Official ProVari 3 Thread - P3
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It's true, it is nice that Pro Vape is involved in the forums and posts real updates regarding their products. This question is for Pro Vape or any ProVari P3 beta testers.....
What batteries are you using in your P3?
I was using red AW IMR batteries but have switched to purple Efest. Pro Vape recommends AW batteries on their site but they caused by P3 to have a low IQ rating (Input Quality) 65 or below. Most of the time it read 59 Poor. 61 and above is safe for use. With the purple Efest batteries it reading 82 Great Input Quality. The battery swap seems to work better.
Strange that you have had that experience...
All I use are AW IMR reds, and my IQ is always high. I DID notice that it goes down as my battery drains, but that's to be expected.
The IQ takes more than just the battery into account...it is an overall rating of the device itself...so one area of bad electrical connectivity can bring it down...
One rotten apple spoils the whole bunch!
All I use are AW IMR reds, and my IQ is always high. I DID notice that it goes down as my battery drains, but that's to be expected.
The IQ takes more than just the battery into account...it is an overall rating of the device itself...so one area of bad electrical connectivity can bring it down...
One rotten apple spoils the whole bunch!
I've been wondering about the IQ feature a bit. People have posted having a battery read low, pulling it out, then having it read high.
I'm assuming this feature resets and then reads the battery from scratch when it is reinserted.
It'd be nice to have a bit more info on how IQ works. Super cool feature.
I'm assuming this feature resets and then reads the battery from scratch when it is reinserted.
It'd be nice to have a bit more info on how IQ works. Super cool feature.
I've been wondering if this scenario isn't more of... the batteries are fine to begin with, and unscrewing/rescrewing the cap kinda cleans the threads. It's my understanding that dirty threads also affect the IQ.
Yeah, it does seem to be people inadvertently changing something and then getting a different reading.
The IQ also takes the coil into account...and being that coils tend to fluctuate in resistance, as they age...this can change the IQ also.
I'm using a 1-year-old AW 18650 right now, which is down to 28%, and the IQ is 79 "good". AW is high quality - Efest, Sony, etc. are really meant for mechanicals due to their high amp rating, though they'll work fine in the P3 - just a bit of overkill in a device with a 5A limit.
PS - I just took the battery out and checked the IQ again - now it's reading 77. Pretty much the same.
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Yeah I don't know why anyone would use anything other than an AW battery in a Provari...any version.
Provape basically designs everything on that battery. To use another battery just SEEMS (stressing the word "seems", to indicate that this is my OPINION) ignorant. It won't do anything for you...
For those that would argue price, yes I know AW batteries aren't the cheapest (in terms of affordability)...but my local shop has what seems to be a fairly standard retail mark up on things, and the AW's are only $1.00/ea more than the eFest reds...they don't sell the purple eFest or any green batteries...
EDIT: Someone is gonna say "...a higher mAh rating will last longer, therefore it WILL do something for you in a Provari..."
But my point still stands that the AW is the recommended battery, and with as high as Provape's standards are, I don't see why anyone would go against that.
You certainly wouldn't use a lower grade fuel, than what your vehicle's manufacturer recommends.
Provape basically designs everything on that battery. To use another battery just SEEMS (stressing the word "seems", to indicate that this is my OPINION) ignorant. It won't do anything for you...
For those that would argue price, yes I know AW batteries aren't the cheapest (in terms of affordability)...but my local shop has what seems to be a fairly standard retail mark up on things, and the AW's are only $1.00/ea more than the eFest reds...they don't sell the purple eFest or any green batteries...
EDIT: Someone is gonna say "...a higher mAh rating will last longer, therefore it WILL do something for you in a Provari..."
But my point still stands that the AW is the recommended battery, and with as high as Provape's standards are, I don't see why anyone would go against that.
You certainly wouldn't use a lower grade fuel, than what your vehicle's manufacturer recommends.
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It's quite possible I got a bad set of AW IMR 18350 batteries. I purchased them from a local B&M shop, which my friend owns. The are authentic AW batteries. They obviously weren't totally dead batteries because they read 60-65 on IQ meter and it seemed like it was vaping ok. I'm glad the AWs are working for you, I will give them another try. Pro Vape does recommend the AW batteries. I'm just glad with the new purple Efest I installed my IQ# 85 (GREAT). With my old batteries IQ#65 (OK) was my highest since I started Beta testing my P3.
Provape recommends the AW line because of their "consistency". How do I know this, anecdotal information. I had a V2.5 that wouldn't power up with some of my IMR 18650 button top cells, ( EH branded). I sent the unit to Provape with one of the cells, and they modified the board by sanding it to allow connectivity. A notation on my work order stated that the reason AW cell are recommended is for many reasons, one of them being button height consistency. A battery is just a pool of energy with a capacity to deliver it at a certain rate and volume, nothing more, nothing less. One of the only reasons I am interested in the P3 is it's GREATLY increased ability to use available cells. Availability being a major concern. ( I am talking down the road a ways here). The ability to power up with flat tops is a huge plus, no matter who made them, as long as the specs are up to the task...
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You. I like your style.
Battery manufacturing consistency is one of the top reasons that battery technology hasn't advanced very fast.
I wish someone could invent a battery that would allow 18650 life from an 18350 sized cell!!!
STEALTH MODE FOR ALL!!!
Yeah I plan on using my VTC 5's in the P3, and AW IMR when I'm not in 18650 mode. Just picked up an AW 18350 from avidvapors along with a DX top filling cap for the Kayfun as well as a glass kit for the authentic kayfun that's showing up tomorrow. I've gotta spend some time with that thing on my cana modz and get that kayfun running flawlessly for the P3, otherwise I'll just go back to my Reo like I always do lol
That would be great! I've used 18500's my entire vaping career, so the AW's are really the ONLY great option with the Provari. I can get a whole day out of an 18500, so it's the perfect balance between battery life and size. I keep hearing about these VTC4/5's. but I don't want to go up to that size, and there are no 18500 versions of those. I know everyone says, "it's only 15mm difference", but it's quite a noticeable difference! I don't even like the way seemingly every new RTA feels the need to hold an entire bottle of liquid.
I see my typo now
I meant 18650 ... nonetheless, I have two of the clear, thin, spacer rings for a ProVari V1, for when folks were using protected ICR 18650 cells in them
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I see my typo now
Sorry? Wasn't trying to point out any typo...didn't even notice one!
Many people are saying that the VTC batteries can now be used in the P3. But in the videos I've seen there is a warning label that comes with the P3 beta which states that only "AW IMR RED" batteries should be used. Is this the case only for beta versions or will it be the same for the release version? Hopefully Provape can clear this up.
The P3 accepts flat top and button top batteries alike. All previous versions only accept button top batteries.
The "warning" that comes with EVERY Provari is simply a strong suggestion/recommendation that you should use AW batteries.
Try stretching out your spring a little. This will increase the contact to the battery and improve the IQ value. Like you mentioned, since the IQ is checking not only the battery, it can also go down if you don't have good contact on the bottom of the battery from your spring.
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