. Batteries that have been used in a regulated mod have been absolutely brutalized--the weaker the battery, the harder it's worked, especially if it's been taken down to 0 where the mech battery is usually replaced at 50% or higher. I wouldn't consider well used batteries from a P2 for use in a P3. YMMV.

I would think that depends on the person. I switch my batteries at 50% on a mech. Some might drain the damn things and kill them quicker. And in a decent regulated mod it wont let you drain it down to zero.

 

[DPLongo22]

I'm getting anxiety reading all the posts about the different IQ readings.

I'm sorry, but I am. I think Robin had the best idea; optional "IQ OFF".

 

[Bronze]

I'm getting anxiety reading all the posts about the different IQ readings.

I'm sorry, but I am. I think Robin had the best idea; optional "IQ OFF".

Well yes, kinda. But Robin's problem is her battery life sucks according to her P3 battery meter. That's why we're delving into the IQ to see if we can get some clues. Sadly, we're all going through this for the first time so coming up with answers is not so easy.

 

[NicoHolic]

I would think that depends on the person. I switch my batteries at 50% on a mech. Some might drain the damn things and kill them quicker. And in a decent regulated mod it wont let you drain it down to zero.

I didn't mean 0 volts… I meant the mod's "0".

 

[NicoHolic]

Well yes, kinda. But Robin's problem is her battery life sucks according to her P3 battery meter. That's why we're delving into the IQ to see if we can get some clues. Sadly, we're all going through this for the first time so coming up with answers is not so easy.

I think 360 is letting us try to figure this all out by ourselves before weighing in.

 

[Bronze]

I didn't mean 0 volts… I meant the mod's "0".

I see. But it was always my understanding that the P2's shut down the mod before entering the "kill" level of the battery. That said, I believe that was at about 3.3 volts. I know I'd change my mech battery at about 3.7ish volts. Does a 0.4 volts difference render that much brutality? I'm not a battery expert so I don't know.

 

[Robino1]

Perfect, about the same amount of time it takes me to eat a large pizza.

And I just want to die right now. Pizza would have been the better loved option but my waist line says the elliptical was the better one. Ugh, I'm wiped out!

Well, it suggests the more charge cycles the less your IQ is. Stands to reason. Seems the older Robin's batteries are the lower the IQ as well. But again, she is noticing a radical difference in vape time on the P3 versus her old Provaris using the same battery. Well, maybe not. If she pulls the battery out of the P3 and reinstalls it she gets more life from it. So maybe the battery provides the same life in both the P3 and her old Provaris but the meter just wonks out with the older batteries. Perhaps much more sensitivity in the P3 versus the older ones. Might not like mid-age to older batteries from a metering standpoint.

Makes sense. Two of the 18650 batteries were bought after moving here. Gotta be prepared in case of a hurricane and loss of power for any length of time.

Let me add this… batteries that have been used in a mech, even at 0.5Ω, have been relatively babied. As voltage went down, so did current drawn. Batteries that have been used in a regulated mod have been absolutely brutalized--the weaker the battery, the harder it's worked, especially if it's been taken down to 0 where the mech battery is usually replaced at 50% or higher. I wouldn't consider well used batteries from a P2 for use in a P3. YMMV.

I think I may spring for a couple of new batteries. Better to have too many than not enough

I'm getting anxiety reading all the posts about the different IQ readings.

I'm sorry, but I am. I think Robin had the best idea; optional "IQ OFF".

I like the idea of the IQ but ....

I guess it is good to know about the batteries. I Kind of like knowing when my batteries are getting to the end of its life cycle.

 

[NicoHolic]

Version 37 will come out in two releases: 37V for vaper and 37G for geek. IQ only in the latter.

 

[Bronze]

I think 360 is letting us try to figure this all out by ourselves before weighing in.

Time for 360 to put down the popcorn and cherry coke and jump in to save us from ourselves. He's probably laughing too hard at us to find the table.

 

[Robino1]

Version 37 will come out in two releases: 37V for vaper and 37G for geek. IQ only in the latter.

I'll take the 37V and let you all have the Geek one

Time for 360 to put down the popcorn and cherry coke and jump in to save us from ourselves. He's probably laughing too hard at us to find the table.

No doubt! I would be if I had the knowledge and watching us bumbling through this

 

[Bronze]

And I just want to die right now. Pizza would have been the better loved option but my waist line says the elliptical was the better one. Ugh, I'm wiped out!



Makes sense. Two of the 18650 batteries were bought after moving here. Gotta be prepared in case of a hurricane and loss of power for any length of time.



I think I may spring for a couple of new batteries. Better to have too many than not enough



I like the idea of the IQ but ....

I guess it is good to know about the batteries. I Kind of like knowing when my batteries are getting to the end of its life cycle.

And those batteries may very well be at the end of their lives for the P3 and not the old Provaris. Why? As Nic said (I think it was Nic), the Provari will not let you operate in the 15 - 20 watt range when your IQ goes down to a certain level. Could this be in the name of safety? Possibly. Provari is ultra-.... about safety so perhaps it's possible the P3 will tell you your battery is kaput sooner than your older Provaris. The 20 watt capacity (versus the 15 watt capacity of your old Provaris) enters a new risk level that Provari doesn't want to engage in. Perhaps...just thinking out loud here.